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emuboy
12 Dec 2010, 11:14
Some TV shows prove to be both commercial and critical failures upon their release, while others are unpopular amongst critics but are commercially succesful, rating very well.

But sometimes, a show is released that has all the ingredients to succeed, is well-received by critics - and simply does not rate; while others do not rate when screened in other countries. Which shows can you think of like this? Some I remember are:

AMERICAN DREAMS - Sometimes called "Our Generation", this 2002 comedy-drama show introduced talented and versatile actress Brittany Snow, and centred around a family living in Philadelphia in the early 1960s, and the many social changes taking place during this era. Successful in its three year run in America, this high standard show was briefly screened in Australia several years ago, but few seem to remember it today - it did not achieve the fame of other 1960s retro shows The Wonder Years or Heartbeat.

THE HELLO GIRLS - Another good-standard, critically acclaimed 1960s retro show, this was from England and centred around a group of girls who worked in a telephone exchange in 1960. When it screened in Australia in 1997, it was on the ABC at the awkward time of 6 pm weekdays - and I have never seen it since, nor do I know anyone who remembers it. In fact I was beginning to wonder if I had dreamed the whole thing, until I found evidence of its existence by a brief IMDB entry and its opening theme on YouTube. Given that popular retro shows have never been released on DVD due to music rights, I think my chances of ever seeing this again are limited.

OUT OF PRACTICE - Starring experienced actors Henry Winkler and Stockard Channing, this smart, witty and sophisticated American sitcom was about a family of doctors, and had the potential to be as good as, if not better than, Frasier and Seinfeld, and deserved every word of praise afforded it by the critics. But it lasted just one season in the USA, was briefly screened in Australia in 2006 on Saturday nights, before moving to a graveyard timeslot - never to be seen again.

LAST MAN STANDING - I never watched this, but I heard from quite a few people how good this Australian comedy was. Part of the reason I never watched it was that it went to a late night timeslot when it didn't rate.

Does anyone remember the shows I mentioned?

jo172
12 Dec 2010, 11:36
Obviously Arrested Development is the poster child for this.

I also liked Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip and Sports Night.

Can't see why this only lasted 1 episode:

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flight23
12 Dec 2010, 11:39
i think every show ive watched in the last 5 years has been a flop on FTA

the wire
the shield
soppranos
lost
is dexter?

i only watch live sport on FTA

Dagless
12 Dec 2010, 12:00
Freaks and/or Geeks

Dagless
12 Dec 2010, 12:02
i think every show ive watched in the last 5 years has been a flop on FTA

the wire
the shield
soppranos
lost
is dexter?

i only watch live sport on FTA
Sopranos/Dexter were/are a ratings bonanza, Lost was for a good while.

Most Australian audiences couldn't realise a good TV show if it turkeyslapped them, so it's safe to ignore Australian ratings.

Rome was another favourite of mine that never had great ratings

TheColeTrain
12 Dec 2010, 12:13
i think every show ive watched in the last 5 years has been a flop on FTA

the wire
the shield
soppranos
lost
is dexter?

i only watch live sport on FTA

More so because of the way they were treated by FTA networks so most people just buy it on DVD or d/load it and watch it all at once.

Cheer Red Blood
12 Dec 2010, 14:41
Party Down.
Firefly.

matty p
12 Dec 2010, 17:08
Freaks and/or Geeks

Yeah Freaks and Geeks is one of the clear examples. Widely thought to be one of the modern greats but was only given 1 season due to poor ratings. Anyone who hasn't seen it yet should give it a shot!

Macca19
12 Dec 2010, 18:15
Yup Freaks & Greeks fo' sho'. Was dumped halfway through the first season. Probably my favourite show. Criminal that it only had 1 season. Though I feel that Apatow tried to make up for it with stuff like Superbad.

Oakland Raider
12 Dec 2010, 18:35
Firefly.
An excellent show weaved later to an excellent film.

Shell
12 Dec 2010, 19:46
Freaks and/or Geeks

This this and this.

Disgusting that show didnt get renewed, was brilliant, one of my all time favs. :(


Dead Like Me was a dam good show too that only got 2 seasons IIRC.

dales.girl38
12 Dec 2010, 21:07
Yep, Freaks and Geeks is a big one.

