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22 Nov 2010, 13:38
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The GABBA, Thursday 25th November-Monday 29th November, 11am AEDT, 10am Local

Another summer and another Ashes series is upon us and another sponsor for the tests as well with Vodafone taking over 3. This year the summer began with an ODI series against Sri Lanka which Australia got badly beaten in but no one cared as this is the main event, its what everyone has been waiting 15 months for to see if Australia can yet again reclaim the Ashes or can England finally win a series in Australia. England enters the Ashes with the form, they have had a big year winning all their series whilst also managing a very good draw against South Africa away this time last year in a series they were given no hope in.

Australia is struggling, they lost the Ashes last year and then were happy having trounced the might of Pakistan and West Indies at home then headed to Kiwi land to topple them as well. But a drawn series in England against Pakistan shook the side and a shocking loss to India just recently sees the team in disarray, yet just 1 player from their preferred side in those series makes way because of it. However the Aussies are now at home and having set up a fortress at the GABBA having not lost in 22 years since Marshall, Ambrose and Walsh ran through them, the GABBA could be the deciding test, last time England won in Brisbane they won the series.

That was 1986/87 with England winning 2-1 with Chris Broad having a sensational series with the bat, 24 years later and England will be hoping another Broad dominates this time with the ball. The last time England toured Australia it was a disaster, from losing the toss and conceding 600 on a GABBA highway to letting all the momentum of a brilliant first innings in Adelaide disappear in a disastrous last day collapse at the hands of Warney. Thankfully for England he isnt around anymore and last year in England it was the Aussie batsmen doing the collapsing.

They started off well in Cardiff but some extremely poor captaincy and fine batting at the end saw a draw salvaged by England. England looked in control after that untill a Headingely collapse saw Australia draw level and so came the controversial last test as a flat Oval saw some life for the first time in decades and with Trott making a century on debut the Poms regained the Ashes. Clarke was the only Australian batsman to have a great series whilst Watson started off ok in opening following the dropping of Hughes whilst with the ball Hilfy loved the English conditions and Siddle found his rythym by the end and was Australias 2nd best bowler. Strauss was Englands best with the bat and Broad with the ball but it was overall a good team effort and great use of home conditions that saw them prevail. Over the last 12 months though the English side has used the momentum and becomes a stronger outfit

Now we move forward to 2010, Australia has pretty much the same side that lost the Ashes with Stuart Clark never playing again after Australia stuffed up by playing him ahead of Hauritz at the Oval whilst Hauritz has now been dumped as the scapegoat for losing in India. In to the squad comes Xavier Doherty, the bloke averaging nearly 50 for Tasmania with the ball but has been in some fine form the last year or so having finally pushed Krezja out of the side.

Doug Bollinger is also around having benefitted from injuries since the last Ashes however his own injury may cost him his spot as the selectors return to the pace trio that lost the Ashes 15 months ago as Peter Siddle looks fit and fired up for a return after 11 months on the sidelines. His last test was pretty good though as he dominated with the bat to get Australia home. Steve Smith looks likely to be heading home on Thursday morning so he can join NSW on Friday as North is safe and Hussey saved his spot with a century against a weakened Victorian outfit last week and his young challengers couldnt make anything at all against Englands 2nd attack. However Michael Clarke who failed to get through the Shield game 2 weeks ago and was rested last week has missed training as they continue to manage his back injury and could be in some doubt.

For England things couldnt be better, having won 2 of their tour matches and rain and a flat Adelaide Oval seeing a draw in the other, their form is high. They sent their 2nd string attack to Hobart but it was still enough to topple the Aussie A side and their batsmen have mostly found form. Trott hasnt done much though and after 2 shocking tours last English winter when he couldnt make a run at his native home or against Bangers away he looks to continue that so far as he can only make runs in England. Kevin Pietersen hasnt fired in a long time and that will worry England, but he loves it downunder and this may be his last chance to really make a name for himself, a failure here and his career may wind down as he gets remembered as a good batsman who didnt do enough after a great start.

