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LIONHART
14 Jan 2011, 05:01
Father and Sons
Father Son
Alf Sharp Mick Sharp
Fred Chanter Vic Chanter
Jim Toohey Jim Toohey
Jack Toohey
Len Gale Alan Gale
Charlie Chapman James Chapman
Dan Murray Kevin Murray
George Coates Michael Coates
Brian Pert Gary Pert
Ken Grimley Brett Grimley
Brian Brown Jonathan Brown
LIONHART
14 Jan 2011, 05:01
Chronology:
2019:
Lachlan Johnson (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8589065&postcount=24) (son of Chris Johnson)
2022:
Preston Johnson (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8589065&postcount=24) (son of Chris Johnson)
2023:
Aiden Johnson (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8589065&postcount=24) (son of Chris Johnson)
2029:
Lachlan Thomas Black (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22299137&postcount=612) (son of Simon Black)
LIONHART
14 Jan 2011, 05:01
with all these great past fitzroy players coming on to the thread, I thought I might start one looking at potential father/sons.
we have paul roos' boys, bradshaw's, and isn't one of gary pert's boys coming into draft calculations in the next year or so.
after the success of browny (father brian only played 50 games and only just qualified), what realistic chances do we have of any father/sons in say in the next five years?
I looked into this a while ago.
Our cupboard is going to be bare for a while. Not many players born in the late 50s or the 60s reached the 100 game mark for Fitzroy and the Bears only had six (for obvious reasons of not existing at the right time). The Brisbane Lions have only had Lynch, who already qualifies because of Fitzroy but only has girls anyway if memory serves.
It's probably not for close to another 5-10 years that you start to get the kids of Fitzroy in the 70s and 80s coming through. It's tricky, because I'm only estimating when these guys are most likely to have kids, I don't actually know whether or not they have or whether they're up to AFL standard.
3KZ is Football
14 Jan 2011, 06:37
Richard Osborne has a son who is probably going to come into calculations in 5 or so years if he has been playing underage football and has an interest in pursuing a career in football at the elite level.
http://www.fitzroyfc.com.au/2011FFCMembershipform.pdf
GingerGreatness
14 Jan 2011, 07:07
IIRC Darryl's (http://www.lions.com.au/players/playerprofile/darrylwhite/tabid/5189/playerid/14731/category/past/season/2010/selected/bio/default.aspx) boys scored a mention in the Lions end of year mag, coming through the Academy. Hope they make it :thumbsu:
with all these great past fitzroy players coming on to the thread, I thought I might start one looking at potential father/sons.
we have paul roos' boys, bradshaw's, and isn't one of gary pert's boys coming into draft calculations in the next year or so.
after the success of browny (father brian only played 50 games and only just qualified), what realistic chances do we have of any father/sons in say in the next five years?
I think Roos' boys are with the Swans academy and as a result if they end up being good enough then they will be drafted by the Swans.
3KZ is Football
14 Jan 2011, 07:53
I think Roos' boys are with the Swans academy and as a result if they end up being good enough then they will be drafted by the Swans.
I'm sorry, but I don't understand how this follows. Could someone please explain the standing of "acadamies" in relation to draft rules. If the Swans "draft" them, what picks do they have to use to do so?
I think I don't like these acadamy things.
If the Roos boys are good enough, I would like to see them at Brisbane.
You won't believe this but:D Whitey's boys are absolutely outstanding athletes!
I'm sorry, but I don't understand how this follows. Could someone please explain the standing of "acadamies" in relation to draft rules. If the Swans "draft" them, what picks do they have to use to do so?
I think I don't like these acadamy things.
If the Roos boys are good enough, I would like to see them at Brisbane.
Academies effectively give that club first dibs on the player, equivalent to father/son. So both Brisbane and Sydney would be able to pre-list Roos' sons via differing means. The player can then select which they want to be considered for, similar to the Danihers being able to select between Essendon and Sydney for father/son selections, or can even select neither ala Marc Murphy. I don't think there has been any hard-and-fast rules publicised about this as yet, so it's merely my reading between the lines at this point.
