Weaver's Phantom Draft Mk2

[Weaver]

Just looking at the kids. There will be recycled players and some from the state leagues as well. Probably 70-80 picks in total so need about 60 kids .. so here is 60 kids.

1. Adam Cooney - Western Bulldogs

Near unanimous choice. Clearly the best available.

2. Kepler Bradley - Carlton

Melbourne got too clever taking Johnstone ahead of Ottens. Carlton shouldn't do the same. Bradley is a freak who could really allow for some great mismatches.

3. Colin Sylvia - Melbourne

Dees need an inside midfielder. If they take Tenace, Dogs will take Sylvia. If they take Syvlia, Dogs won't want another outside midfielder so Melbourne can be cunning and get both Sylvia and Tenace.

4. Fergus Watts - Western Bulldogs

Tim Walsh at CHF and Watts at FF looks a lovely one-two punch.

5. Kane Tenace - Melbourne

A bargain at 5. Dees get an inside midfielder and a running wingman. Reminds a bit of Tingay.

6. Andrew Walker - Richmond

Richmond will be nervous here and might look to trade. Walker is not heaps different to Fiora, in fact Fiora is a better kick. If they could get Sylvia they would be happy, but might look to avoid having to take Walker. They need pace though.

7. Troy Chaplin - Geelong

Hard to pick what Geelong would need, hard to say who the best available player is. Tough spot. Chaplin is rated and a good bigman is normally a safe choice.

8. Raphael Clarke - St Kilda

Reunite the brothers. Raph Clarke is the new Steven Koops. Not quite as intense as his brother.

9. Ryley Dunn - Kangaroos

Flanker who needs to learn to play in the midfield. Looks a Roos type player.

10. David Mundy - Hawthorn

Hawks are never frightened of reaching for a player they like. Mundy is a good fullback who reminds of Hay or Graham. Their style of bigman.

11. Mathew Moody - West Coast

Don't know if they have given up on the Williams, Jones, Embley type flankers, but he is that sort of player.

12. Farren Ray - Fremantle

They love locals. They love soft, unaccountable outside players with pace.

13. Jay Nash - Essendon

Elegant half-back flanker. They love elegance at Windy Hill.

14. Billy Morrison - Adelaide

No real idea when he will be taken, but the Crows have a lot of veteran bigmen and so will be looking to get a good kid who can play key positions in a few years.

15. Brock McLean - Sydney

Swans look for character in their relocations and he has it in spades. Will love the SCG.

16. Tim Schmidt - Port Adelaide

A big bodied midfielder they can stash away for a couple of years. Would combine well with Salopek.

17. William Gayfer - Collingwood

Probably need pace, more than size but with the 2 Shaw boys in the bag they will look for key position.

18. Luke Peel - Brisbane

Have to start preparing the next generation of midfielders. Good wing prospect.

19. Clint Duienicki - Western Bulldogs

Rare to see a ruckman fall this far. He is not that good but is tall and they are desperate. Won't be any left by their next pick so have to take the best available.

20. Mathew Spencer - Melbourne

After adding two midfielders early they go for a bigman. Has a good junior career.

21. Ben Cosgriff - Richmond

Uility. They need a safe pick and this guy can play 10 positions and so that will help.

22. Jacob Surjan - Geelong

Always need pace

23. Brent Hall - St Kilda

Need a good ruck prospect.

24. Ricky Dyson - Kangaroos

He's quick and from the Northern suburbs. Monty for the Roos.

25. Andrew Eriksen - Hawthorn

Another club that needs a ruck apprentice. Act now or miss out as the run-on has begun.

26. Kyle Archibald - West Coast

Athletic freak who poses big mismatch problems. One who could go much earlier if a club is willing to reach.

27. Mathew Priddis - Fremantle

Into good ordinary player territory now. They may as well stay local.

28. Llane Spanderman - Essendon

They probably won't take a ruckman, but it they do we are scraping the bottom now.

29. Brad Symes - Adelaide

Just screams typical SA footballer. Slow maturing, good skills, not overly athletic.

30. David Trotter - Sydney

Rumoured to be the best NSW player available. Utility type.

31. Beau Waters - Port Adelaide

Decision to recruit Salpoek says they wanted tougher midfielders, Waters almost qualifies. More an undersized defender or flanker.