Strauss and Cook couldnt make any runs 4 years ago but with Strauss leading run scorer last year and both making centuries in tour matches their confidence will be high and will be important to get off to a great start with Englands worries at 3 and 4 but their middle-lower order is stronger than ever. Collingwood loves it downunder and Bell loves batting at no6 having now proven once and for all he is no no3. Prior, Swann and Broad round out the batting lineup and alot will be expected of them and with Australias troubles finishing off teams lately, they should fire up this series.

Australia
Shane Watson
Simon Katich
Ricky Ponting (c)
Michael Clarke
Michael Hussey
Marcus North
Brad Haddin +
Mitchell Johnson
Peter Siddle
Xavier Doherty
Ben Hilfenhaus
Doug Bollinger
Steve Smith
Usman Khawaja
In:Xavier Doherty
Steve Smith
Peter Siddle
Doug Bollinger
Brad Haddin
Usman Khawaja
Out: Peter George
Nathan Hauritz
Tim Paine

England
Andrew Strauss (c)
Alastair Cook
Jonathon Trott
Kevin Pietersen
Paul Collingwood
Ian Bell
Matthew Prior
Stuart Broad
Graeme Swann
Steven Finn
James Anderson
In:Ian Bell
Out: Eoin Morgan

Umpires
Aleem Dar
Billy Doctrove
Tony Hill
Jeff Crowe- Match Referee
The video review system is in place for this series :thumbsu:

Coverage
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Cricinfo Scorecard and commentary (http://www.espncricinfo.com/the-ashes-2010-11/engine/current/match/428749.html)
Cricket Australia Scorecard and commentary (http://livescores.cricket.com.au/summary_2497_1.html)

Session Times all local, add 1 hour for rest of East, 30 mins for Adelaide and remove 2 hours for Perth
1st Session - 10:00 - 12:00
2nd Session - 12:40 - 14:40
3rd Sessions - 15:00 - 17:00 + 30 minutes for poor over rates every day...

Weather
Showers, showers and more showers forecast throughout the first 4 days although just expecting early ones on days 2 and 3 and late on day 4, likely more on the 5th as well seeing where the forecast is headed. Be 26-27 degree maximums across the test.

Brisbane has been wet as always so some life expected in the pitch, conditions dont seem to bad though this week and a run fest early may be expected again once seen off the new ball, the limited overs pitches have been very flat and with a bit of pace and bounce in them. With no storms forecast we probably wont see a game like the NZ one a few years back

Betting
The punters are favouring Australia despite everything else against them
1st Test
Australia 2.10
England 3.00
Draw 3.70

Series
Australia 1.85
England 2.90
Draw 5.00

Tickets
Sold out days 1-3

krisholio14
27 Nov 2010, 07:47
If the Poms can get a couple of quick ones early they right back in it.

Adelaide Hawk
27 Nov 2010, 08:05
The X-factor in this Test is the new ball this morning. Haddin has been inept in the past with the introduction of a new ball, and if the Poms pick up 2-3 quick ones, we may struggle to reach 300. If that happens, and the Poms' batting gives them a reasonable lead, I have always worried about Australia's capacity to chase down targets in the 4th Innings.

I'd think England would be slight favourites at this stage, but if the Aussies can get 350+, it will swing back our way. Go Aussies.

Furn
27 Nov 2010, 08:05
Is it an early start because of the rain last night?

danielnajdek
27 Nov 2010, 08:10
Yeah I think it starts at 10:30. Thats Melbourne time for me which I think is 9:30 Brisbane time ;)

usalion
27 Nov 2010, 08:15
That is correct

Stuck21
27 Nov 2010, 08:24
whats the weather looking like up in brisbane? are we looking at starting on time?

Tapee
27 Nov 2010, 08:26
Play should be starting in 4 minutes.

Edit: New ball and a 'freshened' up pitch*, should be an interesting first hour.

*They were rather slow to put the covers on when it was raining last night.

