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JMc#5
17 Nov 2010, 15:56
Test


G. Smith (SA)
V. Sehwag (IND)
G. Gambhir (IND)
S. Tendulker (IND)
M. Jayawardene (SL)
J. Kallis (SA)
K. Sangakkara (SL)
D. Steyn (SA)
H. Singh (IND)
Z. Khan (IND)
B. Hilfenhaus (AUS)

One Day

V. Sehwag (IND)
C. Gayle (WI)
T. Dilshan (SL)
K. Sangakkara (SL)
AB. DeVilliers (SA)
C. White (AUS)
S. Al-Hasan (BAN)
D. Vettori (NZ)
M. Johnson (AUS)
D. Steyn (SA)
S. Malinga (SL)


A couple of very handy sides, with not too many Aussies included.

Would be happy for Johnson to be replaced in the one-day line-up on current form, however think he's still up there, just not consistent enough for Test cricket... at his best could replace Zaheer in the test team.

I initially had Dhoni in the one-day team as well, however went with Al-Hasan as the all-rounder. Could understand people including someone else here but his form has been excellent of late.

Also no poms! Swann would be unlucky to miss out on the test team but Singh is my man... Vettori is a certainty for the one-day spinners spot...

Thoughts???

Escobar123
17 Nov 2010, 16:17
No way is Singh in front of Swann

Kim Hagdorn
17 Nov 2010, 16:19
Watson should be in the Test side somewhere.

stmookeyj
17 Nov 2010, 19:48
If you do it by the numbers (assuming you have 5 bats, 1 AR, 1 keeper and 4 bowlers), the teams would be.....


TEST

V.Sehwag (IND) (1228 runs @ 68, 11 tests/20 innings)
G.C.Smith (RSA) (853 runs @ 60, 8/14)
S.R.Tendukar (IND) (1335 runs @ 83, 11/18)
J.H.Kallis (RSA) [AR] (855 runs @77, 8 wickets @ 45, 8/14)
H.M.Amla (RSA) (994 runs @ 90, 8/14)
I.J.L.Trott (ENG) (880 runs @ 55, 10/18)
M.J.Prior (ENG) [WK] (506 runs @ 42, 38 Catches/2 Stumpings, 10/18)
Z.Khan (IND) (41 wickets @ 22, 8 Matches)
G.P.Swann (ENG) (51 Wickets @ 23, 10 Matches)
J.M.Anderson (ENG) (40 Wickets @ 20, 10 Matches)
D.W.Steyn (RSA) (41 Wickets @ 21, 8 Matches)
=========================================================
Tamin Iqbal (BAN) (837 runs @ 59, 7/14)


ODI

A.J.Strauss (ENG) (806 runs @ 57, SR: 95, 14 matches)
T.M.Dilshan (SL) (921 runs @ 51, SR: 98, 20 matches)
AB De Villiers (RSA) [WK] (964 runs @ 80, SR: 102, 21 catches/1 stumping, 16 matches)
H.M.Amla (RSA) (1058 runs @ 75, SR: 104, 16 matches)
M.E.K.Hussey (AUS) (825 runs @ 45, SR: 91, 24 matches/23 innings)
C.L.White (AUS) (848 runs @ 44, SR: 84, 25 matches/23 innings)
Shakib Al Hasan (BAN) [AR] (631 runs @ 30, SR: 79; 37 wickets @ 27, ER: 4.76, 23 Matches)
S.C.J.Broad (ENG) (30 Wickets @ 24, ER: 5.21, 16 matches)
G.P.Swann (ENG) (28 wickets @ 18, ER: 4.25, 14 matches)
R.J.Harris (AUS) (40 wickets @ 15, ER: 4.63, 16 matches)
D.E.Bollinger (AUS) (28 wickets @ 23, ER: 4.36, 19 matches)
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B.R.M.Taylor (ZIM) (653 runs @ 46, SR: 80, 16 matches)

Daz
17 Nov 2010, 19:49
Not sure about Gambhir.