However, given acadamies are optional to sign up for I kinda expect that if Roos (and Bradshaw) was looking to father/son eligibility he wouldn't have signed up his kids to this additional commitment. Nothing concrete here, just my gut feeling.
LIONHART
14 Jan 2011, 08:03
with roo's boys even if they are with the sydney academy, wouldn't brisbane have first right under father/son, it seems unfair if they don't.
it seems that was the case with wallis and liberatore, the bulldogs had first right of refusal, the daniher boys (darcy & joe) had the choice btwn sydney and essendon, essndon were able to present a case to lure them there. it seems that the viney boy had first choice melbourne.
LIONHART
14 Jan 2011, 08:09
it would be a tragedy if at least one of rooys boys could not continue the legacy at the lions.
it only adds to the pain of having lost him in the first place
3KZ is Football
14 Jan 2011, 08:16
You won't believe this but:D Whitey's boys are absolutely outstanding athletes!
I would believe it you know. Do they have "go go gadget" arms as well?
I hope White has been teaching them to hold the ball above their heads with one hand, Statue of Liberty style, after they have taken a hanger. They need to know this sort of thing.
White was a gun footballer and as they say, "the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree."
with roo's boys even if they are with the sydney academy, wouldn't brisbane have first right under father/son, it seems unfair if they don't.
it seems that was the case with wallis and liberatore, the bulldogs had first right of refusal, the daniher boys (darcy & joe) had the choice btwn sydney and essendon, essndon were able to present a case to lure them there. it seems that the viney boy had first choice melbourne.
it would be a tragedy if at least one of rooys boys could not continue the legacy at the lions.
it only adds to the pain of having lost him in the first place
Father/son doesn't give the club carte blanche to recruit a player. The player can decline the club, as per Marc Murphy. In this case it will be up to the player to decide whether they want to be recruited by Brisbane or Sydney, the clubs have no say in what the player's decision is other than attempting to persuade them.
I suspect Roos' boys will knock back Brisbane and opt for Sydney given Roos signed them up to the Swans academy. As much as it may hurt, it seems like Roos identifies much more as a Swan these days.
Voss the boss
14 Jan 2011, 09:30
unless Voss retires from coaching or is asked to leave....(not saying i would want this)...Roos is appointed and his boys come and play!!! I wonder if he would be the first father to coach his sons in AFL!
BuntonRules
14 Jan 2011, 09:52
Father/son doesn't give the club carte blanche to recruit a player. The player can decline the club, as per Marc Murphy. In this case it will be up to the player to decide whether they want to be recruited by Brisbane or Sydney, the clubs have no say in what the player's decision is other than attempting to persuade them.
I suspect Roos' boys will knock back Brisbane and opt for Sydney given Roos signed them up to the Swans academy. As much as it may hurt, it seems like Roos identifies much more as a Swan these days.
Roos boys grew up in Sydney - and at the Swans - they have no connection to us at all. I, for one would be surprised to see them up here.
Old Den
14 Jan 2011, 10:44
I'm sorry, but I don't understand how this follows. Could someone please explain the standing of "acadamies" in relation to draft rules. If the Swans "draft" them, what picks do they have to use to do so?
I think I don't like these acadamy things.
If the Roos boys are good enough, I would like to see them at Brisbane.
I agree that the Roos boys would most likely prefer Sydney to Brisbane even though not eligible as father/son selections for the Swans but can probably get there through the Swan's Academy.
However the Lions will have an inside run at any outstanding talent that passes through their Academy and in the end it comes down to:
(a) How good the player is.
(b) Does the player want an AFL career.
This is a help for the boys,the Club and the game in not only Queensland but in general as some will inevitably will be drafted by other clubs.
AS advised previously in another thread,Darryl's 2 eldest boys (he has 5) are very talented at sport and the younger of them starred for the Queensland AFL Under 12's in 2010....and both will receive the benefits of the Lion's Academy and are already enrolled.
