View Full Version : Yze asks for trade!!!
chiliboy
16 Sep 2003, 01:20
Strong word going round late this afternoon that Adem Yze has asked to be traded to another Victorian based Club..
This would be a huge shock..
Don't stress yet demon fans, its still only a whisper..
However, if done well, the demons could use this to drawe much needed toughness to the playing list..
No rumours as too where he would go yet, but im sure we will hear more of that in the coming days...IF indeed this is the case..
Falconer02
16 Sep 2003, 01:28
Good maybe Bowden for Yze very similar players.
Yze and White for Jacobs and Solomon/Peverille.
Yze_Magic
16 Sep 2003, 01:29
Originally posted by chiliboy
Strong word going round late this afternoon that Adem Yze has asked to be traded to another Victorian based Club..
This would be a huge shock..
Don't stress yet demon fans, its still only a whisper..
However, if done well, the demons could use this to drawe much needed toughness to the playing list..
No rumours as too where he would go yet, but im sure we will hear more of that in the coming days...IF indeed this is the case..
no way
bacon buster
16 Sep 2003, 01:29
don't want yze
and definitely don't want to lose solly
Yze and White for Jacobs and Solomon/Peverille.
F*** off...i dont want that soft c*ck playing for us. Especially at the expense of solomon.
Yze_Magic
16 Sep 2003, 01:30
Originally posted by Falconer02
Good maybe Bowden for Yze very similar players.
Yze and White for Jacobs and Solomon/Peverille.
Yze is a freak
please do not compare him to bowden
yze is an All Australian wingman, matchwinning midfielder, magnificent kick of the footy
bowden is a soft dud
Yze_Magic
16 Sep 2003, 01:31
Originally posted by Falconer02
Good maybe Bowden for Yze very similar players.
Yze and White for Jacobs and Solomon/Peverille.
that would put the Demons back about 10 years
Solomon, Jacobs, peverill.. decent players
yze and White.. matchwinners
Yze_Magic
16 Sep 2003, 01:32
Originally posted by marcuz
F*** off...i dont want that soft c*ck playing for us. Especially at the expense of solomon.
you may not want him, but I can guarantee you Sheedy would
Not for solomon he wouldnt
bacon buster
16 Sep 2003, 01:34
i can guarantee you he wouldn't
how old is he now?
26-27?
i'm suprised you wouldn't want solomon, when it's obvious your teams needs some grunt
Broadbridge_20
16 Sep 2003, 01:35
Originally posted by chiliboy
However, if done well, the demons could use this to drawe much needed toughness to the playing list..
Jeff White, Russell Robertson, Brad Green and Chris Heffernan can be used to draw toughness to the playing list.
Losing Yze would kill us.
This better be bull****.
chiliboy
16 Sep 2003, 01:36
I agree with yze magic..
White and Yze are matchwinners, solomon solid, but not a match winner, with some inside mid fielders around him, Yze would destroy sides week in week out..
He would demand a big trade!!
Yze_Magic
16 Sep 2003, 01:36
Originally posted by bacon buster
i can guarantee you he wouldn't
how old is he now?
26-27?
i'm suprised you wouldn't want solomon, when it's obvious your teams needs some grunt
he turns 26 this month
who said i wouldnt want Solomon? id love him
but for Yze? be realisitc
yze is about 3 rungs above him when it comes to playing footy
he turns 26 this month
who said i wouldnt want Solomon? id love him
but for Yze? be realisitc
yze is about 3 rungs above him when it comes to playing footy
Yze has much better foot skills than solly.
Solly is stronger(can bench press 165kgs to be strongest at the club)
Faster, tougher.
Solly doesnt need to have the football to make an impact. Yze does.
We have ramanauskas who is similar to yze and also 4 years younger.
chiliboy
16 Sep 2003, 01:47
Your saying ramaskaus is as good as Yze??
Mate, your dreaming!!
Solomon a straight swap for Yze??
GET REAL!!!
It is time Essendon supporters woke up!!!
Falconer02
16 Sep 2003, 01:49
Originally posted by chiliboy
Your saying ramaskaus is as good as Yze??
Mate, your dreaming!!
Solomon a straight swap for Yze??
GET REAL!!!
It is time Essendon supporters woke up!!!