Stan Van Gundy
17 Nov 2010, 21:09
Test


G. Smith (SA)
V. Sehwag (IND)
G. Gambhir (IND)
S. Tendulker (IND)
M. Jayawardene (SL)
J. Kallis (SA)
K. Sangakkara (SL)
D. Steyn (SA)
H. Singh (IND)
Z. Khan (IND)
B. Hilfenhaus (AUS)

One Day

V. Sehwag (IND)
C. Gayle (WI)
T. Dilshan (SL)
K. Sangakkara (SL)
AB. DeVilliers (SA)
C. White (AUS)
S. Al-Hasan (BAN)
D. Vettori (NZ)
M. Johnson (AUS)
D. Steyn (SA)
S. Malinga (SL)


A couple of very handy sides, with not too many Aussies included.

Would be happy for Johnson to be replaced in the one-day line-up on current form, however think he's still up there, just not consistent enough for Test cricket... at his best could replace Zaheer in the test team.

I initially had Dhoni in the one-day team as well, however went with Al-Hasan as the all-rounder. Could understand people including someone else here but his form has been excellent of late.

Also no poms! Swann would be unlucky to miss out on the test team but Singh is my man... Vettori is a certainty for the one-day spinners spot...

Thoughts???

Amla should be in for Gambhir in tests, seeing as he actually bats 3 and Gambhir doesn't. And then Amla in for Dilshan in the ODI squad. I'd go for Swann over Harbajhan and wouldn't have Steyn in the ODI squad as he tends to get smashed.

wavefall21
17 Nov 2010, 21:57
Test


G. Smith (SA)
V. Sehwag (IND)
G. Gambhir (IND)
S. Tendulker (IND)
M. Jayawardene (SL)
J. Kallis (SA)
K. Sangakkara (SL)
D. Steyn (SA)
H. Singh (IND)
Z. Khan (IND)
B. Hilfenhaus (AUS)

One Day

V. Sehwag (IND)
C. Gayle (WI)
T. Dilshan (SL)
K. Sangakkara (SL)
AB. DeVilliers (SA)
C. White (AUS)
S. Al-Hasan (BAN)
D. Vettori (NZ)
M. Johnson (AUS)
D. Steyn (SA)
S. Malinga (SL)


A couple of very handy sides, with not too many Aussies included.

Would be happy for Johnson to be replaced in the one-day line-up on current form, however think he's still up there, just not consistent enough for Test cricket... at his best could replace Zaheer in the test team.

I initially had Dhoni in the one-day team as well, however went with Al-Hasan as the all-rounder. Could understand people including someone else here but his form has been excellent of late.

Also no poms! Swann would be unlucky to miss out on the test team but Singh is my man... Vettori is a certainty for the one-day spinners spot...

Thoughts???

The tail in your test team is awful batting wise

My test team would prob be


G. Smith
V. Sehwag
H. Amla
S. Tendulkar
M. Jayawardene
VVS Laxman
K. Sangakkara
G. Swann
Z. Khan
J. Anderson
D. Steyn

saint_larry
18 Nov 2010, 16:17
The wicketkeeper position is a tricky one for the test side.
Not close to teh best batsman going around, but how about Jayawardene (the keeper) from Sri Lanka? Last I checked, he was by a mile the best wicketkeeper in the world, especially to the spinners.
Averages 30 with the bat as well, fair effort.

TigerGlory
18 Nov 2010, 17:08
Sangakkarra dosent keep anymore in Test matches so thats worth keeping in mind when picking your sides.

Gotta have De Villiers in your side in my opinion. That guy is just a freak at life. :thumbsu:

aflcliche
6 Dec 2010, 22:51
Hows this?

V. Shewag
G. Smith* (Cook not yet, Gayle too inconsistent, Struass a contender)
K. Sangakara
S. Tendulkar
J. Kallis
K. Pieterson (mainly based on talent rather than this years performance)
M. Prior / B. Haddin (Boucher contender also). Not sure on this one. Help?
G. Swann
D. Steyn
I. Sharma
M. Asif / M. Amir (forgetting about the scandals)

Telling there's only 1 Aus and its not a clear selection. 2-3 Englishmen. A few years ago half the side would be Australian. The worm has turned.

Kahuna
6 Dec 2010, 22:55
Bowling stocks have obviously declined.

thorne89
6 Dec 2010, 22:57
Virender Sehwag
Graeme Smith (c)
Kumar Sangakarra (+)
Sachin Tendulkar
Jacques Kallis
Hashim Amla
Shane Watson/Daniel Vettori (depends if the pitch is a spinner or a seamer)
Graeme Swann
Dale Steyn
Mohammad Amir
Mohammad Asif
12th - Daniel Vettori/Shane Watson (see above)

Damon_3388
6 Dec 2010, 23:02
Bowling stocks have obviously declined.