LIONHART
25 Jan 2011, 13:03
have just discovered that paul roos only played 87 games for sydney, not enough for his sons to go there under father/son. the only way they could go to sydney is through there involvement in the academy, otherwise brisbane get first look in under father/son.
is that correct, or do I get all excited at the prospect for nothing?
Quigley
25 Jan 2011, 13:51
That's correct although the kids could decide (ala Mark Murphy) that they have no interest in going to Brisbane and enter the draft.
have just discovered that paul roos only played 87 games for sydney, not enough for his sons to go there under father/son. the only way they could go to sydney is through there involvement in the academy, otherwise brisbane get first look in under father/son.
is that correct, or do I get all excited at the prospect for nothing?
That is correct.
MSB ROYS
25 Jan 2011, 15:49
That is correct.
You would have to hope that we would be a second choice at least!
footymaad
25 Jan 2011, 16:03
I agree that the Roos boys would most likely prefer Sydney to Brisbane even though not eligible as father/son selections for the Swans but can probably get there through the Swan's Academy.
However the Lions will have an inside run at any outstanding talent that passes through their Academy and in the end it comes down to:
(a) How good the player is.
(b) Does the player want an AFL career.
This is a help for the boys,the Club and the game in not only Queensland but in general as some will inevitably will be drafted by other clubs.
AS advised previously in another thread,Darryl's 2 eldest boys (he has 5) are very talented at sport and the younger of them starred for the Queensland AFL Under 12's in 2010....and both will receive the benefits of the Lion's Academy and are already enrolled.
My understanding is that the academies ability to pre-list local players (using a father son type bid system) doesent start for another 2 years, after drafts with concessions for Gold Coast and GWS. So boys turning 16 this year will be the first group eligible.
Therefore boys turning 17 or 18 this year - ie eligible for the next two drafts - wont be able to be prelisted from academies in NSW or Qld. As at the recent NSW/ACT under 18 state zone trials there was a Dylan Roos (DOB 9/7/94) playing for South Sydney, if he is the oldest Roos boy he may well not be eligible for selection via the Swans Academy. So if hes good enough to be considered for draft in 2012 it might be father son or straight into draft (unless in the 2012 draft there are still specific state concessions for GWS to recruit from NSW, as Gold Coast had from Qld this year?)
LIONHART
27 Jan 2011, 06:56
That's correct although the kids could decide (ala Mark Murphy) that they have no interest in going to Brisbane and enter the draft.
assuming this is correct, would roos' boys have been more interested in going to fitzroy if they were still around, where the families emotional attachment may be stronger than to brisbane where there is no emotional attachment? just curious.
You'd probably have to ask Roos' sons themselves to be sure. :) My assumption is going to be that they're going to the Swans via the academy given what gets reported in the paper down here, what with Roos running the Swans academy and the boys having already signed up. If they do opt for the Lions, I'm prepared to be more than pleasantly surprised.
Fat Pizza
16 Feb 2011, 17:21
Roos' coaching at the Swans may also be taken into account in assessing the eligibility of his sons to be father/son picks.
Roos' coaching at the Swans may also be taken into account in assessing the eligibility of his sons to be father/son picks.
Coaching doesn't count to father/son.
At this stage, which players (current/retired etc) have sons who we can hope have the talent to become future Lions?..
BuntonRules
16 Feb 2011, 20:30
Coaching doesn't count to father/son.
Craig Lambert:confused:
LIONHART
17 Feb 2011, 04:55
At this stage, which players (current/retired etc) have sons who we can hope have the talent to become future Lions?..
darryl white
Craig Lambert:confused:
Not eligible for father/son selection for the Lions, having only played 96 games for the Bears/Lions.
joshhem
17 Feb 2011, 11:45
Vossy! I am totally on the Casey for captain bandwaggon!!!
