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USAEagle
6 Aug 2003, 03:19
Just how credible is this sportswriter from The Age?

Apparently he has us finishing second.

I would like to think so.



Who will stay the distance in the finals race?
By Rohan Connolly
August 05 2003





The hare or the tortoise? Sprinter or stayer? In a top eight as tight as this season's, they're going to be a lot of questions asked over the next few weeks.

It's been many, many years since you could say as late as round 19 that there were still at least six premiership contenders. And just as long since those contenders were coming off such contrasting preparations for their tilt at September.

Reigning champ Brisbane flew out of the starting gates in April, building a handy buffer before it ran into serious trouble mid-season. Sydney got a little lost at the start, but picked up that ground with a huge burst mid-race and is handily placed at the final turn. Port Adelaide has been a constant at the head of the pack. And for those with a Melbourne Cup bent, Adelaide appears to be doing a Kiwi.

The Crows haven't ever been as far back in the field as was the famous New Zealand gelding in 1983, but have nevertheless gobbled up the gap between them and the leaders in equally ominous fashion. And it makes their clash with West Coast at Subiaco on Saturday even more intriguing than it might have been with the Eagles, having set the pace most of the year, now appearing to feel the pinch.

Would you rather be Adelaide or West Coast? With the Crows getting their injured stars back and having climbed to second, and the Eagles beginning to lose theirs and surrendering for the moment the double chance, the answer appears obvious. But look at their respective draws and it takes on another perspective.

Saturday's game is just the first of four considerable hurdles the Crows will have to jump to make the top four. They then play Collingwood at Telstra Dome, the Kangaroos at home, and face a round-22 showdown with Port Adelaide, the Power having beaten the Crows the past five times.

As ominous as the Crows have looked lately, they'll start clear favourites in only one of those games. Given the better road ahead for the Eagles, immediately beneath them on the ladder, they'll need to win at least three to make sure of a top-four spot. And if they don't, they're looking at another month-long slog after having just come through one simply to get there.

That said, Adelaide's only remaining injuries of note are to key forwards Scott Welsh and Mark Stevens, both of whom are expected to return in the next couple of weeks. Throw those names in alongside Wayne Carey, Ian Perrie, Brett Burton, Graham John****, Chris Ladhams and Ronnie Burns and you have more forward firepower than probably any other rival can muster. The question is whether the Crows will be in any position to unleash it.

West Coast would certainly be looking at the Crows' suddenly empty medical room with envy. The Eagles could hardly have lost four more important players (skipper Ben Cousins aside) than ruckman Michael Gardiner, key onballers Chad Fletcher and Andrew Embley, and now defensive playmaker David Wirrpunda, none of whom are likely to be back for a couple of games at least.

Embley has given the Eagles a new dimension as a good-sized midfielder who drifts forward and kicks plenty of goals, Fletcher was among the leading handful of AFL possession-getters before his back injury, and Gardiner's ruck value goes without question.

If West Coast, with that sort of injury profile, had the run Adelaide is facing now, the Eagles could just about be gone. But they don't. Once this weekend's critical clash is negotiated, the Eagles have Geelong, albeit away, Melbourne at home, and the round-22 derby with Fremantle, over whom the Eagles have a 14-3 stranglehold.

Adelaide is fresher and fitter, but with an Everest ahead. West Coast is ailing, but coming to a downhill slope.

It should be an interesting race.

vicki
6 Aug 2003, 12:16
He was on 6PR last night and he sees the Eagles finishing 2nd - winning every game - and The Dorkers missing the eight!! Must be an excellent judge of football :D

Jabber
6 Aug 2003, 12:35
Originally posted by vicki
He was on 6PR last night and he sees the Eagles finishing 2nd - winning every game - and The Dorkers missing the eight!! Must be an excellent judge of football :D

He's in la-la land. We won't win every game and the Dockers may end up finishing ahead of us after the Derby.

RzrBlade
6 Aug 2003, 12:47
I just hope we can get over the line against Adelaide with the help of the home-crowd behind us. If we can get past that hurdle, I believe we will finish in the top 4.

Sera
6 Aug 2003, 12:55
With the AFL deciding to bank a final in the 2nd week it really is imperitive to finish top 4. I hope we can do it but I don't think we will. I think we will lose to Adelaide and Geelong but we will easily beat Melbourne who are playing for a priority pick. Not sure if we can win the derby, we will need our best players back and playing well otherwise we will lose.

carneagles
6 Aug 2003, 19:35
The article is a logical mess.

Adelaide performed very well here against Freo a few weeks ago, and it's a fair bet that if they had defended properly after Farmer's mark they could have pinched it. Remember also that we murdered them early when they played here last year when Cousins was left untagged, and yet McLeod nearly won it for them off his own boot - against a stronger Eagles outfit. Is Josh going to do a better job on McLeod than last time?

Geelong at Kardinia Park are a tough prospect, especially when you remember that they nearly rolled us here at Subi. It could be St Kilda all over again.

We have a 14-3 ratio over Freo, but that means jack.

The only one you'd really pencil in is Melbourne, but even that could change in the next week. Geelong could roll over at the MCG this week and play 'em into form. What if Daniher quits?

steve_rat
6 Aug 2003, 21:08
i reckon connelly has cred. he's on 3aw a bit and he sounds pretty smart. hes been in the biz a while. i hope he's right!

also, John****, hehehe

love it

steve rat

GoEagles
7 Aug 2003, 01:02
2nd sounds very nice, but realistically I can't see us winning every game from now until the start of finals.

We are going to be screwed if we finish 4th and lose in the first week - that means we have to play a home final at the MCG.

Lidge
7 Aug 2003, 01:16
He's a bit of a knob jockey and one eyed Essendon supporter and seems to have a fairly high opinion of himself.

Some stuff he writes is OK but just as often he'll produce a pile of crap in the big paper. IMO - he has too many deadlines to meet and would be better off with less but higher quality articles.

For what it's worth - I had the Weagles finishing top 2 a couple of weeks back - but now anywhere from 3-5 looks more likely.

larrikin
7 Aug 2003, 02:59
Originally posted by Jabber
He's in la-la land. We won't win every game and the Dockers may end up finishing ahead of us after the Derby.
Pessimists everywhere.

One bad game - don't all fail on me now. We are no show to win the big prize (but look out 2004/2005), but we have a great run home.

Phil Doyle
7 Aug 2003, 05:02
His Brother was a famous Documentary maker and his other brother played guitar for Paul Kelly (the singer, not the Swan). You're dead right about his Essendon bias, but that says more about the Age than it does Connelly.

Tends to shoot off at the mouth, but he's got to meet a deadline, which is why I'd take his radio comments with a grain of salt. It all sells newspapers.

Like everyone else he hasn't got a clue what's gonna happen in the next seven weeks; if he did he'd be a racing writer.

carneagles
7 Aug 2003, 10:49
Originally posted by larrikin
Pessimists everywhere.Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see us sweep the next few games as much as the next bloke. And something I've been surprised about since Woosha took over is our ability to bounce back from defeats, even heavy ones.

I just can't see how it's a "downhill slope".

Jabber
7 Aug 2003, 12:35
Originally posted by larrikin
Pessimists everywhere.

One bad game - don't all fail on me now. We are no show to win the big prize (but look out 2004/2005), but we have a great run home.

Far too many injuries at the wrong time of the season. At full strength we'd finish 2nd after rd.22 - now I reckon 5th-6th.