They can only take wickets against the opponents they're presented with.

Kahuna
6 Dec 2010, 23:06
Its oppostion possibly - Not using any players listed in the OP.

Shane Watson (Aus)
Chris Gayle (Windies)
Hashim Amla (South Africa)
Johnathan Trott (England)
Ross Taylor (New Zealand)
AB deVilliers (South Africa)
Mahendra Singh Dhoni (India)
Ross Taylor (New Zealand)
Zaheer Khan (India)
James Anderson (England)
Daniel Vettori (New Zealand)
Kumar Roach (West Indies)

J Selwood14
6 Dec 2010, 23:17
based on past year performance

Sehwag
Cook
Tendulkar
Sangakkara
de Villiers/Amla
Watson
Dhoni
Swann
Khan
Anderson
Steyn

EaglesFlyingHigh
6 Dec 2010, 23:28
Hows this?

V. Shewag
G. Smith* (Cook not yet, Gayle too inconsistent, Struass a contender)
K. Sangakara
S. Tendulkar
J. Kallis
K. Pieterson (mainly based on talent rather than this years performance)
M. Prior / B. Haddin (Boucher contender also). Not sure on this one. Help?
G. Swann
D. Steyn
I. Sharma
M. Asif / M. Amir (forgetting about the scandals)

Telling there's only 1 Aus and its not a clear selection. 2-3 Englishmen. A few years ago half the side would be Australian. The worm has turned.

No chance

amer
6 Dec 2010, 23:30
If I could pick one international batsman to put into our side right now it would be de Villiers. Magnificent player.

thorne89
6 Dec 2010, 23:33
If I could pick one international batsman to put into our side right now it would be de Villiers. Magnificent player.

I'd go Jacques Kallis everyday of the week and twice on Sundays.

SBI
6 Dec 2010, 23:51
No chance

Haha yeah. He's been ratshit for a long time now.

Dipper
7 Dec 2010, 04:30
What would be more revealing would be a combined England-Australia side.

Even in 2005 you'd have been hard pressed to put more English in than Aussies.

Now it'd be a very different story.

courtjester
7 Dec 2010, 06:26
Smith
Sehwag
Amla
Tendulkar
Kallis
DeVilliers
Sangakarra (+)
Vettori
Khan
Steyn
Anderson

courtjester
7 Dec 2010, 06:31
What would be more revealing would be a combined England-Australia side.

Even in 2005 you'd have been hard pressed to put more English in than Aussies.

Now it'd be a very different story.

Based on Ashes form...

Strauss
Cook
Trott
Pieterson
Hussey
Bell
Haddin
Swann
Siddle
Finn
Anderson

Ouch! For a long time you'd have been lucky to get one Englishman in the combined eleven. Now there are eight to Australia's three.

Furn
7 Dec 2010, 07:18
surely Sangakara would keep.

aflcliche
7 Dec 2010, 07:45
I think Sanga prefers not to keep in tests, as he focuses on batting and is arguably the best in the world. So I've gone a specialist keeper, but not sure who the best is at the moment as theres a lot of good keeper batsmen. I missed Dhoni, and probably wrong about Sharma. Anderson could get a run as a specialist swing bowler. De Villiers and Amla young guns that have just established so I overlooked them, but could be included.

Mr P@H
7 Dec 2010, 07:52
Based on Ashes form...

Strauss
Cook
Trott
Pieterson
Hussey
Bell
Haddin
Swann
Siddle
Finn
Anderson

Ouch! For a long time you'd have been lucky to get one Englishman in the combined eleven. Now there are eight to Australia's three.

Broad has bowled better than Finn overall I reckon and is a better bowler altogether.

legend166
7 Dec 2010, 08:09
surely Sangakara would keep.

Why would he?

I mean, if you're just picking the side to play a one off match or whatever, you would make him keeper. But if the side is to be a representation of the best players in the world and what position they play, it's a cop out to include Sangakkara as the keeper. Look at his stats:

As keeper: 48 matches, average of 40. He last kept full time in 2006, outside of one match against the West Indies in 2008 where he scored 10 and 14.