Vossy! I am totally on the Casey for captain bandwaggon!!!
Supports WC Eagles. Will very likely do a Murphy and put himself in the draft.:rolleyes:
Lace Out
17 Feb 2011, 12:26
I remember reading a poster of Paul Roos in a Fitzroy jumper took pride of place on Dylan Roos' bedroom wall so he will definitely want to play for the Lions...well,at least he wasn't in a Swans jumper
Supports WC Eagles. Will very likely do a Murphy and put himself in the draft.:rolleyes:
:eek: WT.!....How on earth could Michael allow that to happen!!:eek:
Almost treason!!..:(
Fat Pizza
26 Feb 2011, 12:25
Coaching doesn't count to father/son.
That would certainly give the Lions a better chance then.
Monkey Daniel
26 Feb 2011, 12:46
I looked into this a while ago.
Our cupboard is going to be bare for a while. Not many players born in the late 50s or the 60s reached the 100 game mark for Fitzroy and the Bears only had six (for obvious reasons of not existing at the right time). The Brisbane Lions have only had Lynch, who already qualifies because of Fitzroy but only has girls anyway if memory serves.
It's probably not for close to another 5-10 years that you start to get the kids of Fitzroy in the 70s and 80s coming through. It's tricky, because I'm only estimating when these guys are most likely to have kids, I don't actually know whether or not they have or whether they're up to AFL standard.
I'm positive Lynchy has a son called Thomas....
Andrew Bews is another former Bear but I'm not sure if he played 100 games up north, otherwise Geelong will have first dibs on his offspring. Young Jed Bews is coming along quite nicely in the local GFL
Those that played in the 80's/90's will be producing sons coming to the right age to play. Being 2011, born in 1990 makes them 21 and born 1995 and the boy is sweet 16. You'd think the Hawks and to some extent Essendon would start picking up some talent, after all they dominated that 80's era....
LIONHART
31 Mar 2011, 15:06
it was interesting to read in the 'blast from the past' column that jason baldwin has a four yo. 125 games played maybe in 12 years time ... who know!!
Grimreepah
31 Mar 2011, 15:34
Would it be worthwhile compiling a list (father/son/son's birthdate) in the opening post?
whatboutbob
31 Mar 2011, 15:56
Would it be worthwhile compiling a list (father/son/son's birthdate) in the opening post?
Definitely. Good idea.
Last of the Roys
31 Mar 2011, 16:04
They had a little blurb in the Herald Sun the other day with a picture of one of Vossy's sons kicking the footy at the GABBA, and there were some half-joking comments from Dean Warren along the lines that we will make sure he plays for the Lions. I think he is only 10 - given our current list we may need to speed up his development!!!
On another issue, can someone ask our other great current & recently retire players to start having boys instead of girls. Otherwise we might need to invest in IVF sex-selection techniques!
Browny, Power, and now Adcock have all had girls recently. (Actually I think there is some study that has been done that shows athletes are more likely to have girls).
Darryl White will keep us supplied for a while, has a couple of rippers:thumbsu:
LION UP
31 Mar 2011, 20:33
Lamby has 3 boys - do we miss out on them bc he only played 96 games - it's 100 to go father son isn't it? The eldest already had some rep games and the next two good juniors as well.
LIONHART
1 Apr 2011, 06:24
Lamby has 3 boys - do we miss out on them bc he only played 96 games - it's 100 to go father son isn't it? The eldest already had some rep games and the next two good juniors as well.
i think the answer is (sadly!!), yes we do.
in the words of maxwell smart - ... missed by that much.'
We doubly miss out because he's not in Brissy any more. We could've signed them up as academy kids otherwise. :(
whatboutbob
24 May 2011, 09:03
Old article (2006), but seeing as Mitchell Pert (http://www.theage.com.au/news/entertainment/perts-screen-test-worth-watching/2006/11/04/1162340095868.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1) is now draft age (I think)...:
(Gary) Pert's love of Fitzroy has never died. In 2005, he travelled to Brisbane with his father, who played 125 games as a utility between 1954 and 1965, and his son, Mitchell, now 12, to watch the Lions. They were beaten by the Swans by one point and the changing rooms were quiet. Pert remembers seeing Michael Voss, with whom he and his father shared the No.3 jumper. Three generations of Perts were standing at the No.3 locker that bore their names when the current No.3, Lions captain Michael Voss, approached.
