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slyolddog
17th September 2003, 01:15
Has he re-signed with Wet Toast yet?
A person on a bummer board reckons Wirra for Danny Jacobs is a done diddly done deal if they miss out on Nafan Brown (which looks likely)
Sera
17th September 2003, 09:43
No he hasn't but we wouldn't trade him for Jacobs, we could get a lot better than that.
Chooditch
17th September 2003, 09:43
Wirra hasn't resigned with the Eagles as yet.
The news in the west is that he'll stay with the Eagles, but with the Eagles delisting Troy Wilson earlier in the week, he could be traded for some tall timber up forward.
Black Thunder
17th September 2003, 10:19
Word is that Wirrpunda is staying with us, but we'll never know till he signs on the dotted line.
If he did get traded, than Jacobs could be one fo the targets, but there'd have to be a draft pick sweetener in there for that one to go through....
Sundog
17th September 2003, 14:04
Wirrpunda for Nick Holland? (and a pick)
...just an idle rumour I heard ;)
Black Thunder
17th September 2003, 14:05
Originally posted by Sundog
Wirrpunda for Nick Holland? (and a pick)
...just an idle rumour I heard ;)
no thanks ;) Thompson more like it...
Voice of Reason
17th September 2003, 15:52
Originally posted by Sundog
Wirrpunda for Nick Holland? (and a pick)
...just an idle rumour I made up while on drugs;)
Yeah, that'd be right
Stealth bomber
17th September 2003, 16:40
Wirrpunda would be good for us. Obviously just a matter of whether or not Essendon has anything the weagles would want; I would imagine Jacobs straight up is not enough.
Supported Essendon as a kid, wanted to play for us, and has been reported as saying we are the only club he'll go to Victoria to play for.
Kickout ability a big plus.
Main concern would be proneness to get injured.
vicpride99
17th September 2003, 16:48
West Coast do need some tall forwards in a hurry i think. You can't have Matera as your vocal point.
Voice of Reason
17th September 2003, 16:50
Originally posted by vicpride99
West Coast do need some tall forwards in a hurry i think. You can't have Matera as your vocal point.
I suspect you mean "focal" not vocal.
And Woosha says he isn't, anyway.
Clayton
17th September 2003, 17:35
Wirrpunda is a required player i would have thought. he hasn't signed yet but has said that he would like to remain in WA
certainly we need him down back because we suffered without him in Adelaide.
dougthelegend
17th September 2003, 17:39
Originally posted by Stealth bomber
Wirrpunda would be good for us. Obviously just a matter of whether or not Essendon has anything the weagles would want; I would imagine Jacobs straight up is not enough.
Supported Essendon as a kid, wanted to play for us, and has been reported as saying we are the only club he'll go to Victoria to play for.
Kickout ability a big plus.
Main concern would be proneness to get injured.
Agree totally, Jacobs for him would be a sensational deal for us.
in reality we it would be Jacobs + midrange pick for him though.
llosis
17th September 2003, 17:57
Originally posted by Stealth bomber
Wirrpunda would be good for us. Obviously just a matter of whether or not Essendon has anything the weagles would want; I would imagine Jacobs straight up is not enough.
Supported Essendon as a kid, wanted to play for us, and has been reported as saying we are the only club he'll go to Victoria to play for.
Kickout ability a big plus.
Main concern would be proneness to get injured.
The thought of Danny Jacobs down filling in some of our gaping KPP defensive holes did appeal to me for a while.
Then I watched last Saturday nights game and realised he's puss.
No thanks. Especially not for Wirra.
daddy_4_eyes
17th September 2003, 17:57
Few interesting points:
*It has been reported that the WCE have offered him substantially less than what he was asking for.
*Has stated that he wants to be a one club player.
*Is not that injury prone. I doubt he would have missed more than half a dozen games in last 3 seasons.
*Had an operation on his legs this season to fix a problem he's been carrying all his life, which greatly contributed to his early career injuries (apparently had to wait till a certain age to get operation done).
*Said earlier in the year that his body feels like that of a 30yr olds.
Dunno what relevance those points have to this thread, just thought I'd throw them in for those who are wondering about his availability and physical condition.
Black Thunder
18th September 2003, 10:11
Originally posted by vicpride99
West Coast do need some tall forwards in a hurry i think. You can't have Matera as your vocal point.
We don't need forwards. We have a dearth of forward coming through to compliment our midfield. We need some defenders.
Up forward we have:
Phil Matera (28 years old in 2004)
David Haynes (23)
Ashley Sampi (20)
Brent Staker (20)
Andrew Embley (23)
Andrew McDougall (21)
Rowan Jones (26)
Travis Gaspar (23) - probably going to move into defence
and with the pinch hitting experience of Glen Jakovich (31)
with guys liek Mark Seaby (20), Paul Johnson (19/20), Kane Munro (21), Damien Adkins (23) still developing their games.
But down back we don't quite have near as much talent - particularly tall talent.
llosis
I wouldn't judge to much on Jacobs from just one match - he would definetaly sure up our defence much more as at the moment, we are relying on Glass - who will never be more than solid, Gaspar - who may not ever get to 50 games due to such constant injury problems, Carroll - the less said about him the better, and Lynch - yet to play an AFL game in defence, but has been allright in the WAFL down there.