32. Brayden Shaw - Collingwood

Father-son winger.

33. Cameron Illett - Brisbane

Very good in very close. Smart little rover.

34. Shaun Daly - Carlton

Blues need everything but there is not much left. Daly can play in the midfield. Is a slow plodder, but they need someone to win the ball.

35. Scott Chalen - Western Bulldogs

A young full-back. Have to keep recruiting big blokes until they find a good one.

36. Chris Johnson - Melbourne

Father-son, undersized key-forward.

37. Tom Roach - Richmond

Father-son. Big reach for raw centreman

38. Mark Blake - Geelong

Father-son. Bargain to get a ruckman who can play even a little at this point.

39. Joel Campbell - St Kilda

Aboriginal half-back. In for a penny in for a pound. Need a bit of creativity out of the back-half.

40. Daniel McConnell - Kangaroos

Ahtletic CHB prospect. Pretty raw but the Roos like a big bloke who can run.

41. Chris Stewart - Hawthorn

They may need to restock on big blokes. allthough have a couple of developing talls in the 2s.

42. Josh Willoughby - West Coast

He is small, but quick. That might suit Subi best.

43. Michael Pettigrew - Fremantle

A bit more of a traditional FB than the options they have now.

44. Brett Stanton - Essendon

Flashy but inconsistant. Just how the Dons like them.

45. Heath Grundy - Adelaide

Good junior career. FB, might as well stash some big blokes, might get lucky.

46. Jake Furfaro - Sydney

Tough half-back. Swans don't mind recruting mid-sized key position types.

47. Darren Brakenridge - Port Adelaide

A key position type who was overlooked last year.

48. Heath Shaw - Collingwood

Father-son. Less talented winger.

49. Daniel Chidlow - Brisbane

The Lions have probably started passing their picks at this point.

50. Ben Jolley - Carlton

Winger with good stamina.

51. Jed Adcock - Western Bulldogs

Competitive inside player.

52. Theo Adams - Melbourne

Physically mature inside player.

53. Jarrod Silvester - Richmond

Desparatley need some big blokes. Good size, conventional CHB.

54. Ben Davies - Geelong

Sanderson can't play forever.

55. Andrew Lorimor - St Kilda

Extremely raw ruck prospect. Won't play for years.

56. Luke Taylor - Kangaroos

Utility type from traditional Roos hunting ground.

57. Brett Robinson - Hawthorn

Scrappy onballer. Help sell the Tassie adventure.

58. Ryan Murphy - West Coast

Raw CHB who is not performing as well as his rep suggests he should.

59. Adrian Curley - Fremantle

Handy onballer.

60. Nick Kane - Essendon

They love light, running key defenders.

[vicpride99]

where are your recycled players. You should put them in.

[dogman22]

Great work, Weaver. However I've heard a whisper that the Blues have already committed to Tenace, which may mean that Bradley falls to #4, allowing the Dogs to pick a quality tall early so they don't have to experiment too much further down the order

PS. Don't expect anything of this quality from me - I actually have to look like I'm doing some work here!!!

[Demon37]

Good effort.

I would be over the moon if we finished up with Sylvia and Tennace.

[nightcrawler]

I have to agree. The general consensus among Blues fans is that we will take Tenace, and there is a rumour doing the rounds that we have already committed to him. He has the skills and the pace that we need. But all that could change after draft camp/trade week.

[bozza]

Originally posted by Weaver
24. Ricky Dyson - Kangaroos

He's quick and from the Northern suburbs. Monty for the Roos.


Hope he doesn't end up here. Want him at Bomberland. Doubt he will go past Round 1. Very good effort though Weaver

[GOALden Hawk]

If we get Chris Stewart at 41 I will cream myself. The guy has more raw talent than any tall in the draft. Chaplin may be more athletic, Gayfer may be smarter and Watts more physical but Stewart could be anything. Could be nothing as well.

Ericksen - please no. Mundy is a good player but I'd be surprised if we took him with a top 10 pick.

A lot of WA and SA players in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

I've just started compiling my thoughts - only written up Qld and NT so far. The final draft camp lists will play a big part as well.

