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Just a quick note to congratulate Woosha on a fine job of coaching this year.
As I said in a thread earlier in the year both Woosha and Roos deserve SERIOUS consideration for coach of the year honours.
Best of luck for 2004.
I think Roos deserves it. On paper Sydney look ordinary compared to the Eagles, but Roos has got the most out of them.
Woosha should have done better with the cattle he has got.
A 100% finals strike rate. No other coach in the league has that, not even Roos.
Originally posted by Exeter
In what way Jabber?
Getting us further up the ladder would be a good start ;)
Seriously though, I don't think Woosha explored many options in the big man department when we needed them badly. He has been far too conservative in team selection, like the Haynes dud @ FF one he keeps rolling out. Also giving someone like Seirakowski game time ahead of Lynch this year is just playing it safe to the extreme.
Personally I think Woosha has done a reasonably good job. With the injurys we've had, he's done well just to get us into the finals. If you look back on the year, theres really only a few games were we've seriously been VERY bad. He has done well, and I believe he'll improve next year and the year after and become one of the coaching greats ala Sheedy and Malthouse.
Black JuJu
10 Sep 2003, 19:56
Better with the cattle he has ?
Trust me with this "cattle" this is close to as good as we are.
Maybe a place or 2 higher but seriously, there are at least 4 sides in this league clearly better and another 2 or so that also have stronger lists.
How things change. Before the PA match, we had been a top 4 side for pretty much the entire season- a win that week would have put us on top of the ladder. Instead, we got a nice heap of injuries, and never had anything resembling our best 22 out on the park for the rest of the year.
I don't think there are more than a couple of sides who are 'clearly' better than us out there- our best 22 took on and beat Port, Bris and Collingwood by healthy margins, whilst we went down to Sydney by a narrow margin at the SCG, also without Gardiner.
The reality is that Woosha is a good coach and we are a good team- if we have a fault, its that our game plan is one dimensional- thats not to say it doesn't work extremely well, but our reliance on a few players made us very vulnerable to injuries.
On coach of the year, though, it'd be a travesty if Roos doesn't win it. What he has done with the Swans is pretty unbelievable.
Black Thunder
10 Sep 2003, 22:25
Roos will have to get coach of the year, but for those who are critical of Woosh, look back in time 2 years and see were we were, and see we're we are and where we are going now.....Woosha has been nothing short of fantastic.
Originally posted by Sera
A 100% finals strike rate. No other coach in the league has that, not even Roos.
Actually, as a coach he has
woosha's been good this year and i rate his performance given the lack of depth u have. (similar to ours).
got the best out his best 22 and injuries at the wrong time do tell.
like i said.... best of for 2004 .
Whoosha IMO has been nothing short of sensational. We pretty much have the same list as Judge had 2 years ago yet Whoosha can turn potential (Embers, Fletch and Gardy) into superstars. He is a great coach but Roos should beat him for COTY honours this season. If the injury crisis hadnt hit then Im sure the Eagles would have finished top 4 and it would be hard to overlook Worsfold for COTY.
Maybe next year. Good luck to the Swans, hope they win the flag, I hope anyone wins the flag as long as they stop Collingwood or Essendon winning!
Originally posted by jod23
Maybe next year. Good luck to the Swans, hope they win the flag, I hope anyone wins the flag as long as they stop Collingwood or Essendon winning!
I'm pretty much barracking for Sydney, at this stage.
The thinking is as follows. If Collingwood or Essendon wins it, there supporters, coaches and ****y CEOs will be intolerable. I can't handle an off season of McGuire smugness, or 'all hail the great footy god Sheedy'.
Port are next club which I'd really not like to win. Partly, tall poppy, i guess, partly displeasure at how dirty they were when we played, but mainly just wanting to see Mark 'gimp' Williams get his comeuppance.
Which leaves, Brisbane, Adelaide and Sydney. The first two of these clubs have both won a couple of flags each, just like us, and I'd prefer if neither got there hands on a third flag before West Coast, the trail blazing interstate side, did.