Cousin Jed
27 Nov 2010, 08:28
Its fine.

Ludwig van Bertstare
27 Nov 2010, 08:29
Subbed.

Eth
27 Nov 2010, 08:35
That was close.

Eth
27 Nov 2010, 08:42
Come on Huss...

Cousin Jed
27 Nov 2010, 08:42
Umpire's call I think

Eth
27 Nov 2010, 08:43
Yes. On ya hussey

beez
27 Nov 2010, 08:43
Suck shit Poms!

mattys123
27 Nov 2010, 08:44
Terrible umpiring decision, there shouldn't have even been the need for a challenge there.

Anyway, Hussey survives, 18 more please Mr Cricket.

belfast_bomber
27 Nov 2010, 08:44
Go on Huss. Make it count.

dumb
27 Nov 2010, 08:44
icing on the cake to be some decisions that they can't review but would have been out.

usalion
27 Nov 2010, 08:46
Wasn't that bad, IMO- the umps have to make quick, decisive calls- he was off by what, an inch? Dar has done a pretty good job this Test

Good use of the review, though.

Eth
27 Nov 2010, 08:46
Broad's swinging it a fair bit.

aussie1st
27 Nov 2010, 08:47
Good call Hussey and that is what I predicted.

dumb
27 Nov 2010, 08:49
can we bat through the session? would have a lead of about 50.

Jimthegreat
27 Nov 2010, 08:50
The X-factor in this Test is the new ball this morning. Haddin has been inept in the past with the introduction of a new ball, and if the Poms pick up 2-3 quick ones, we may struggle to reach 300. If that happens, and the Poms' batting gives them a reasonable lead, I have always worried about Australia's capacity to chase down targets in the 4th Innings.

I'd think England would be slight favourites at this stage, but if the Aussies can get 350+, it will swing back our way. Go Aussies.

That's going from the old to the new ball where the bounce and pace of it can throw you out due to the sudden adjustment. starting a new day with the new ball might be different as he has opened successfully before in First Class and Limited Overs cricket.

If we get through the new ball and get to their score "5 out" then we're in a good position. We're at the pivotal point of the game.

"josh
27 Nov 2010, 08:51
Terrible umpiring decision, there shouldn't have even been the need for a challenge there.

Anyway, Hussey survives, 18 more please Mr Cricket.

How was it terrible? It barley pitched outside the line and was hitting the stumps.

mattys123
27 Nov 2010, 08:52
Very defensive start to the day, I don't think I've seen one attacking shot played yet, slight concern, as the pressure keeps building.

Anyway, cmon Huss, 17 more.

dumb
27 Nov 2010, 08:53
good attack blunting by hadds... we catch the lead he'll probably open up.

belfast_bomber
27 Nov 2010, 08:54
can we bat through the session? would have a lead of about 50.

If these two can bat through the session we'd be very nicely set. Anything more would be a bonus.

Come on boys.

Eth
27 Nov 2010, 08:57
icing on the cake to be some decisions that they can't review but would have been out.

Maybe...

Maybe again...

Too good.

Cousin Jed
27 Nov 2010, 08:58
Finally got their line and length right to Hussey

Think that was 2 pads.

Invigoration
27 Nov 2010, 08:58
Farrrk, I thought that was gone.

Does anyone else get the impression the review system played a part in Dar's decision there (/plays a part in decisions on the whole)? Knowing Hussey would almost certainly review the decision but England, being out of reviews, didn't have the same power and hence he errs on the side of caution? I imagine they feel a bit foolish having to overturn their decisions out in the middle.

Adelaide Hawk
27 Nov 2010, 08:58
That's going from the old to the new ball where the bounce and pace of it can throw you out due to the sudden adjustment.

That may be so, but he hasn't been all that convincing in the early overs.

Kim Hagdorn
27 Nov 2010, 08:58
Dodged a bullit there..

beez
27 Nov 2010, 08:59
Strauss not happy there

"josh
27 Nov 2010, 08:59
That's a horrible decision.

omit
27 Nov 2010, 08:59
lucky they used up the reviews

dan warna
27 Nov 2010, 09:01
Australia winning the call of the video umpire mind games.