Big difference is I tend to ignore what teams have draft picks when evaluating players. So although Hawthorn might need a tall at 10, I may have Brock McLean there just because I have him as the 10th best youngster available. Although I usually just sort them into rounds after the first 20 or so.

Be surprised if Watts goes that high, and Jed Adcock would be a bargain in the 50's/

[year of the roo]

Originally posted by Weaver
40. Daniel McConnell - Kangaroos
you will make Moti very happy if this comes true...

[SCRAY72]

Very interesting reading.
I will be happy with Watts if Bradley is already gone.

If any early draft picks are exchanged the whole draft order changes significantly. If Brown, Stevens,Jacobs,Power,Bowden,Rawlings change clubs,top 20 picks will be involved which throws everyone's priorities around.

Great Effort, look forward to MK3 after October 17th.

[Hosko]

13. Jay Nash - Essendon

Elegant half-back flanker. They love elegance at Windy Hill.
never heard of him! who is he? where is he from?

[jivey]

half back? we aregoing midfield, midfield, midfield!

[dougthelegend]

Originally posted by jivey
half back? we aregoing midfield, midfield, midfield!
and then more midfield! :D

[Hosko]

half back? we aregoing midfield, midfield, midfield!
hmm remember that we have Walsh, Watson and Winderlich from last year. I think that we will go with a midfielder for the first pick and after that the best available, which means it could be Key back/faward anything. Does depend a little on who we can trade for aswell.

[|D_J^B_J|]

Good effort Weaver.

However, Callum Burges will be drafted and Lukas Teague from South Fremantle is also a fair chance. A club may also be willing to use a late pick to draft Brent Bususto (South Fremantle), Brad Smith (Subiaco) or Peter McGennisken (Peel).

Freo are still considering whether we should take Brett Peake (son of Bomber) under the f/s rule with our third rounder.

I'm hoping we will be able to take Matthew Moody (South Fremantle) with our first rounder and Jacob Surjan (South Fremantle) with our second rounder. Is there a chance that Moody will be available at pick 12 and Surjan at pick 27? Or will we have to trade for a lower pick?

[jonathon.e]

Great effort.

Noticed you have picked the Lions to win the flag.

[Dog Town]

Pretty good effort from a guy who obviously watches alot of junior footy.I am no expert but the guys I would have thought would go higher are

Trotter-Some people rave about him.I thought closer to top 15.

Stewart-Totally agree with Goalden Hawk.This guy is one of the few genuine pack markers in the draft.Should go earlier.

Waters-Should go higher IMO.

[tashibatts]

Originally posted by Weaver

9. Ryley Dunn - Kangaroos

Flanker who needs to learn to play in the midfield. Looks a Roos type player.
24. Ricky Dyson - Kangaroos

He's quick and from the Northern suburbs. Monty for the Roos.
40. Daniel McConnell - Kangaroos

Ahtletic CHB prospect. Pretty raw but the Roos like a big bloke who can run.

56. Luke Taylor - Kangaroos

Utility type from traditional Roos hunting ground.


Can you tell me more about Dyson, McConnell & Taylor

Would be very happy with Dunn at #9.. the word "brilliant" comes to mind.

If you have seen Joel Perry (#31 last years draft), how does he compare with McConnel?

Go Roos

[Gilbee9]

I would not be suprised if Sydney took David Trotter with there first kid, they took local boy McVeigh last year.

Great Work Weaver.

[Deestroy]

Sylvia and Tennace.. sounds good to me. Can't see Tennace getting past Carlton's pick however.

[Stiffy_18]

Great effort Weaver.

I was looking forward to your phantom draft ;)

Originally posted by Weaver
14. Billy Morrison - Adelaide

No real idea when he will be taken, but the Crows have a lot of veteran bigmen and so will be looking to get a good kid who can play key positions in a few years. If he is as good as you have been saying I would be pleased. Who do you rate as better Gayfer or Morrison????? Can Morrison pinch hit in the ruck??????

29. Brad Symes - Adelaide

Just screams typical SA footballer. Slow maturing, good skills, not overly athletic. If Beau Waters is still available I am sure we would choose him ahead of Symes. Waters is the sort of player Gary Ayres loves.

45. Heath Grundy - Adelaide

Good junior career. FB, might as well stash some big blokes, might get lucky. Can you tell us something about him??????