I also quite like Andy Richter Controls the Universe, it only got a season or 2.

ManWithNoName
12 Dec 2010, 21:10
Deadwood

darren forssman
12 Dec 2010, 21:24
american gothic

carnivale

bungalow_bill
12 Dec 2010, 21:37
Life-excellent show that only lasted 2 seasons

And i know it lasted multiple seasons but Medium never got the ratings it deserved.

NERDY
12 Dec 2010, 21:53
The early series' of The Amazing Race are perfect examples.

The Practice as well.

Lazarus
12 Dec 2010, 22:17
Better Off Ted

Copulator
12 Dec 2010, 22:17
monster house

stuart27
13 Dec 2010, 06:41
Last Man Standing and Life are two of my favourites that died too young.

Timmy Houlihan
13 Dec 2010, 06:45
Futurama and Arrested Development obviously

Kid Presentable
13 Dec 2010, 07:40
Pushing Daisies.

Wahooti Fandango
13 Dec 2010, 07:45
Deadwood

I thought it was cancelled because it was too expensive to make? Awesome show.

Jizza9
13 Dec 2010, 08:10
Party Down.
Firefly.
Party Down owned, such a shame it only got 2 seasons.

Tiger Fury #3
13 Dec 2010, 08:23
[quote=Shell;19771475]This this and this.

Disgusting that show didnt get renewed, was brilliant, one of my all time fav

A crime against humanity that it only lasted one season.

Spermbird
13 Dec 2010, 09:41
Lets see, the shows I watched that didn't make a 3rd season

Firefly
Wonderfalls
Dead Like Me
Pushing Daisies
Life

I have heard great things about Rome and need to check it out

Noddy Holder
13 Dec 2010, 10:36
Carnivale was awesome but only lasted two seasons.

flight23
13 Dec 2010, 12:19
Carnivale was awesome but only lasted two seasons.

i thought carnivale started brilliantly, then got lost in itself then got axed

then again, anything that goes REALLY religious loses me (priest guy i get, you've got shit going on, you don't need a half hour monologue from the bible to show me you're a bit ****ed up)

Donners
13 Dec 2010, 14:03
Early Edition.

It lasted four seasons, to be fair, but was always on the fringe of cancellation and was wound up quite abruptly.

Still waiting for the last two seasons to come out on DVD, too. :( At least Kyle Chandler is back on TV with Friday Night Lights.

Cleavy
13 Dec 2010, 15:23
Tru Calling (well, I liked it!)

estibador
14 Dec 2010, 01:58
LAST MAN STANDING - I never watched this, but I heard from quite a few people how good this Australian comedy was. Part of the reason I never watched it was that it went to a late night timeslot when it didn't rate.

I loved that show. There's very few tv shows that I religiously make time to watch (Dexter is the only one at the moment) but Last Man Standing grabbed me from day 1 and I watched every episode before they canned it.

Good Guys, Bad Guys was another quirky Aussie show I loved. At least that one lasted a whole 2 seasons before they cancelled it on me.

It pisses me off that Aussie shows that appeal to me barely last a season yet boring generic crap like Blue Heelers and Water Rats seemed to go on endlessly year after year.

Oscarman
14 Dec 2010, 06:42
Jericho. Got canned twice in the space of 29 episodes.

Lotch
14 Dec 2010, 07:44
Freaks and Geeks is definitely a great TV show that didn't rate.

Apatow even tried to make a similar show based on college with some of the same cast but that was axed after one season as well.

MalceskiFan
14 Dec 2010, 12:13
american gothic

carnivale

I don't watch many TV shows but loved these 2.

krusden
14 Dec 2010, 12:17
american gothic

carnivale

excellent potential, never fully explored.

i'll also add jericho - they let "the event" survive but killed jericho......

rocker_oz33
14 Dec 2010, 12:41
l found it to hard to watch the shield on normal telly they would stuff it up change the day/time wouldn't show the eps in the right order etc when out and got the DVDs much better. l done that with the wire aswell l like to sit my booty down and watch a few eps in a row.more on topic l like that show life yep another one bits the dust.

Copulator
14 Dec 2010, 20:01
bush mechanics