That might start playing on the english minds.

Psychologically it might frustrate them as Australia still have 2 phone a friends and England have none this innings.

Australia probably need at least 100 run advantage to avoid batting for a long on the 4th innings.

No reviews left and the Brits looking frustrated :) :D

XFactor1979
27 Nov 2010, 09:01
oh come on, wheres the days when australia was scoring 4 runs per over in a test match?

bat 4 sessions - get 450 for 5 declared

this is england, arent they the token punching bag for us?

Cousin Jed
27 Nov 2010, 09:02
Broad's been steady but he has bowled too short I think.

mattys123
27 Nov 2010, 09:03
Farrrk, I thought that was gone.

Does anyone else get the impression the review system played a part in Dar's decision there (/plays a part in decisions on the whole)? Knowing Hussey would almost certainly review the decision but England, being out of reviews, didn't have the same courtesy and hence he errs on the side of caution? I imagine they feel a bit foolish having to overturn their decisions out in the middle.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Dar didn't want to face another challenge, he heard 2 noises and said, nup, Huss would challenge that and win.

Bad decision, but it's what the poms get for throwing away their challenges early.

"josh
27 Nov 2010, 09:04
That's why I don't like the review system. No faith shown in the umpires.

dumb
27 Nov 2010, 09:04
oh come on, wheres the days when australia was scoring 4 runs per over in a test match?

bat 4 sessions - get 450 for 5 declared

this is england, arent they the token punching bag for us?


the days of good middle order... and gilchrist. i miss that too, but this is tense and exciting at the moment.

Jimthegreat
27 Nov 2010, 09:05
That may be so, but he hasn't been all that convincing in the early overs.

Moving about a bit but as long as he gets through it. Tis point of the match is so pivotal. New ball, 5 out, 30 behind, get though it and we can build a lead, lose a couple of wickets and England will possibly get the upper hand.

XFactor1979
27 Nov 2010, 09:06
No reviews left and the Brits looking frustrated :) :D

thats why we'll win by 383 runs

i know they batted first but... but two effing words: angry effing anderson!

'bound for glory'

'... bound for glory!'

mattys123
27 Nov 2010, 09:08
England might be liking what they are seeing this morning, but they are the side that is likely to have a second innings deficit to make up, and this pitch is only going to get worse, especially for spinners and bowlers with the new ball.

Can't see anyone making 250 again after this innings, so every Australian run over England's total will be massive.

Jimthegreat
27 Nov 2010, 09:08
That's why I don't like the review system. No faith shown in the umpires.

Like it better than the alternative.

Tapee
27 Nov 2010, 09:09
Bad decision, but it's what the poms get for throwing away their challenges early.
Like when they appealed the Clarke non-decision and it was later revealed he hit it? Yeah, a real waste there. After that snicko result came in the 'spent' challenge should have been refunded.

dumb
27 Nov 2010, 09:10
reckon they might be waiting for the bowling change too... these two not even going for 2 an over the others 3+

Cousin Jed
27 Nov 2010, 09:11
Exactly what I was thinking.

Dar didn't want to face another challenge, he heard 2 noises and said, nup, Huss would challenge that and win.

Bad decision, but it's what the poms get for throwing away their challenges early.

Don't think the challenge had anything to do with it. Umpires these days if they hear 2 noises give almost nothing.

I remember Johnson had Bell in the most blatantly plumb LBW in the last Ashes but Rudi heard the 2 noises "front pad onto back pad" and gave it not out.

Invigoration
27 Nov 2010, 09:12
That's why I don't like the review system. No faith shown in the umpires.

Yeah I'm the same, I think it plays on the umpire's minds too much, reduces their confidence to actually back their decision and can end up spawning more bad decisions than it prevents.