Cheers;)

[BigCat1]

If carlton keep pick 2 after the trade period then Tenace is as good as selected.

[bulldogs54]

Good effort mate....but........

Take a good look at how many Draft Picks youve given Carlton after they have been banned from any picks outside of priority round (picks 2&5)....youve given them picks in the following rounds as well when there actually banned from participation arnt they????

And then not to mention that trade period will somewhat change the Draft order,....however if your absolutely correct then your a bloody genius and you can pick my Tattslotto numbers for me.

[Falconer02]

Well done weaver interesting to see moody so far up, Callum Burges not in and Pat Travers not being picked.
As a geelong supporter would be happy with chaplin but if Raph Clarke and especially Ryley Dunn or Brock Mclean was around would love him, hopefully N Ablett wants to play so our 2nd round may not be there.

[Yze_Magic]

if the Dees get Sylvia and Tenace you can pencil down a Demon premiership before theis decade is over

however, the Blues wont let tenace go, they will take him at 2

[Falconer02]

Never seen tenace play but Kepler is a star not only a big mark and good skills but s quick and suprisingly good at ground level.
PS: Also has filled out a bit.

[DaveW]

Originally posted by bulldogs54
Take a good look at how many Draft Picks youve given Carlton after they have been banned from any picks outside of priority round (picks 2&5)....youve given them picks in the following rounds as well when there actually banned from participation arnt they???? I think the only thing he's done wrong is put Carlton ahead of the Bulldogs in rounds three and four.

[Effes]

We are only banned from the 1st and 2nd rounds...we get a pick AFTER the Doggies in the 3rd round.

[marcuz]

Ricky Dyson will be picked by essendon at 13. He better ive e-mailed the bastards about him since i saw him play a tac cup game against geelong last year. Although im sure the bomber recruiting staff are on top of things

[year of the roo]

Originally posted by Yze_Magic
if the Dees get Sylvia and Tenace you can pencil down a Demon premiership before theis decade is over

however, the Blues wont let tenace go, they will take him at 2
hence we wont see a demon premiership in the next decade??

[bozza]

Originally posted by marcuz
Ricky Dyson will be picked by essendon at 13. He better ive e-mailed the bastards about him since i saw him play a tac cup game against geelong last year. Although im sure the bomber recruiting staff are on top of things

You legend!

[Falconer02]

Never seen tenace play but Kepler is a star not only a big mark and good skills but s quick and suprisingly good at ground level.
PS: Also has filled out a bit.

[essnickess]

if peel was picked up by brisbane, would they let him stay in melbourne to finish school?

[GOALden Hawk]

I forgot to add - no McQualter? But a very good effort, evaluating 2 players is nigh on impossible - doing it for 1000....you won't get much better than that.

[dasler]

Kepler is a star not only a big mark and good skills but s quick and suprisingly good at ground level.

I must not watch the same Kepler Bradley then. I'm thinking of the tall, slowish guy from WP who runs all day and for a tall doesnt take overhead marks.

PS: Also has filled out a bit.

Is that right? I might need my prescription checked because I'm pretty sure he still looks like a rake to me.

[Black Thunder]

Originally posted by dasler
I must not watch the same Kepler Bradley then. I'm thinking of the tall, slowish guy from WP who runs all day and for a tall doesnt take overhead marks.



Is that right? I might need my prescription checked because I'm pretty sure he still looks like a rake to me.


gathering your not a fan of Kepler??? I must say I was very impressed by him.

[Effes]

Weaver, I hope you dont mind but I have posted your Phantom Draft on The Blue View, just for further discussion.

Great effort on the list.

[Rooboy36]

I dont know about ben davies dropped off heaps!!! there are heaps more players from calder to put in, and i reckon mc qualter should be up in amongst the rest good attacking half back- on baller.;)

[dasler]

BT, on the contrary I think he is a predigious talent in the making. However I dont see a ruckman doing a rover's job helps his cause when he gets to AFL level.

I look at Kepler and i think aerobic capactiy enormous = Bandy.

I dunno with Kep, i sincerely hope he goes on to prove me wrong, i just remember Matthew Spencer as the best ruckman WA has seen in years and everyone ranting on about Kepler.

i dunno!