Chilliboy I see your from Eltham do you know my cousin Skye Valve
chiliboy
16 Sep 2003, 01:52
Originally posted by Falconer02
Chilliboy I see your from Eltham do you know my cousin Skye Valve
cant say i do.. its a big place ya know..
Your saying ramaskaus is as good as Yze??
Mate, your dreaming!!
Solomon a straight swap for Yze??
GET REAL!!!
It is time Essendon supporters woke up!!!
Am i reading the same thread because i havent seen that said.
I said rama is similar in the way he plays. and he is better by a ****ing street. Yze takes dinky little handballs around the back and kicks it 50 metres to stuff all. Rama breaks the lines with speed and kicks it 60 into the forward line. Only his cancer scare stopped him from winning our b+f
Melbourne has nobody on their list that we would trade to give away solly. He brings too much to our side.
chiliboy
16 Sep 2003, 01:54
Originally posted by marcuz
Am i reading the same thread because i havent seen that said.
I said rama is similar in the way he plays. and he is better by a ****ing street. Yze takes dinky little handballs around the back and kicks it 50 metres to stuff all. Rama breaks the lines with speed and kicks it 60 into the forward line. Only his cancer scare stopped him from winning our b+f
Melbourne has nobody on their list that we would trade to give away solly. He brings too much to our side.
oh, ok I get it, YOUR INSANE!!!!!!!
oh, ok I get it, YOUR INSANE!!!!!!!
No id be right on the money. This is coming from a supporter of a club who thinks they got a star in chris heffernan.
Chris Heffernan a star? Now who is insane?
chiliboy
16 Sep 2003, 02:03
Originally posted by marcuz
No id be right on the money. This is coming from a supporter of a club who thinks they got a star in chris heffernan.
Chris Heffernan a star? Now who is insane?
no one said he was a star mate, now your getting further off the way!!
bacon buster
16 Sep 2003, 02:07
Originally posted by chiliboy
Your saying ramaskaus is as good as Yze??
Mate, your dreaming!!
better
and do you think we would do a straight swap of solomon for yze?
solomon is the type of player you need to win a premiership, yze is just the icing on the cake
chiliboy
16 Sep 2003, 02:17
BOMBERS FANS,
YOU KNOW WAT, I THINK SAM HUNT IS A BTTER PLAYER THAN NEITZ, WANNA TRADE??
Broadbridge_20
16 Sep 2003, 02:29
If Yze ever became available Sheedy would be all over a straight swap for Solomon. He'd almost take him for Solomon + Jacobs.
SCRAY72
16 Sep 2003, 10:22
When was the last time Jeff White gave the Dees a matchwinning performance?
If Yze ever became available Sheedy would be all over a straight swap for Solomon. He'd almost take him for Solomon + Jacobs.
:rolleyes: You need a balance in your side. Agressive players like solly dont grow on trees.
When was the last time Jeff White gave the Dees a matchwinning performance?
When was the last time anybody on the demons list apart from neitz gave a matchwinning performance
Outoftheblue
16 Sep 2003, 10:37
With all these match-winners on their list, tell me again how Melbourne lost 17 games this year.
When was the last time Jeff White gave the Dees a matchwinning performance?
Take a look at his stats for the first 5 rds this year before he injured his knee against WCE.
Round Date vs. K H P M HO T FF FA G B
ROUND 1 30/03/2003 Hawthorn 12 6 18 11 17 2 0 1 0 0
ROUND 2 05/04/2003 Essendon 6 12 18 5 19 0 1 0 0 1
ROUND 3 13/04/2003 Western Bulldogs 14 6 20 10 14 0 2 2 3 0
ROUND 4 19/04/2003 Geelong 11 13 24 7 11 0 3 1 0 0
ROUND 5 25/04/2003 Sydney 9 8 17 9 28 1 1 0 3 0
Many people are really underrating White. Yes, he is injury prone, but when he is fit he can be as damaging as any other ruckman in the league. I hope we keep him because next year if he stays reasonably injury free he will give AA ruckman a shake again.
chiliboy
16 Sep 2003, 10:52
No one is saying Melbourne is a better side than essendon, all I am saying is that Yze has the ability to swing a match, so too white..