I was always fine to let bygones be bygones, things generally evened themselves out over the course of the game anyway. The focus needs to be on training the best and most competent umpires possible, not putting them on the main stage and having them made to look foolish. One overturned decision would play on my mind for the whole test if I was an umpire I reckon.

That's just my 2 cents. Ripping spell from Anderson regardless.

OzBomber
27 Nov 2010, 09:13
OT, but Mark Waugh's masive six just got uploaded on youtube and I thought people might wanna see it

TdNtVYdkQQU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdNtVYdkQQU&feature=sub

dan warna
27 Nov 2010, 09:13
Like when they appealed the Clarke non-decision and it was later revealed he hit it? Yeah, a real waste there. After that snicko result came in the 'spent' challenge should have been refunded.

snicko indicated there was a sound, the hot spot is the agreed technology and there was no hot spot on the bat.

Sound could have come from else where as there was no conclusive evidence it was off the bat.

fight by the rules.

krisholio14
27 Nov 2010, 09:14
Poms can't take a trick so far.

legend166
27 Nov 2010, 09:15
It looked plumb with the benefit of slow motion replay, but live you can understand why it was given not out. Clearly two noises, and the bat was close to the pad.

That's where the review system would have come in handy, but England wasted them.


This is some really, really good bowling though.

BIGDAZR
27 Nov 2010, 09:16
how is hussey not going out

Adelaide Hawk
27 Nov 2010, 09:16
Anderson bowling beautifully. A far better bowler than when we saw him here last time. Unfortunately, a wicket is almost inevitable.

Cousin Jed
27 Nov 2010, 09:16
Like when they appealed the Clarke non-decision and it was later revealed he hit it? Yeah, a real waste there. After that snicko result came in the 'spent' challenge should have been refunded.

Just a creaky bat...

Mr P@H
27 Nov 2010, 09:17
If there was no review system England would have 1 wicket, which is what they deserve... Decisions will always even themselves out in the end of a test match, we went 120 years and some great players not using it...

HSSB
27 Nov 2010, 09:17
Going to stay watching the cricket rather than the Celtics game for now, just for Hussey, he better deliver

OzBomber
27 Nov 2010, 09:19
Usually I'm pissed off about not being able to play cricket, but today I kinda hope it gets rained out. This is an awesome match. :thumbsu:

Axel.
27 Nov 2010, 09:20
Anderson bowling hand grenades.

getthefooty
27 Nov 2010, 09:20
Tough little session here. I'd like to see a bit more counter-attacking because at the moment it looks like they're just waiting to get out, but Anderson in particular is bowling superbly.

nicko99
27 Nov 2010, 09:20
great spell by Anderson this morning, been very unlucky.

Adelaide Hawk
27 Nov 2010, 09:20
If there was no review system England would have 1 wicket, which is what they deserve... Decisions will always even themselves out in the end of a test match, we went 120 years and some great players not using it...

Agreed. I don't like the system at all, but we're stuck with it.

DamoESP
27 Nov 2010, 09:21
Come on Huss

mattys123
27 Nov 2010, 09:23
Shot of the morning from Haddin.:thumbsu:

dan warna
27 Nov 2010, 09:24
If there was no review system England would have 1 wicket, which is what they deserve... Decisions will always even themselves out in the end of a test match, we went 120 years and some great players not using it...

So you are saying if there was no appeal system the umpire would have made a different decision?

There was two sounds and the umpire may have still thought it was not out due to an inside edge.

England have made 2 appeals and both proven not correct based on the technology provided after the umpire gave not out.

Australia have made 2 appeals after the umpire gave out and both based on the technology to be proven to be in favour of the batsman.

So far technology has countered incorrect decisions being made.

I fail to see the validity of your criticism of the technology.

I think the system is doing well so far.

Cousin Jed
27 Nov 2010, 09:24
2 drinks breaks in the session? Geez get on with the bloody game. Its not that hot and the 12th man usually runs out drinks every 2 overs anyway...

beez
27 Nov 2010, 09:24
Good first hour, very lucky to survive the 2nd new ball. Anderson once again bowling beautifully.