"He came out of a team meeting where Leigh Matthews had ripped them apart, ice bags all over him, all banged up," Pert says now. "I said, 'We'll just get out of here', but he recognised us and said 'No, stay'. He wanted to meet Dad and Mitchell and he posed for pictures, had a long chat. He is one of the great gentlemen."
A third generation would be nice. Wonder if he's been corrupted by the Pies in the ensuing years?
LIONHART
24 May 2011, 10:23
what type of player is mitchell pert, and is he a realisitic chance to be considered under father/son.
if he is like his father (ie can play forward or back) he could be an asset
does anyone have any idea about this?
Do we actually know if he's been playing footy at school/TAC level at all...?
whatboutbob
24 May 2011, 11:12
Do we actually know if he's been playing footy at school/TAC level at all...?
Google says he's on the Oakleigh Chargers list (http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=10&ved=0CEwQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportingpulse.com%2Fget_file.cgi%3Fid%3 D1287606&rct=j&q=%22mitch%20pert%22&ei=7vzaTbKHD4_jrAeA1NDZDg&usg=AFQjCNHNj0l_MxcQ_g1rIA5SZKU4x8qzOw&cad=rja) (if that link does work the extension needs to be renamed).
#57 Born 28/08/94 186cm 82kg Glen Iris JFC / Scotch College
He appears to have played as a "utility" for the "Glen Iris Gladiators" (http://www.gijfc.com/) from 12 through 15 (where his dad also coached).
He also appears to be play basketball - "U19 Div 1" for the Hawthorn Basketball Association. This is starting to feel a bit icky so Imma gonna stop.
jackess
24 May 2011, 11:16
This is starting to feel a bit icky so Imma gonna stop.
I find this thread a bit perverse to be honest.
If they are playing decent footy at under 16/18 level or state comps maybe there should be an interest.
whatboutbob
24 May 2011, 11:30
I find this thread a bit perverse to be honest.
If they are playing decent footy at under 16/18 level or state comps maybe there should be an interest.
Mmm. Point taken.
Football Pope
24 May 2011, 12:17
Lamby has 3 boys - do we miss out on them bc he only played 96 games - it's 100 to go father son isn't it? The eldest already had some rep games and the next two good juniors as well.
The eligibility differs depending upon the home state of the team making the father/son selection..The minimum 100 senior games is applied to Victorian clubs..Brisbane Lions and Sydney Swans can choose the sons of players who have appeared 100 times for either themselves or their predecessors.
I might be wrong, but I understood the father/son rule as being a contribution made to a club..The games as an senior assistant coach (under officiating) could be added to his 96 games played..
Sons of former AFL players can play with the same club their father played or officiated with under the father/son rule. The main eligibility requirement is that the son’s father must have played 100 games.The rule is designed to continue the traditions of association that a family has with a particular club.
Link-AFL Site-draft (http://www.afl.com.au/about/tabid/13514/default.aspx)
Someone should hop on Twitter and ask Emma Quayle if she knows if Mitchell's on our radar. :)
I dispute that we should only pay attention if they're playing decent high level footy. A lot of the other clubs put effort into developing the kids who are father/son eligible where possible because it is one of the few areas that a good program can gain an advantage.
Antman78
31 May 2011, 23:51
I get the gist, if we know that we are going to take them regardless, makes sense to start the ball rolling early, guess if you get them on the path early i.e skills, training and good habits it could provide an avantage and fast track development.