And i'd say Travis Johnstone is another, when he is on fire, we are unstoppable, we just need to get our stars fit!!
eastaugh36
16 Sep 2003, 12:51
Originally posted by marcuz
:rolleyes: You need a balance in your side. Agressive players like solly dont grow on trees.
Agreed.
superstar
16 Sep 2003, 12:55
Originally posted by chiliboy
No one is saying Melbourne is a better side than essendon, all I am saying is that Yze has the ability to swing a match, so too white..
And i'd say Travis Johnstone is another, when he is on fire, we are unstoppable, we just need to get our stars fit!!
The problem is that YZe and Johnstone are two of the biggest receivers in the game. Unless someone is feeding them cherries, they can't have an influence. I'd have Solomon over either of them, for sure.
dougthelegend
16 Sep 2003, 13:12
Solly would not be traded for Yze, we need a good midfielder yes - but solly at 23 is a required player for the future, we'd be trading a KP player before we trade solomon.
Jacobs, Bolton, Henneman and draft picks would all be available in a trade for Yze, not Solomon.
electricsix
16 Sep 2003, 13:30
ramanuaskas is better than yze
can use non-dominant side has a massive vertical leap and is quicker
also as noted is 4 years younger
yze like bowden is overrated; he goes missing in finals
Yze_Magic
16 Sep 2003, 13:48
Originally posted by electricsix
ramanuaskas is better than yze
can use non-dominant side has a massive vertical leap and is quicker
also as noted is 4 years younger
yze like bowden is overrated; he goes missing in finals
yze was BOG in the first final last year, had 31 disposals and 2 goals and was simply dominant
week later he was in our best again, 22 disposals in the loss to Adelaide
bucksisbest
16 Sep 2003, 14:02
Source for this rumour?
Broadbridge_20
16 Sep 2003, 14:17
Originally posted by marcuz
:rolleyes: You need a balance in your side. Agressive players like solly dont grow on trees.
You're kidding yourself if you think Solomon has more value on the open market than Adem Yze. Mark Johnson would be closer to the mark.
dougthelegend
16 Sep 2003, 14:20
Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
You're kidding yourself if you think Solomon has more value on the open market than Adem Yze. Mark Johnson would be closer to the mark.
who cares what they'd fetch on the open market, i'd take solomon every day of the week.
Broadbridge_20
16 Sep 2003, 14:23
Originally posted by dougthelegend
who cares what they'd fetch on the open market, i'd take solomon every day of the week.
Your coach wouldnt
bacon buster
16 Sep 2003, 14:25
Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
You're kidding yourself if you think Solomon has more value on the open market than Adem Yze. Mark Johnson would be closer to the mark.
i don't think he meant that at all
in terms of balance for our team, we would NOT trade solomon for yze
bacon buster
16 Sep 2003, 14:26
Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
Your coach wouldnt
yes he would. solomon is one of sheedy's favourites.
he is not a big fan of outside players like yze
Broadbridge_20
16 Sep 2003, 14:32
Originally posted by bacon buster
he is not a big fan of outside players like yze
So why are you chasing Nick Stevens then? Stevens isn't a quarter of the player Adem Yze is.
So why are you chasing Nick Stevens then? Stevens isn't a quarter of the player Adem Yze is.
What the **** have you been smoking? yze better than stevens.....ive heard it all now.
Essendon arent chasing anybody. We dont have the room in our cap. All these rumours are just that.
The ball is kicked into space yze and solomon head after it, who comes back with the footy?......id back solly nine times outa ten. Thats called getting a contested possesion, a word foreign to the melbourne midfield
scooter600x
16 Sep 2003, 14:51
Originally posted by marcuz
The ball is kicked into space yze and solomon head after it, who comes back with the footy?......id back solly nine times outa ten.
Who would then turn it over and the ball would come back to Yze who would burn you.
Sorry, Marcuz, Solly's not in the same class.
PS. Solly has also turned down 2 contracts which means he is either trying to screw you (when he knows there's no money and he can't) so he wants to go; or Essendon have offered him way under the odds and the only reason they would do that is if they wanted to trade him.
Either way, it sounds like Solly will go to me.
Broadbridge_20
16 Sep 2003, 14:55
Originally posted by marcuz
What the **** have you been smoking? yze better than stevens.....ive heard it all now.