XFactor1979
27 Nov 2010, 09:24
Agreed. I don't like the system at all, but we're stuck with it.

maybe 1 per innings to stop the frivolity of it all

and it doesnt matter if its correct or incorrect? :o

dumb
27 Nov 2010, 09:25
it will take years and years for the umpiring to even out the bad decision debt from 2005 ;)

CAS79
27 Nov 2010, 09:26
That is one of the best unrewarded spells of bowling I have ever seen from Anderson.

XFactor1979
27 Nov 2010, 09:27
it will take years and years for the umpiring to even out the bad decision debt from 2005 ;)

*plays on heartstrings* what about the amount of times the ball bowled people and the stumps werent broken?

*goes back to the yacht to join lachlan and james*

Mr P@H
27 Nov 2010, 09:28
So you are saying if there was no appeal system the umpire would have made a different decision?

There was two sounds and the umpire may have still thought it was not out due to an inside edge.

England have made 2 appeals and both proven not correct based on the technology provided after the umpire gave not out.

Australia have made 2 appeals after the umpire gave out and both based on the technology to be proven to be in favour of the batsman.

So far technology has countered incorrect decisions being made.

I fail to see the validity of your criticism of the technology.

I think the system is doing well so far.


No appeals and Hussey would have been out when he shouldn't have been instead of not being out when he should have been out.

Adelaide Hawk
27 Nov 2010, 09:29
maybe 1 per innings to stop the frivolity of it all

and it doesnt matter if its correct or incorrect? :o

Just to clarify, the reason I don't like it is because it may start to breed uncertainty into an umpire's decision making. Aleem Dar gave Hussey out, the replay showed it was not out .. correct decision. However, then came the plumb lbw, and Dar would have been loathe to lift the finger for fear of being wrong again. I'll go one futher and suggest if it wasn't for the referal system, he may have given both out.

Glad he didn't though :)

Jimthegreat
27 Nov 2010, 09:29
Agreed. I don't like the system at all, but we're stuck with it.

And as soon as a howler comes along people say "we need technology". If it improves the ability to give the right decision 98/100 then there's nothing wrong with it.

EDIT: Ahhh you clarified.

Still the umpire just has to umpire.

Notorious_29
27 Nov 2010, 09:32
Big fan of the referral system personally. People can say we need to train umpires at the highest quality, etc, etc, but the truth is umpires are always going to get decisions wrong, and if we have technology to use that can help correct incorrect decisions then I'm all for it.

dan warna
27 Nov 2010, 09:33
No appeals and Hussey would have been out when he shouldn't have been instead of not being out when he should have been out.

What? the umpire gave him out incorrectly and that was overturned on appeal.

the umpire then DIDN'T give him out....how would he have been out if the umpire didn't give him out...unless the english had an appeal left. If the english had an appeal left, then they could have appealed the not out.

THE ONLY WAY HE COULD HAVE BEEN GIVE OUT IS THROUGH THE APPEAL system, because the umpire gave him not out.

so net result, you wish that hussey was out to an erroneous decision instead of not out to another supposition should the English have had the capacity to appeal again?

your logic criticising the appeal system is fundamentally flawed unless you wish people given out through bad decision by umpires?

dan warna
27 Nov 2010, 09:35
Just to clarify, the reason I don't like it is because it may start to breed uncertainty into an umpire's decision making. Aleem Dar gave Hussey out, the replay showed it was not out .. correct decision. However, then came the plumb lbw, and Dar would have been loathe to lift the finger for fear of being wrong again. I'll go one futher and suggest if it wasn't for the referal system, he may have given both out.

Glad he didn't though :)

So you are second guessing dar? perhaps he genuinely though it wasn't out, so the only way he could have been given out is if the english had an appeal left, which they didn't.

Based on the facts presented the only way he could have been given out on the second decision is through appeal.

nicko99
27 Nov 2010, 09:36
Haddin about to unleash here

getthefooty
27 Nov 2010, 09:36
That's what I want to see Bradley.