IMO there's next to no certainty down there. The only certainty being Glass as a solid, but nothing more, at FB.
poncho
18th September 2003, 14:57
For those of you who obviously haven't watched enough Essendon games to make a fair assessment I can assure you Jacobs is a quality player.
He is a very good and reliable FB or CHB. He gets lost when not played on a key forward or when in the forward line himself.
Unfortunately for him he is is 3rd in line at Essendon behind Fletcher and Lucas who are both AA quality and you can't keep them all when you are desperate for a runner.
Biggest assets are his safe hands and ability to read the play. Can take a taller opponent no worries (ie murdered Tarrant on Anzac Day) but understandably struggles against the more powerful forwards like Lynch and Tredrea.
I would even say he'd be around the 10th best full back going around (at 23), would be a good get for Melbourne, WB, WC etc.
CowboyFromHell
18th September 2003, 22:36
I'd be pleased if Wirrpunda came to play with Melbourne.
How about Pick #20 and Chris Lamb? I am throwing Lamb at every club atm! :p
daddy_4_eyes
19th September 2003, 00:12
Originally posted by CowboyFromHell
How about Pick #20 and Chris Lamb? I am throwing Lamb at every club atm! :p
How about your concession pick ?
The pick doesn't guarantee Melbourne anything, it merely offers the choice to pick the unproven kid of your choice. Wirrpunda brings guaranteed quality with 8yrs AFL experience at the young age of 24.
Anyone who thinks the potential to draft a star of the future is worth more than an already made star is seriously overrating the value of draft picks.
CowboyFromHell
19th September 2003, 00:18
Originally posted by daddy_4_eyes
How about your concession pick ?
The pick doesn't guarantee Melbourne anything, it merely offers the choice to pick the unproven kid of your choice. Wirrpunda brings guaranteed quality with 8yrs AFL experience at the young age of 24.
Anyone who thinks the potential to draft a star of the future is worth more than an already made star is seriously overrating the value of draft picks.
He also brings a **** load of injuries with him as well. I think the offer I have put up would be relatively fair. Lamb is still very young, former first round pick, would benefit your side, as would the pick.
Adrenaline
19th September 2003, 00:33
Chris Lamb since debut in 1999 has played 21 games, I agree he is a talent and would love to have him at Carlton. West Coast have 11 players at 192 and taller that are developing nicely. I beleive Wirrpunda is still worth a first round draft pick ( pick 8 to 12). He Played 18 of 23 games in 2003, 21 of 23 in 2002, together with surgery that will be performed to rectify bone structure in his feet, he will only get better.
Broadbridge_20
19th September 2003, 00:41
Wirrpunda would be nice...
if we didnt already have 137 half back flankers to choose from.
I don't think I'd be willing to give up what the Eagles would be asking.
Deestroy
19th September 2003, 00:54
Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
if we didnt already have 137 half back flankers to choose from.
I don't think I'd be willing to give up what the Eagles would be asking.
I agree with this, if anything we should be offloading a flanker or 2, not adding more.
daddy_4_eyes
19th September 2003, 01:41
Originally posted by Broadbridge_20
Wirrpunda would be nice...
if we didnt already have 137 half back flankers to choose from.
I don't think I'd be willing to give up what the Eagles would be asking.
He scored 26 goals last year playing as a part time forward. If it wasn't for the quality of West Coast's midfield, and lack of skill in the backline, I imagine he would spend a fair bit of time on the wing.
Carlos
19th September 2003, 08:48
Originally posted by Adrenaline
I beleive Wirrpunda is still worth a first round draft pick ( pick 8 to 12). He Played 18 of 23 games in 2003, 21 of 23 in 2002, together with surgery that will be performed to rectify bone structure in his feet, he will only get better.
If Daniel bloody Chick was worth pick 10, Wirrpunda is at least worth that!!
Big fan of this bloke and i reckon the Eagles would be slightly silly to part with him for anything less than a first round pick.
RzrBlade
19th September 2003, 09:49
I agree with Carlos, West Coast departing with Wirrpunda with anything less than pick 10 and below is a travesty. But I hope he stays, he is an icon of the club and will bring in the young indiginous people out West for years to come to support the club. He must not be traded if it can be avoided at any cost!
We would most likely command a player plus a late 2nd rounder though.
Hodge_is_God
19th September 2003, 13:21
Originally posted by Carlos
If Daniel bloody Chick was worth pick 10, Wirrpunda is at least worth that!!
Chick - Was our best player in 2000, led us into the prelim final in 2001 could have been AA in either of these years, Hawks leading goal-kicker in 2002, third in the league in tackles 2002, has had personal problems (brother's death etc) and injuries since then.
WAS entering his prime at 26, WAS injury free, and was/is a game breaker at his best, and hence worth pick 10.
Unfortunately, footy just isn't his priority anymore, not that WC knew that.
tyk23
19th September 2003, 13:25
I got the impression on the footy show last night that he is pretty set in WA (with all his charity work, and setting up a charity foundation).
Doubt he would want to leave WA, probably only will if forced to
RzrBlade
19th September 2003, 19:37
Originally posted by tyk23
probably only will if forced to
And I think we all know that won't happen.
zero
19th September 2003, 20:33
he was on the news earlier in the year, saying that he had no wish to head home and was going to stay in WA after his football career. he aint goin no place