[Sera]

Originally posted by dasler
I must not watch the same Kepler Bradley then. I'm thinking of the tall, slowish guy from WP who runs all day and for a tall doesnt take overhead marks.

I think its hard to judge his pace because he just kind of jogs around alot. I have only seen him sprint a couple of times and he doesn't look slow. He might not take alot of marks but he doesn't bungle them either and will take more contested marks as he bulks up. On the upside I have seen him dive into packs and win the hardball. I see a framework that, with the right kind of coaching, will be a very very good AFL player... a 198cm midfielder in the Pavlich mold. I guess its a question of whether he can bridge the gap between the big man and small man game or whether he falls in it.

[GOALden Hawk]

Originally posted by Rooboy36
I dont know about ben davies dropped off heaps!!! there are heaps more players from calder to put in, and i reckon mc qualter should be up in amongst the rest good attacking half back- on baller.;)

Major disappointment for mine, Ben Davies. He hasn't shown anything to suggest he will be picked up. I think he has another year though.

Would be unusual - something like 90% of AIS players end up on a list.

[dasler]

Would be unusual - something like 90% of AIS players end up on a list.

Ever heard of Kurt Hinkley from East Fremantle GH? Biggest waste of an AIS/AFL Scholarship I've ever seen. Struggles to get colts games at East Fremantle and not even considered for State teams anymore.

Same goes with Scott Mathieson from West Perth who has deeply disappointed me as I thought he had the goods to go on with it.

[Bomber12]

Originally posted by Rooboy36
I dont know about ben davies dropped off heaps!!! there are heaps more players from calder to put in, and i reckon mc qualter should be up in amongst the rest good attacking half back- on baller.;)

Good point about more players from calder, what about dawson, clifton, bentick, douglas, iaccabucci, kent, maric, davis?

not sure if u had pinwill in there dare say hell get drafted, foley, travers? herrington, boyd, oswald, gauci, moore some of these players might be in the phantom draft but the majority i didn't see

[Weaver]

Originally posted by dasler

I dunno with Kep, i sincerely hope he goes on to prove me wrong, i just remember Matthew Spencer as the best ruckman WA has seen in years and everyone ranting on about Kepler.

i dunno!

Problem is Mathew Spencer is only 193cm. The trick is to look at players not in terms of how they play in the league that they are in, but in relation to the guys they have to play against in the AFL.

When you are conceeding height to Jeff White you better have some super-serious athleticism and leap to make the grade. Spencer doesn't. He was overlooked last year despite finishing 2nd in the Colts b+f (to Bradley) and could easily be overlooked again.

He will only be drafted if someone thinks he can be converted into a marking forward.

I imagine by Mock Draft 3, I could well have worked up the courage to leave out some of the 'name' players like Spencer and put in some of the very raw guys like Chester, Proctor and Attard who aren't much chop as footballers but have super leg speed.

[Weaver]

Originally posted by Bomber12
Good point about more players from calder, what about dawson, clifton, bentick, douglas, iaccabucci, kent, maric, davis?

not sure if u had pinwill in there dare say hell get drafted, foley, travers? herrington, boyd, oswald, gauci, moore some of these players might be in the phantom draft but the majority i didn't see

Pinwill doesn't have a position in the AFL. He is caught between being a CHF and a ruck-rover. Same with Gauci who is not quite a FF, not quite a FB and not quite and onballer.

Travers is slow. He is no better than Adam Fisher, and Fisher was rookie-listed. Foley and Oswald are similar. Every year some very very good midfielders don't get taken. The likes of Nick Gieschen, Abe Williams, Peter Sumner from last year come to mind. So much competition for midfield spots you have to be pretty special.

Boyd is flat-footed and slow at CHB. He looked out of his depth at the championships. The AFL insists that their KP players are more athletic than that.

Herrington will be interesting. I think that the clubs have figured him out now. Put a tall-quick guy on him (Thurgood, Mundy) and he runs out of tricks.

As for the Calder boys ... Maric no way. He shouldn't be getting a game for Calder. Davis was on the list. Douglas is 184cm full-back, that is too short, might be rookie-listed. Bentick is a rookie list chance. Iacobucci is just OK. I am not a fan of Kent, Clifton and Dawson but others are and that's just the way it goes sometimes.