The ball is kicked into space yze and solomon head after it, who comes back with the footy?......id back solly nine times outa ten. Thats called getting a contested possesion, a word foreign to the melbourne midfield
Nick Stevens is an overrated whining bitch. The reciever of all recievers.
I agree with you on your last point, we need to recruit ballwinners but not for a player of Yzes class. I've heard fairly reliable whispers anyway that Solomon was offered to Melbourne for 2 players who have struggled to make our best 22.
That's how highly your coach rates him.
Broadbridge_20
16 Sep 2003, 14:57
Originally posted by scooter600x
Who would then turn it over and the ball would come back to Yze who would burn you.
Absoloutely spot on.
Who would then turn it over and the ball would come back to Yze who would burn you.
Sorry, Marcuz, Solly's not in the same class.
Solly would handball it to rama who would put it lace out on Lloyds chest. Who gives a **** about class. You need strong bodies in midfield to compliment your recievers. Thats why we do so well against melb...we beat them up and solly is a big reason for it.
PS. Solly has also turned down 2 contracts which means he is either trying to screw you (when he knows there's no money and he can't) so he wants to go; or Essendon have offered him way under the odds and the only reason they would do that is if they wanted to trade him.
Either way, it sounds like Solly will go to me.
Its called negotiating......He is holding out for the best deal possible. We dont let important players leave our club. Wanganeen wanted to go home. Fortunately broken hill doesnt have a team in the afl. He is going nowhere
no1bankteller
16 Sep 2003, 16:37
Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
You're kidding yourself if you think Solomon has more value on the open market than Adem Yze. Mark Johnson would be closer to the mark.
I am an Eagles supporter and two players that I do rate are Solomom and M Johnson. I would have both of those players ahead of Yze.
Yze is a pure receiver who does get loads of posessions does not use them as well as he should and is very soft in a contest.
Solomon uses intimidation and toughness to win contests and is a good kick and a great mark for his size.
M Johnson is just a gun with extreame toughness. One word of caution on M johnson is that he can play a bit like Buddah Hocking from Geelong, ie out of control and become too aggressive at times, he may need to be rained in a bit so he only focuses on the footy.
Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
Nick Stevens is an overrated whining bitch. The reciever of all recievers.
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Absolute trash.
[B][QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Broadbull****_20[\i]
I've heard fairly reliable whispers anyway that Solomon was offered to Melbourne for 2 players who have struggled to make our best 22.
That is the dumbest thing I have heard in a long, long time. Are you friends with the Port supporters on here?
jivinivan
16 Sep 2003, 17:22
Having read all this stuff about Solly, Oooze and Rama (three good original nicknames by the way) all these players have equal value to their own sides. Solly is a good tough player with awesome skills, love it when he drills players with spearing passes. Oooze is one of if not the most loved players at Melbourne, and has absolutely esquisite skills. Unfortunately he had an ordinary year (along with the majority of Melb players) and his skills have come under question by many of you on this subject. Ramanauskas is anexcellent young player and it is a true shame to the game of football that he his career is potentially in jeopardy. I'm not a particular fan of Essendon in general but I do enjoy watching these two players in full flight. I am in fact a Melbourne supporter and if Yze was traded then I probably would not be a supporter any more. Losing him, Powell and Woewodin in two years would have me questioning the sanity of those involved at the MFC.
bionicsasquach
16 Sep 2003, 17:27
I;m getting in early, if Yze leaves Melbourne, It's gonna be a long 3 or 4 years at the bottom. It would leave you with no midfield, no backline and a inconsistent forward line. All melbourne have going for them is Jolly!
Broadbridge_20
16 Sep 2003, 17:36
Originally posted by no1bankteller
I am an Eagles supporter and two players that I do rate are Solomom and M Johnson. I would have both of those players ahead of Yze.
Yze is a pure receiver who does get loads of posessions does not use them as well as he should and is very soft in a contest.
Solomon uses intimidation and toughness to win contests and is a good kick and a great mark for his size.
Trading Solomon for Yze would be no different to trading Solomon for Cousins.
Would you do it?
NeoBlaze
16 Sep 2003, 17:37
good move by yze.....will be the best career move he ever makes. He might actually get the opporunity to play some finals rather than putting up with the rest of his bitchslap team at the moment. I'd be falling over myself if I were North to try and get him over if we had money to spend to get him....