Not keeping: 46 matches, average of 76.

Easily the best number 3 in the world at the moment, but you wouldn't make him keep or include him as keeper at number 7.

Haddin's the best of a bad bunch I think.

saint_larry
7 Dec 2010, 10:43
Smith *
Sehwag
Sangakarra
Tendulkar
Sanga
Kallis
Amla
HAPW Jayawardene +
Swann
Steyn
Khan
Anderson

12th - Trott

Damon_3388
7 Dec 2010, 11:32
I think Sanga prefers not to keep in tests, as he focuses on batting and is arguably the best in the world. So I've gone a specialist keeper, but not sure who the best is at the moment as theres a lot of good keeper batsmen. I missed Dhoni, and probably wrong about Sharma. Anderson could get a run as a specialist swing bowler. De Villiers and Amla young guns that have just established so I overlooked them, but could be included.

Just established? They both made their Test debuts six years ago, and have played 63 (de Villiers) and 48 (Amla) Tests respectively.

aflcliche
7 Dec 2010, 12:44
Just established? They both made their Test debuts six years ago, and have played 63 (de Villiers) and 48 (Amla) Tests respectively.

Yes. As top class consistent batsmen. The others Avg over 50, when these guys reach 50 avg, they're established and deserve a place.

TigerGlory
7 Dec 2010, 12:58
My combined Ashes team so far would be;

Watson
Cook
Trott
Pietersen
Hussey
Bell
Haddin
Swann
Siddle
Finn
Anderson

Alpha1
7 Dec 2010, 13:32
No Tendulkar in any of the ODI squads? All time greatest all round batsmen and no VVS in the test team?

lards
7 Dec 2010, 15:04
Swann and Anderson definately deserve to be in the World XI. Jimmy tore us apart in the first innings, Swanny in the second.

Damon_3388
7 Dec 2010, 16:30
Yes. As top class consistent batsmen. The others Avg over 50, when these guys reach 50 avg, they're established and deserve a place.

Other posts have mentioned names like Shane Watson, Chris Gayle, Ross Taylor and Kevin Pietersen, and none of them average 50. In fact, KP is the only one of that quartet who averages above 42.

Also, am I the only one who thinks Thilan Samaraweera at least deserves a mention for the Test side? Career average of 54.25 from 63 matches, which all-time is only behind Kumar Sangakkara, Sachin Tendulkar and Virender Sehwag as far as Asian batsmen go, and is ahead of guys like Mahela Jayawardena, Rahul Dravid, Mohammad Yousuf and Gautam Gambhir.

cross#4
7 Dec 2010, 16:55
Sehwag
Smith (c)
Gambir
Sangakarra (keeper)
Amla
Watson
Vettori
Swann
Steyn
Anderson
Asif

cross#4
7 Dec 2010, 16:56
Double post

The Falcon Strike
7 Dec 2010, 17:15
I'll go with

Sehwag
Smith
Sangakarra
Tendulkar
Amla
Watson
Dhoni
Swann
Khan
Anderson
Steyn


Iqbal from Bangladesh wouldn't be too far away - averaging 60 with the bat at a strike rate of 80 is good going.

aflcliche
7 Dec 2010, 19:25
Other posts have mentioned names like Shane Watson, Chris Gayle, Ross Taylor and Kevin Pietersen, and none of them average 50. In fact, KP is the only one of that quartet who averages above 42.

Also, am I the only one who thinks Thilan Samaraweera at least deserves a mention for the Test side? Career average of 54.25 from 63 matches, which all-time is only behind Kumar Sangakarra, Sachin Tendulkar and Virender Sehwag as far as Asian batsmen go, and is ahead of guys like Mahela Jayawardena, Rahul Dravid, Mohammed Yousuf and Gautam Gambhir.