[peggie_sue_10]

Mundy is a good player but I'd be surprised if we took him with a top 10 pick.

He's worth a top 10 with the way he played today in our schools annual boys vs girls footy match, considering he was wearing gumboots and rubber gloves coated in detergent he still managed to drag several of his own team mates through the mud:p

[YAKUZA]

"12. Farren Ray - Fremantle

They love locals. They love soft, unaccountable outside players with pace."

That comment tells me that you don't have much idea what you're talking about and you obviously haven't seen much of Farren Ray.

To emphasise my point further, have you heard of Paul Richardson from Swan Districts? I am sure you have and you can't fit him into the first 60 and yet you can find a place for the likes of Priddis, Chidlow and Adams. Maybe you just overlooked him???

[footyman]

Originally posted by Rooboy36
there are heaps more players from calder to put in
I agree. Weaver you only think 4 Calder Cannons will be drafted?? Surely McLean, Trotter, Silvester and Jolley will not be the only ones. There would be at least 6 more chances to be taken. They had 7 players drafted last year plus a few more on rookie lists... do you think there is less draftable talent in this years group????

[dasler]

Yakuza
That comment tells me that you don't have much idea what you're talking about and you obviously haven't seen much of Farren Ray.

Yakuza you have no idea do you. He isn't all that he is cracked up to be. RooMatera and I have already said this on another board and I HAVE watched alot of Farren and am telling you Weaver has it spot on.

Thats a big comment from you Yakuza as I have alot of respect for Weaver's views are they are pretty spot on.

[YAKUZA]

"I have alot of respect for Weaver's views are they are pretty spot on."

That makes a lot of sense, still for someone who doesn't rate Bradley that's about all one could expect. Maybe you can help weaver out re Richardson or do you agree with him on that one as well?

[dasler]

Yakuza if you go through I think you will find alot more people have respect for our views than yours. You come on and cause trouble where we like to speculate and chat.

This is a phantom draft atm, not confirmed if you already read that. There is still alot of things that will go on before now and the draft yeah?

As for Richardson yes i think he is a good player and is in contention and i disagree with alot of picks but i wont make some outlandish statement like you.

Go back, do some research then tell me we dont know anything

[YAKUZA]

Unlike you dopey my knowledge is not restricted to SF.

[dasler]

Unlike you dopey my knowledge is not restricted to SF.

That's a stupid comment Yakuza....you must be from East Fremantle. Never said I didnt know anything about other teams as you might see if you go and READ some of my other posts. Simply stated if people wanted information on SF I'd be more than happy to help out.

[Hosko]

Surely Ezard will be drafted from Calder. He has been amongst the best on many occasions for the Cannons who have been a top side this year. He has Essendon blood lines and i am hoping that we will take him with their 3rd or 4th round pick.

[Rooboy36]

Yeh nice work guys it would be exciting. im sure hartigan will also be amongst the calder bunch, essendon blood also!!! weaver can ya see if u can put together a 1-100 phantom draft for us? it would be interesting to see!!!

[CowboyFromHell]

Sylvia AND Tenace???

Sounds good to me! :D

[Weaver]

Originally posted by Rooboy36
Yeh nice work guys it would be exciting. im sure hartigan will also be amongst the calder bunch, essendon blood also!!! weaver can ya see if u can put together a 1-100 phantom draft for us? it would be interesting to see!!!

I anticipate that around 60 kids will be taken in the draft. There were 69 players taken last year. That is why I chose to go to 60.

I don't need to be told that trading will change things, nor do I expect the order to be even close to the mark. I was interested in challenging myself to put something out before the list of draft camp invitees was announced.

I will do a revision when the final draft order is known after the trading.

It should be noted that if 16 clubs take 3 rookies each that creates spots for another 50 or so players. I was interested in the top 60 and allthough many of the other names mentioned here are very good, my call is that they are not in the first 60.

As for the Paul Richarsdon sledge, read the thread title WA draftees (or something like that) and you will see him mentioned, by me as it happens.

As for the Cannons I am going to stick to my view that they are a very even side with few stand-out players. I certainly don't think that 1/6 th of the best players in the country are at one club.