Broadbridge_20
16 Sep 2003, 17:42
Originally posted by bozza
That is the dumbest thing I have heard in a long, long time. Are you friends with the Port supporters on here?
Have you ever thought that maybe the Port supporters who watch him for 22+ games a season would know something about the way he plays?
Broadbridge_20
16 Sep 2003, 17:46
Originally posted by bionicsasquach
. All melbourne have going for them is Jolly!
and Scott Thompson and Steven Armstrong and Brad Miller and Travis Johnstone and Clint Bizzell and Matthew Whelan and David Nietz and Daniel Bell and Nick Smith and Nathan Brown and Mark Jamar and Cameron Bruce and Ryan Ferguson and Jarred Rivers.
Yep, we have nothing going for us.
Broadbridge_20
16 Sep 2003, 17:50
You can add a couple of top 5 draft picks onto that list.
no1bankteller
16 Sep 2003, 18:13
Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
Trading Solomon for Yze would be no different to trading Solomon for Cousins.
Would you do it?
Cousins is a club captain, he took a pay cut to help out the club, he and Kerr lead the club in hard ball gets. The end story is that Cousins is so far ahead of Yze as a person and as a player that this comparison is laughable.
Therefore I would not trade Cousins but if I had Yze at WCE I would trade him in a second.
Originally posted by marcuz
Yze has much better foot skills than solly.
Solly is stronger(can bench press 165kgs to be strongest at the club)
Faster, tougher.
Solly doesnt need to have the football to make an impact. Yze does.
We have ramanauskas who is similar to yze and also 4 years younger.
Dont compare 2 completely different players.
Solo is a strong backman
Yze is a fast midfielder
It depends what a club feels they need
superstar
16 Sep 2003, 20:58
Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
and Scott Thompson and Steven Armstrong and Brad Miller and Travis Johnstone and Clint Bizzell and Matthew Whelan and David Nietz and Daniel Bell and Nick Smith and Nathan Brown and Mark Jamar and Cameron Bruce and Ryan Ferguson and Jarred Rivers.
Yep, we have nothing going for us.
Thanks for confirming that.
scooter600x
16 Sep 2003, 22:50
Originally posted by marcuz
Who gives a **** about class.
:D
Ok. If class isn't important, how about Lloyd for Wiggins?
Ok. If class isn't important, how about Lloyd for Wiggins?
You throw in Nick bruton and a slab of vb and thats a done deal;)
bionicsasquach
16 Sep 2003, 22:58
Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
and Scott Thompson and Steven Armstrong and Brad Miller and Travis Johnstone and Clint Bizzell and Matthew Whelan and David Nietz and Daniel Bell and Nick Smith and Nathan Brown and Mark Jamar and Cameron Bruce and Ryan Ferguson and Jarred Rivers
2 of those players will be in Melbournes starting squad in 3-4 years
Deestroy
16 Sep 2003, 23:21
Originally posted by bionicsasquach
2 of those players will be in Melbournes starting squad in 3-4 years
Care to put your money where your mouth is?
Originally posted by Deestroy
Care to put your money where your mouth is?
Ill bet you $50 that Jason Laycock will be a better footballer than Nick Smith.
Deestroy
17 Sep 2003, 00:13
Originally posted by marcuz
Ill bet you $50 that Jason Laycock will be a better footballer than Nick Smith.
What the hell has that got to do with anything?
Sorry mate wrong demon fan. Its open to any demon fan who wants to take it
Demon37
17 Sep 2003, 00:19
Originally posted by marcuz
Sorry mate wrong demon fan. Its open to any demon fan who wants to take it
Mate, I never said that Nick Smith would be a better player than Laycock. All I said was that Smith showed more in his debut season than Laycock.
Essendon got a ruckman, just what they needed. Melbourne got a CHF, just what they needed.
It's just that we got two very good players (Heffernan, Smith) for the price of one (Laycock).
Mate, I never said that Nick Smith would be a better player than Laycock. All I said was that Smith showed more in his debut season than Laycock.
Essendon got a ruckman, just what they needed. Melbourne got a CHF, just what they needed.
It's just that we got two very good players (Heffernan, Smith) for the price of one (Laycock).