BuntonRules
1 Jun 2011, 17:25
I get the gist, if we know that we are going to take them regardless, makes sense to start the ball rolling early, guess if you get them on the path early i.e skills, training and good habits it could provide an avantage and fast track development.
Just look at Footscray. Young Libba & Wallace are at least a year in front of other draftees, purely because they have been in the club's system for the last couple.
mickeyblueeyes37
2 Jun 2011, 12:53
Whoops I read the article wrong so Mitchell Pert is 17, so he might be right.Apparently he is a key position back men well that is what I heard on our fb page,can't remember who was telling us that but will get back to you all.
LavanRuban
2 Jun 2011, 21:26
Maybe blokes like Gaz Ablett Jnr and Chris Judd and Dane Swan, their kids will probably be guns. It's in their blood.
LIONHART
13 Jul 2011, 10:38
does anyone know whether mitchell pert is a realistic chance under father/son for next years draft.
if he is let's hope he wants to come to brisbane, and he doesn't do a marc murphy on us.
also read where jackson coleman could be drafted this year, alas, his old man Glenn didn't play enough games for fitzroy to qualify under father/son. he played enough collectively but not individually for any of the clubs he played for.
Last of the Roys
13 Jul 2011, 13:23
I love the Father/Son rule. It is a great way to keep tradition and loyalty involved in footy.
However, I wish they would reduce the number of eligible games required. Given there is now a somewhat competitive bidding system.
At the very least it should be reverted to the 50 game minimum that gave us Jonathan Brown. I gather now we would have to give up a first round draft pick for him, so it negates some of the extreme benefits that the old system had.
So that should surely mean that there is not much problem in reducing the minimum game requirements back to what it once was.
LIONHART
14 Jul 2011, 12:45
I love the Father/Son rule. It is a great way to keep tradition and loyalty involved in footy.
However, I wish they would reduce the number of eligible games required. Given there is now a somewhat competitive bidding system.
At the very least it should be reverted to the 50 game minimum that gave us Jonathan Brown. I gather now we would have to give up a first round draft pick for him, so it negates some of the extreme benefits that the old system had.
So that should surely mean that there is not much problem in reducing the minimum game requirements back to what it once was.
even more so given the advent of free trade and the expansion of new teams, it is going to be less and less likely that players will play as much as 100 games with the one club. the number of one club players will continue to reduce rapidly.
You will get more of the likes of Glenn Coleman who played 60+ games for three clubs, his son doesn't qualify for any of the three clubs his old man played because he played less than 100 at each.
LIONHART
11 Aug 2011, 15:43
is anyone keeping an eye on Liam McIvor mentioned in dad Scott's Blast from the Past segment, currently playing footy in brisabne
200 games accumulative with fitzroy, bears and lions, may be a potential get under father/son
we need to be aware of these things and keeping an eye out for them
I'd be shocked if the club wasn't, given the interest that goes into father/son selections these days. Just us fans that may not be.
The Flying Belgian
15 Aug 2011, 17:47
Was a little snippet on Channel 10 news Brisbane with Darryl White defending Vossy. It went on to mention how his two eldest boys looked like being likely father-son selections
How old are his kids? If anyone has seem them play be interested to know how similar or different they are to their dad.
TheBrownDog
16 Aug 2011, 12:25
Was a little snippet on Channel 10 news Brisbane with Darryl White defending Vossy. It went on to mention how his two eldest boys looked like being likely father-son selections
Article in the Courier Mail today about Darryl's sons. They prefer basketball but are keeping their options open.
C'mon boys... footy > basketball!
Quigley
16 Aug 2011, 12:33
Very little money in basketball nower days unless you can make it overseas. Much better sticking with AFL.
thoselionslads
17 Aug 2011, 10:45
How old are his kids? If anyone has seem them play be interested to know how similar or different they are to their dad.
Quite similar to their old man in the way they go about it on the footy field.
Bucking Beads
17 Aug 2011, 11:14
Would be bloody nice for us to start getting some quality father son prospects rather than losing them to Carltank..