[Undertaker]

Originally posted by dasler
BT, on the contrary I think he is a predigious talent in the making. However I dont see a ruckman doing a rover's job helps his cause when he gets to AFL level.

I look at Kepler and i think aerobic capactiy enormous = Bandy.

I dunno with Kep, i sincerely hope he goes on to prove me wrong, i just remember Matthew Spencer as the best ruckman WA has seen in years and everyone ranting on about Kepler.

i dunno! I agree Matt Spencer has kicked KB"s arse every time and will end up a better player.

[YAKUZA]

It wasn't a sledge mate it was a glaring omission on your part. The only sledge was your comment about the FFC and Farren Ray.

[jonathon.e]

Originally posted by YAKUZA
It wasn't a sledge mate it was a glaring omission on your part. The only sledge was your comment about the FFC and Farren Ray.

I greatly respect Weavers evaluations, but...

he is way off the money on Ray. Ray isn't soft. In fact he is one of the most courageous players overhead I have seen for years. He is a very very good player. Top 10 for sure.

Message to Dasler:
For a guy that seems to watch a lot of WA football you are a very bad judge of WA's two standout players this year - Ray and Bradley. Maybe you are basing your judgement on current rather than projected development.

[Sera]

Originally posted by jonathon.e
I greatly respect Weavers evaluations, but...

he is way off the money on Ray. Ray isn't soft.

I've seen a bit of him and I agree with that. He is very sleight and hardly a hard man, and won't win alot of hard ball, but I wouldn't call him soft. However, RooMatera's assertion that he left half way through a Peel Thunder game to take a girl to his school ball is a worry. That said, I do agree he is unaccountable.

[dasler]

For a guy that seems to watch a lot of WA football you are a very bad judge of WA's two standout players this year - Ray and Bradley. [B]Maybe you are basing your judgement on current rather than projected development.[B]

Not at all J.e i think Kepler is a predigious talent but my reservations lie in his performance as a big man.

As for Farren yakuza and j.e i honestly say im not a fan, thats just my opinion.

As undertaker said i like Spencer as a better player, reminds me so much of Primus but a little smaller.

Don't get me wrong guys I think they are very good players but i do base on the now as I'd rather see what players have now rather than "potentially"....qiute often potentially doesnt transfer

[8485]

Clinton Proctor can play - quick, a ball magnet, size the only problem. Expect him to go in the top 50.

[Monocle]

Great work Weaver appreciate your effort.

Kepler Bradley :I watched him in Melbourne at the recent U 18 carnival, must say he looked very impressive. Most of the crowd were talking two names from the WA SA game Bradley and Cooney they were the two stand outs.

[Yianni]

Originally posted by Sera
I've seen a bit of him and I agree with that. He is very sleight and hardly a hard man, and won't win alot of hard ball, but I wouldn't call him soft. However, RooMatera's assertion that he left half way through a Peel Thunder game to take a girl to his school ball is a worry. That said, I do agree he is unaccountable.

Not to his girlfriend!

[RooMatera]

Originally posted by YAKUZA
That comment tells me that you don't have much idea what you're talking about and you obviously haven't seen much of Farren Ray.

To emphasise my point further, have you heard of Paul Richardson from Swan Districts? I am sure you have and you can't fit him into the first 60 and yet you can find a place for the likes of Priddis, Chidlow and Adams. Maybe you just overlooked him???

First off, Good work Weaver. Agreed on most of it.
And to YAKUZA, unaccountable fits Farren Ray to a tee.
You must be Paul Richardson Mother?
No one else holds him with as high regards as you do.
He's still 17 years old.
On the WAFL Colts Team of the Year 2003
I See a Chidlow, I see a Adams, I see 'no' Richardsson. Note Priddis play to many WAFL Reserves/League games to be in the side.
Richardson failed to make top 30 in Jack Clarke Medal, and no where to be seen on the opposing wafl coaches award.
All that said. Hes a very good young talent, but won't be drafted this time around (Don't know his birthday, so may not even be possible?). Next year, he will have a good crack at it.

What has really suprised me, talking to some of the state colts, some didn't even recieved invites to the WA draft camp, while others have. Don't know what the deal is there. As I think its the AFL clubs who actually appoint who they want on these camps, so maybe they've seen enough of some players to assert them... ???