Well said...im impressed....i will stress though that we had to trade up to get laycock(by the way he is more a forward than a ruckman). He wouldnt have been there at 15. So if he turns out to be a player it will have been worth it
year of the roo
17 Sep 2003, 00:31
Originally posted by Deestroy
Care to put your money where your mouth is?
whats with you and betting?? if you actually went thru with some of these bets you have online, you would have nothing left. then how would you afford your MCC membership and all the snow trips??
dees 4 life
17 Sep 2003, 01:21
Originally posted by NeoBlaze
good move by yze.....will be the best career move he ever makes. He might actually get the opporunity to play some finals rather than putting up with the rest of his bitchslap team at the moment. I'd be falling over myself if I were North to try and get him over if we had money to spend to get him....
Just terrible comments those, yze has played in heeps of finals
in 98 Yze played in a Qualifying Final a Semi Final and a Preliminary Final
In 2000 Yze played in a Qualifying Final a Preliminary final and a grand final
In 2002 yze played in a Elimination Final and a semi final.
All up yze has played in 8 finals but still doesnt manage to play finals according to you, get your facts right before you say terrible comments
Broadbridge_20
17 Sep 2003, 01:34
Originally posted by no1bankteller
Cousins is a club captain, he took a pay cut to help out the club, he and Kerr lead the club in hard ball gets. The end story is that Cousins is so far ahead of Yze as a person and as a player that this comparison is laughable.
Therefore I would not trade Cousins but if I had Yze at WCE I would trade him in a second.
Yze is almost a 200 game player at the age of 25 and the most respected player at the club with Nietz. The damage it would cause losing him after losing two topline midfielders last year would be just as much if not more than what it'd be if you lost Cousins.
guess_who
17 Sep 2003, 10:33
Would be quiet funny, considering they got rid of Woey to keep theire 'stars' in Johnstone and Yze...
Deestroy
17 Sep 2003, 15:14
Originally posted by year of the roo
whats with you and betting?? if you actually went thru with some of these bets you have online, you would have nothing left. then how would you afford your MCC membership and all the snow trips??
What a load of crap.
You backed out of the only other bet I offered to take, obviously not very confident in what you were saying.
I could do with $100 if this guy wants to take the bet.
Nah, we don't need that soft overated midfielder. Besides we've got plenty of midfielders better than Yze.
Demon37
17 Sep 2003, 16:50
Originally posted by jabso
Nah, we don't need that soft overated midfielder. Besides we've got plenty of midfielders better than Yze.
Such as...
Buckley, Burns, Licuria, Woewodin.
Demon37
17 Sep 2003, 17:04
Originally posted by jabso
Buckley, Burns, Licuria, Woewodin.
Buckley- Agree.
Burns- Maybe.
Licuria- No.
Woewodin- You're kidding aren't you?
Lets take a look at Yze's stats since 1998.
1998- 25 games. 489 disposals at 19.56 per game.
1999- 22 games. 348 disposals at 15.81 per game.
2000- 25 games. 534 disposals at 21.36 per game.
2001- 22 games. 489 disposals at 22.22 per game.
2002- 24 games. 546 disposals at 22.75 per game.
2003- 22 games. 453 disposals at 20.59 per game.
Total: 140 games. 2859 disposals at 20.42 per game.
Even in his worst year (2003), he managed to pick up more disposals than most midfielders in the league.
Melbourne may be crap, but Yze is a superstar. Any club would die for him in their midfield.
Yze is good but i wouldnt say any club would die for him, He lacks for instance in clearances. His strengths are his running and disposal
vicpride99
17 Sep 2003, 17:28
Yze has a great talent, he is one of the best midfielders going around and will continue to be.
bionicsasquach
17 Sep 2003, 20:01
Originally posted by Deestroy
Care to put your money where your mouth is?
Not really, just thought i'd let you know that Melbourne havn't got it right for what over 40 years now? And it doesn't look like changing anytime soon.
bionicsasquach
17 Sep 2003, 20:02
Originally posted by marcuz
Ill bet you $50 that Jason Laycock will be a better footballer than Nick Smith.
Laycock will be a better player than just about all of melbourne
Deestroy
17 Sep 2003, 20:05
Originally posted by bionicsasquach
Not really, just thought i'd let you know that Melbourne havn't got it right for what over 40 years now? And it doesn't look like changing anytime soon.