Would love Whitey to be involved in the club again. Would also love if his boys play for us.:thumbsu:
He is fantastic to listen to on 98.9 on a friday night. Knows his stuff too , picked us to win last week by over 6 goals.
He kills some of the big name commentators with his knowledge of the game and how he expresses himself:heart::footy:
lionshine
17 Aug 2011, 21:09
Darryl White was in my Top 5 favorite players during the glory days:heart::) Hopefully his Sons can play for us one day and do the same:D
LIONHART
12 Sep 2011, 13:14
when we see marc murphy take a game apart as he did yesterday, should we be lamenting the father/son that got away. i know at the end of the day he didn't want to relocate to brisbane, but should have that deterred us from doing everything we could to get him.
is john & marc murphy the best father/son combo since the abletts?
notting18
12 Sep 2011, 13:18
when we see marc murphy take a game apart as he did yesterday, should we be lamenting the father/son that got away. i know at the end of the day he didn't want to relocate to brisbane, but should have that deterred us from doing everything we could to get him.
is john & marc murphy the best father/son combo since the abletts?
We did everything we could to get him. We offered him a long term deal, wined and dined him, etc. He still didn't want to come.
I'm willing to say the Lions did do everything they could to get him. We just about bent over backwards including offering a large third year contract (once he was out of the rookie contract) and other perks. If someone doesn't want to come and has other options, such is life.
LIONHART
12 Sep 2011, 13:27
hypothetically, i wonder if he would've come if fitzroy had still been around
i guess we'll never know.
notting18
12 Sep 2011, 14:28
hypothetically, i wonder if he would've come if fitzroy had still been around
i guess we'll never know.
He would have. His big issues were moving from Melbourne to Brisbane and that his father never truly accepted the merger. Both of those are overcome if the merger never happened.
Football Pope
12 Sep 2011, 20:02
He would have. His big issues were moving from Melbourne to Brisbane and that his father never truly accepted the merger. Both of those are overcome if the merger never happened.
IIRC at the time the Assistant Coaches at Oakleigh charges under John Lamont were pretty well all ex Carlton players...In 2005 Rohan Welsh took over as senior coach... giving a clean sweep..
During that time C Croad, Prendergast, Thornton, Carrazzo, DeLuca & Murphy all ended up at the Blues....
Last of the Roys
14 Sep 2011, 10:12
hypothetically, i wonder if he would've come if fitzroy had still been around
i guess we'll never know.
I know the Lions did everything they could to get him on board. We certainly got Browny and the boys to try to convince him to come, etc.
John Murphy didn't really support the merger, but the overwhelming factor in Marc not moving is because he didn't want to leave his friends and family in Melbourne.
I believe Marc even said at the time that if the team was based in Melbourne then he would have played for the Lions.
Nevertheless, I still like calling him 'traitor' whenever the Lions play the Blues.
is john & marc murphy the best father/son combo since the abletts?
John's dad Leo won a B&F at Hawthorn as well, so I think we can confidently say they are the best grandfather-father-son combo of all time!
The Flying Belgian
14 Sep 2011, 11:25
We did everything we could to get him. We offered him a long term deal, wined and dined him, etc. He still didn't want to come.
It was joked at the time that Craig Lambert had set up a tent outside his house. Save inventing some Duck Dodgers in the 24th-and-a-half century teleoporter to allow him to commute to and from Melbourne I'm pretty sure we gave it our best shot.
Monkey Daniel
8 Oct 2011, 12:46
Cats are set to name Jed Bews son of Andrew under father/son. Unless another team offers up a bid for him, the Cats will pick him up with their last draft pick.
It'd be nice if we threw our hat into the ring.
Kojihama
8 Oct 2011, 13:50
Cats are set to name Jed Bews son of Andrew under father/son. Unless another team offers up a bid for him, the Cats will pick him up with their last draft pick.
It'd be nice if we threw our hat into the ring.