That leaves Sydney. I like the way they play their footy, rate Kirk and Goodes very highly indeed, and was very impressed by the clinical way they showed up Port last weekend. Add to that that a Sydney win would probably be 'good for footy' in NSW or what have you, and it seems the logical choice.
so, in order of most want to win to least want to win=
1. Sydney
2. Adelaide
3. Brisbane
4. Essendon
5. Port Adelaide
6. Collingwood
Originally posted by Mead
I'm pretty much barracking for Sydney, at this stage.
The thinking is as follows. If Collingwood or Essendon wins it, there supporters, coaches and ****y CEOs will be intolerable. I can't handle an off season of McGuire smugness, or 'all hail the great footy god Sheedy'.
Port are next club which I'd really not like to win. Partly, tall poppy, i guess, partly displeasure at how dirty they were when we played, but mainly just wanting to see Mark 'gimp' Williams get his comeuppance.
Which leaves, Brisbane, Adelaide and Sydney. The first two of these clubs have both won a couple of flags each, just like us, and I'd prefer if neither got there hands on a third flag before West Coast, the trail blazing interstate side, did.
That leaves Sydney. I like the way they play their footy, rate Kirk and Goodes very highly indeed, and was very impressed by the clinical way they showed up Port last weekend. Add to that that a Sydney win would probably be 'good for footy' in NSW or what have you, and it seems the logical choice.
so, in order of most want to win to least want to win=
1. Sydney
2. Adelaide
3. Brisbane
4. Essendon
5. Port Adelaide
6. Collingwood
I was just talking about that to a friend the other day. About how I didnt want Adelaide or Brisbane to win because they would become the most successful interstate side of all time. That is currently WC's mantle so I dont want to be knocked off that. Cant stand Essendon and Collingwood so Im going for Port and Sydney. Dont really hate POrt that much, yeah they were dirty but ive seen worse.
Originally posted by Syd
Actually, as a coach he has
Nah, he coached last year and didn't take them to a finals series. Even if it was only for half a year.
Goldenblue
11 Sep 2003, 10:47
Originally posted by jod23
About how I didnt want Adelaide or Brisbane to win because they would become the most successful interstate side of all time. That is currently WC's mantle so I dont want to be knocked off that.
Mmmm, I would have thought Adelaide and Brisbane would hold that title now due to the back to backs they won.
If we did not hiccup in 93, we may have had a hat-trick of flags.
Originally posted by Goldenblue
Mmmm, I would have thought Adelaide and Brisbane would hold that title now due to the back to backs they won.
If we did not hiccup in 93, we may have had a hat-trick of flags.
Both are still well behind in the number of finals played and consistency in finishing in the top 8.
carneagles
11 Sep 2003, 11:43
What Mead said.
Black Thunder
11 Sep 2003, 13:19
if Sydney win, I'll neck myself
it's bad enough living in this town when the swans play half decent football.....
Originally posted by Black Thunder
if Sydney win, I'll neck myself
it's bad enough living in this town when the swans play half decent football.....
Can't be that bad - Try Adelaide for bull**** media hype [shudders]
3 years in a row of salary cap cheats winning the flag. Sydney can **** off.
be great for the game in sydney too, a swans premiership. we've got thugby hurting now and a few seasons with the swans in the top bracket will only help matters.
GoEagles
13 Sep 2003, 02:25
Woosha has done a great job from taking the team as a rabble to being a potential genuine finals threat. I'd still be very suprised if Roos doesn't get the AA-Coach gig this year.
And yes, I've decided to jump on the Swans bangwagon for the finals. If I was 90, living in Sydney and senile I'm sure I'd be part of the "Swannies Granny" army that sit behind the goals at the SCG and wave scarfs at the goal umpires.
Woosha has been excellent. A few injuries to key players can decimate a side. Look how Brisbane played when they had injuries, they were a shadow of themselves, yet now they are looking good again.
Roos has done brilliantly but I think Brisbane will beat them. For me Port and Brisbane are still the two best sides. Collingwood, Adelaide, Sydney and WCE are the next bunch and there's not much between them with fit lists.
Although hard and having a few star players and top coach I don't think the Bombers are as good a side as Freo and Saints who would fill out my best eight.