I.e. you're talking **** and even you know it's ****.
Thanks for clearing that up.
bionicsasquach
17 Sep 2003, 20:26
Hey mate, i'm lettin you know the truth. ok wake up to it. but just in case i am the one full of **** lets ask the rest of the board.IS MELBOURNES CURRENT LIST GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE NEXT 3-4 YEARS?
year of the roo
17 Sep 2003, 20:40
Originally posted by bionicsasquach
IS MELBOURNES CURRENT LIST GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE NEXT 3-4 YEARS?
yeah every second year, but a premiership...nup, not for another 40!!
Deestroy
17 Sep 2003, 20:46
Originally posted by bionicsasquach
Hey mate, i'm lettin you know the truth. ok wake up to it. but just in case i am the one full of **** lets ask the rest of the board.IS MELBOURNES CURRENT LIST GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE NEXT 3-4 YEARS?
Yet this has nothing to do with your comment "2 of those players will be in Melbournes starting squad in 3-4 years". You were speaking **** then, weren't willing to back it up, and are now changing the topic in an attempt to not seem so full of it.
NeoBlaze
17 Sep 2003, 23:42
Originally posted by dees 4 life
Just terrible comments those, yze has played in heeps of finals
in 98 Yze played in a Qualifying Final a Semi Final and a Preliminary Final
In 2000 Yze played in a Qualifying Final a Preliminary final and a grand final
In 2002 yze played in a Elimination Final and a semi final.
All up yze has played in 8 finals but still doesnt manage to play finals according to you, get your facts right before you say terrible comments
ok sorry i got my facts wrong, there there sure as hell isn't going to be any more finals he's going to be playing if he stays with melbourne
bionicsasquach
18 Sep 2003, 15:04
Originally posted by Deestroy
Yet this has nothing to do with your comment "2 of those players will be in Melbournes starting squad in 3-4 years". You were speaking **** then, weren't willing to back it up, and are now changing the topic in an attempt to not seem so full of it.
Be serious, if Melbourne were going to be successful in the next 3-4 years these players they are developing now will be around otherwise the will move on or hang around the reserves.
SkARkS_69
18 Sep 2003, 15:38
Yze for Lucas. (as tough as each other, both left footers, and dont have a big influence without the ball)
There you go a perfect trade.
No arguements?
Good.
CowboyFromHell
18 Sep 2003, 23:45
I love watching people argue with my fellow Demon supporters on here.
You know you have them beat when they revert to either...
a) The snow
b) We will be a "bad" side for years to come
c) Haven't won a premiership in 40 years.
Most people in this thread who have been challenged by a Demon supporter have reverted to something along these lines.
I wish there were people worth arguing with on here these days. Porthos and some of the Geelong crew are the only ones good at it anymore! :(
One-eyed Tiger
19 Sep 2003, 00:45
Originally posted by Demon37
Lets take a look at Yze's stats since 1998.
1998- 25 games. 489 disposals at 19.56 per game.
1999- 22 games. 348 disposals at 15.81 per game.
2000- 25 games. 534 disposals at 21.36 per game.
2001- 22 games. 489 disposals at 22.22 per game.
2002- 24 games. 546 disposals at 22.75 per game.
2003- 22 games. 453 disposals at 20.59 per game.
Total: 140 games. 2859 disposals at 20.42 per game.
Even in his worst year (2003), he managed to pick up more disposals than most midfielders in the league.
Melbourne may be crap, but Yze is a superstar. Any club would die for him in their midfield.
Joel Bowden's stats since 1998:
1998- 18 games. 309 disposals at 17 per game.
1999- 22 games. 421 disposals at 19 per game.
2000- 22 games. 496 disposals at 22 per game.
2001- 25 games. 591 disposals at 23 per game.
2002- 22 games. 505 disposals at 22 per game.
2003- 22 games. 481 disposals at 20 per game.
Total: 131 games. 2803 disposals at 21.39 per game.
Is Joel Bowden a superstar?
I think not. Most here won't contemplate a first or second round pick for him.
Stats can lie.................
bacon buster
19 Sep 2003, 00:56
Originally posted by SkARkS_69
Yze for Lucas.