Notorious_29
27 Nov 2010, 09:36
Finally some aggression from Haddin, great lofted shot over mid off.

Cousin Jed
27 Nov 2010, 09:37
Never seen so many wides called in a test match

nicko99
27 Nov 2010, 09:38
Also the short ball wide is an absolute joke, its test match cricket!

Cousin Jed
27 Nov 2010, 09:38
That's what I want to see Bradley.

If he plays that shot and holes out to mid off (he's done it before) this forum will go into a meltdown.

Mr P@H
27 Nov 2010, 09:39
What? the umpire gave him out incorrectly and that was overturned on appeal.

the umpire then DIDN'T give him out....how would he have been out if the umpire didn't give him out...unless the english had an appeal left. If the english had an appeal left, then they could have appealed the not out.

THE ONLY WAY HE COULD HAVE BEEN GIVE OUT IS THROUGH THE APPEAL system, because the umpire gave him not out.

so net result, you wish that hussey was out to an erroneous decision instead of not out to another supposition should the English have had the capacity to appeal again?

your logic criticising the appeal system is fundamentally flawed unless you wish people given out through bad decision by umpires?

No, Hussey would have been out if there was no appeal system 20 minutes earlier when he appealed the out decision of Dar which was overturned. So had he been given out then and the next batsman was given not out in the same way when Dar said it was not out then it would have been even.

I do see the pros of the appeal system, for catches and other close line calls but for LBW's the game was played for over 200 years and umpires made the call until now.

Tapee
27 Nov 2010, 09:41
Stuff.
What he's saying is that without the challenge system Hussey would have been given out, which would be a correct result in the swings and roundabouts way. Discounting of course that the 'evener' might not have occurred due to Hussey already being out.

Eth
27 Nov 2010, 09:44
Those KFC ads are horribly bad.

Eth
27 Nov 2010, 09:48
260 up.

dan warna
27 Nov 2010, 09:50
What he's saying is that without the challenge system Hussey would have been given out, which would be a correct result in the swings and roundabouts way. Discounting of course that the 'evener' might not have occurred due to Hussey already being out.

What he is saying is he would have been happy for hussey to be out to a bad decision.

the second decision was a non event because the umpire gave him not out anyway.

Eth
27 Nov 2010, 09:51
Shot.

Aussies in front.

Invigoration
27 Nov 2010, 09:51
Those KFC ads are horribly bad.

The Seagal ad isn't bad though.

"dig it" :cool:

dan warna
27 Nov 2010, 09:51
No, Hussey would have been out if there was no appeal system 20 minutes earlier when he appealed the out decision of Dar which was overturned. So had he been given out then and the next batsman was given not out in the same way when Dar said it was not out then it would have been even.

I do see the pros of the appeal system, for catches and other close line calls but for LBW's the game was played for over 200 years and umpires made the call until now.

I understand your desperation for a win you would be happy to see a player out to bad decision.

the English used the appeal system 4 times unsuccessfully so far, so its not like they are taking a moral stand against it.

BIGDAZR
27 Nov 2010, 09:51
crack what a cut shot from haddin

footycool
27 Nov 2010, 09:52
Wonder strike from Haddin

EDIT: Again!

Eth
27 Nov 2010, 09:52
50 to Brad Haddin, well done

Cousin Jed
27 Nov 2010, 09:52
Keep fighting Hadds.

The new calvins did the trick

beez
27 Nov 2010, 09:52
Great 50, calm, composed at the start, now will start to open up the shoulders.

ronnie1234
27 Nov 2010, 09:52
Great job Haddin

Great way to bring up the half century

Adelaide Hawk
27 Nov 2010, 09:53
Finn's bowling smorgasboard .. needs to straighten up and use his height for bounce.

Eth
27 Nov 2010, 09:53
The Seagal ad isn't bad though.

"dig it" :cool:

I wanna know where he got that exploding half-sausage.