Why don't we pick him up under F/S?
whatboutbob
8 Oct 2011, 14:00
Why don't we pick him up under F/S?
Not eligible as Bews only played 75 games for us (100 required).
Kojihama
8 Oct 2011, 20:02
Not eligible as Bews only played 75 games for us (100 required).
Damn shame! Seem's like the Lions lose out quite a bit with F/S.
Bobby Beecroft
8 Oct 2011, 20:18
It was joked at the time that Craig Lambert had set up a tent outside his house. Save inventing some Duck Dodgers in the 24th-and-a-half century teleoporter to allow him to commute to and from Melbourne I'm pretty sure we gave it our best shot.
I was at a local GF that Marcs brother Leigh was playing in some years ago & Yes Craig Lambert did make an appearance. Leigh was wearing a lovely pair of white boots kindly donated by one M Voss.
The only thing the Lions didn't do was make sure Leighs side actually won the match. The Lions did go to extreme efforts to entice Marc north.
LIONHART
11 Nov 2011, 08:09
lachlan black (son of simon) father/son to brisbane lions 2028.
who else is salivating in anticipation at the prospect of that happening?
Always a Lion
11 Nov 2011, 10:42
Father and son may be playing in the same side if Black keeps his form up.
Surely they'd have to be the first F/S combo to do so in the AFL/VFL, wouldn't they?
Hammo will still be shouting blue murder cause the Lions'll still be offering Blacky one year contracts!
Sammy94
11 Nov 2011, 11:31
I believe Casey Voss is around 14 years old so he might get the chance to be coached by his old man if Vossy (Michael) is still around in a few years.
joshhem
11 Nov 2011, 12:17
I believe Casey Voss is around 14 years old so he might get the chance to be coached by his old man if Vossy (Michael) is still around in a few years.
This bandwagon I am on!!
Apparently Casey is not setting the world on fire at the moment in the juniors..still he is only a kid, should not be placed under any external pressure.
chopperduck
11 Nov 2011, 13:24
Is hard not to have expectation on you when your the son of a legend of the game. Kinda feel sorry for Casey.
TheBrownDog
22 Feb 2012, 21:21
Article in my local newspaper (South-East Advertiser) today about Darryl White's boys. Sounds like they are going full tilt with the basketball now. Starting to make a name for themselves in various rep sides.
Football not even part of the equation it seems.
IanHaso84
22 Feb 2012, 21:42
There have been cases of basketballers jumping over to footy, though.
LIONHART
23 Feb 2012, 05:21
Article in my local newspaper (South-East Advertiser) today about Darryl White's boys. Sounds like they are going full tilt with the basketball now. Starting to make a name for themselves in various rep sides.
Football not even part of the equation it seems.
This would be a tragedy for the club if it happens, he has three boys doesn't he? realistic to expect that you would get one. hopefully the best one
Someone needs to get alongside that boy (the best one) & work hard at convincing him to stick with footy
lionshine
23 Feb 2012, 08:01
This would be a tragedy for the club if it happens, he has three boys doesn't he? realistic to expect that you would get one. hopefully the best one
Someone needs to get alongside that boy (the best one) & work hard at convincing him to stick with footyNo they don't! If the boy is playing basketball well and he is enjoying it than let him play basketball. I think you are having a very selfish view of things on this matter.
No they don't! If the boy is playing basketball well and he is enjoying it than let him play basketball. I think you are having a very selfish view of things on this matter.
I'm with lionshine on this one (I'll take things I never thought I'd say for $100... ;)). If the kids choose footy, then hopefully we'd be at them to choose the Lions. But trying to get them choose footy when they prefer other sports is just a road to failure from both the kids and the club's perspective as they'll never be as keen at it as others.
thoselionslads
23 Feb 2012, 12:32
DJ has always been adamant they are better at basketball than footy.
If we can be patient, Kobe is the one to keep an eye out for. I feel ridiculous for even saying this considering he is about 6, but he can do things some things 10 year olds can't.
How old is Casey Voss these days?