There you go a perfect trade.
whatever you're smoking, i want a kilo.
Broadbridge_20
19 Sep 2003, 01:02
Originally posted by bacon buster
whatever you're smoking, i want a kilo.
I wouldn't give you a third rounder for Lucas.
bacon buster
19 Sep 2003, 01:07
Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
I wouldn't give you a third rounder for Lucas.
haven't watched a whole lot of footy this year?
he is a big game player - see his game against port by any chance?
completely demolished cornes and had him dragged. he extremely brave, though he looks extremely awkward at times. keeps his nose over it unlike a lot of melbourne players,
whatever you're smoking, i want a kilo.
I wouldn't give you a third rounder for Lucas.
Of course you wouldnt. You couldnt give us anything of value. Neale Daniher would **** all demon members(all three of them) in the arse to get lucas. Last time i looked you werent exactly over endoured with tall backman.
Originally posted by One-eyed Tiger
Joel Bowden's stats since 1998:
1998- 18 games. 309 disposals at 17 per game.
1999- 22 games. 421 disposals at 19 per game.
2000- 22 games. 496 disposals at 22 per game.
2001- 25 games. 591 disposals at 23 per game.
2002- 22 games. 505 disposals at 22 per game.
2003- 22 games. 481 disposals at 20 per game.
Total: 131 games. 2803 disposals at 21.39 per game.
Is Joel Bowden a superstar?
I think not. Most here won't contemplate a first or second round pick for him.
Stats can lie.................
Fair post that one.
Perspective is a funny thing isn't it?
Broadbridge_20
19 Sep 2003, 01:23
Originally posted by bacon buster
haven't watched a whole lot of footy this year?
he is a big game player - see his game against port by any chance?
completely demolished cornes and had him dragged. he extremely brave, though he looks extremely awkward at times. keeps his nose over it unlike a lot of melbourne players,
whatever you're smoking, i want a kilo.
No I missed the Port game, I was working that night but I've seen him plenty of other times.
He still looks like a forward playing out of position to me.
I guess it's personal opinion, I just don't rate him.
Broadbridge_20
19 Sep 2003, 01:31
Originally posted by marcuz
Of course you wouldnt. You couldnt give us anything of value. Neale Daniher would **** all demon members(all three of them) in the arse to get lucas. Last time i looked you werent exactly over endoured with tall backman.
Give me Nicholson, Ferguson, Ellis, Bizzell, Lamb or Carroll any day of the week.
One season doesn't make a player, just ask John Barker.
He will be back on the trade table at the end of next year like he was at the end of last, only difference is next year nobody will want him.
Get something for him while you can.
Give me Nicholson, Ferguson, Ellis, Bizzell, Lamb or Carroll any day of the week.
One season doesn't make a player, just ask John Barker.
He will be back on the trade table at the end of next year like he was at the end of last, only difference is next year nobody will want him.
Get something for him while you can.
One season? You are an a grade ****wit. Your knowledge of football extends no further than the pathetic walls of junction oval.
Ok so a guy who has kicked 50+ goals twice from centre half forward. Played in a premiership and played well in big games. As well as being stiff to miss on the AA centre half back spot. You have rated him below craig ellis?, Nicholson?, Chris lamb? Carroll?
If the Melbourne match committe rate their talent like their supporters do then i see melbourne being stuck in the **** for a long, long, time.
Doesnt matter anyway. Lucas is a bomber for life.
bacon buster
19 Sep 2003, 01:56
Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
Give me Nicholson, Ferguson, Ellis, Bizzell, Lamb or Carroll any day of the week.
One season doesn't make a player, just ask John Barker.
He will be back on the trade table at the end of next year like he was at the end of last, only difference is next year nobody will want him.
Get something for him while you can.
wrong
lucas played well in the backline at the end of last year too
maybe you should watch games that don't involve your beloved dees, in order to get a better understanding of other teams players.
Deestroy
19 Sep 2003, 02:08
I rate Lucas, but at the price he would be I would prefer we developed some of the many young talls we have. Carroll & Ferguson have shown a fair bit this year and should be persevered with.
Oh Furious One
19 Sep 2003, 02:47
Adam Yze for Jarrad Molly.
Make it happen Collingwood.