Yes, those are from other posters and also in back up world XI teams. I'm saying why I haven't chosen them for MY XI. You'll find the averages of my side are over 50. I'll need to see these guys perform as well as they have a year or so more, then I'd be convinced.

nineteen eighty
8 Dec 2010, 15:30
Leading ICC Test Rankings:

Batsmen

1 Kumar Sangakkara (SRI)

2 Sachin Tendulkar (IND)

3 Virender Sehwag (IND)

4 Jacques Kallis (RSA)

5 AB de Villiers (RSA)

6 Jonathan Trott (ENG)

7 Mahela Jayawardene (SRI)

8 Shiv Chanderpaul (WI)

9 Graeme Smith (RSA)

10 Thilan Samaraweera (SRI)

Bowlers

1 Dale Steyn (RSA)

2 Graeme Swann (ENG)

3 James Anderson (ENG)

4 Zaheer Khan (IND)

5 Mohammad Asif (PAK)

6 Morne Morkel (RSA)

7 Mitchell Johnson (AUS)

8 Harbhajan Singh (IND)

9 Shakib Al Hasan (BAN)

10 Mohammad Amir (PAK)

Spudregus_87
10 Dec 2010, 02:42
TEST:
Virender Sehwag
Graeme Smith *
Hashim Amla
Sachin Tendulkar
Jonathan Trott
AB De Villiers
Matthew Prior+
Graeme Swann
Jimmy Anderson
Dale Steyn
Zaheer Kahn

ODI
Andrew Strauss*
Tillakaratne Dilshan
Hashim Amla
Kumar Sangakkara+
Cameron White
AB de Villiers
Michael Hussey
Shakib Al Hasan
Stuart Broad
Ryan Harris
Doug Bollinger

T20
Mahela Jayawardene*
Brendan McCullum+
Suresh Raina
Kevin Pieterson
David Hussey
Umar Akmal
Eion Morgan
Mitchel Johnson
Graeme Swann
Shaun Tait
Dirk Nannes

Bourky23
10 Dec 2010, 07:33
TEST:
Virender Sehwag
Graeme Smith *
Hashim Amla
Sachin Tendulkar
Jonathan Trott
AB De Villiers
Matthew Prior+
Graeme Swann
Jimmy Anderson
Dale Steyn
Zaheer Kahn


notsureifserious?

Sangakarra is a an absolute lock in the team, and if you aren't using him as a keeper then Dhoni is the only other option IMO.

Bourky23
10 Dec 2010, 07:38
I suppose I can't take potshots without putting my own neck on the line.

Sehwag
Smith
Kallis
Tendulkar
Sangakarra (+) - don't care if he doesn't keep in tests anymore, he is for me.
De Villiers
Watson
Harbhajan
Jimmy Anderson
Dale Steyn
Zaheer Kahn

if I was picking a team my 'favourite' team then drop Kallis for Amla or VVS Laxman and Sehwag out for Watson at the top of the order and Pietersen in the middle order.

Spudregus_87
10 Dec 2010, 17:55
notsureifserious?

Sangakarra is a an absolute lock in the team, and if you aren't using him as a keeper then Dhoni is the only other option IMO.

Yeah, the fact that Sanga doesn't keep in tests anymore put him out.

With a '+' next to his name, he's a lock, don't know who makes way for him though?

And yeah, normally would've had MS in there before Prior, but from memory the 'Englishman's' stats for 2010 had him in front.

I suppose I can't take potshots without putting my own neck on the line.

Sehwag
Smith
Kallis
Tendulkar
Sangakarra (+) - don't care if he doesn't keep in tests anymore, he is for me.
De Villiers
Watson
Harbhajan
Jimmy Anderson
Dale Steyn
Zaheer Kahn


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Phone
10 Dec 2010, 19:52
yeah Harbhajan has been pretty poor recently. Unless you're picking him as a bat?

Bourky23
12 Dec 2010, 12:23
Harb is the best spinner in the world right now since Warne and Murali have bailed.

form perhaps isn't showing it, but he's the only 'match-winner' getting around.

don't rate Swann.

Spudregus_87
12 Dec 2010, 12:52
Harb is the best spinner in the world right now
...don't rate Swann.

Watch cricket much brah? :p;)

Bourky23
12 Dec 2010, 13:13
Put it this way, I'd rather face Swann than Harbhajan in full flight.

Swann is just a nagging off-spinner who's making the most of playing some shitty line-ups with no confidence.

Harbhajan can get some serious rip when he wants to.

finger spinners > off spinners.

and no, they're not the same thing.

Spudregus_87
12 Dec 2010, 13:46
finger spinners > off spinners.

and no, they're not the same thing.

Which are you ;)