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Eago77
18 Sep 2003, 19:03
James & Primus IN
Che & Schoey OUT.

Kingers remains:(

Kid Dynamite!
18 Sep 2003, 19:04
PORT ADELAIDE

B: Michael Wilson, Stephen Paxman, Matthew Bishop
HB: Damien Hardwick, Darryl Wakelin, Brett Montgomery
C: Gavin Wanganeen, Josh Carr, Stuart Dew
HF: Byron Pickett, Warren Tredrea, Shaun Burgoyne
F: Peter Burgoyne, Chad Cornes, Matthew Primus
1R: Dean Brogan, Roger James, Nick Stevens
Int: Stuart Cochrane, Kane Cornes, Brendon Lade, Adam Kingsley

Em: Jarrad Schofield, Che Cockatoo-Collins, Toby Thurstans

http://portadelaidefc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=120547

Porthos
18 Sep 2003, 19:05
SCHOEY OUT???? WHAT THE ****????

Adam Kingsley, I dub thee GP.

Eago77
18 Sep 2003, 19:08
Schoey hasn't been playing that well, but i'd have kept him in, that's for sure. Still not 100% on Primus, would rather another runner (ie Schoey).

Porthos
18 Sep 2003, 19:11
Frankly against Collingwood we need every runner we can get. I can only assume that we really intend on winning ruck with the best ruckwork we've seen this year.

_espoir
18 Sep 2003, 19:11
WHAT THE @$(&*@&$F*@U$*@C&$*K!!!!!!!!


what are they on? geez schoey? is he hurt or is this like "lets play primus because its the finals?"

Eago77
18 Sep 2003, 19:14
Originally posted by Porthos
Frankly against Collingwood we need every runner we can get. I can only assume that we really intend on winning ruck with the best ruckwork we've seen this year.

I'd still be suprised to see Primus play.

Strange one with Che, he played alright last week, and is a big game (finals) player and can turn a match with just a few kicks.

Kingers must have some dodgy photos of Choco doing something!

Porthos
18 Sep 2003, 19:16
Originally posted by Eago77
Kingers must have some dodgy photos of Choco doing something! What -did- Choco get up to at Windy Hill? Still, I guess he's only one game away from that Norm Smith.

dyertribe
18 Sep 2003, 19:17
That is somewhat of a surprise re Schofield...

Of course Primus has to come in as he's captain - if he's right to play he has to... whether its good for team balance is another thing.

Jars458
18 Sep 2003, 19:17
Primus in is a bad move in my view, especially if it means Schofield not playing.

You don't need three ruckman when you have Tredders and Cornes up forward.

Just my view.

Hope you get flogged.;)

Porthos
18 Sep 2003, 19:21
I wonder if Brogan will stay in the side..

Eago77
18 Sep 2003, 19:23
Originally posted by Porthos
I wonder if Brogan will stay in the side..

I'd keep Brogan in, but Primus?????

Eago77
18 Sep 2003, 19:25
Aparently we aren't the only ones with an interesting selection:

In:BRODIE HOLLAND AND LEON DAVIS
OUT: TRISTEN WALKER AND ANDREW WILLIAMS

Wonder if MM saw that Kingers was still in and decided that Neon Leon's only chance of a kick this year was if he lines up against GP?

Porthos
18 Sep 2003, 19:26
100% fit or not, Primus is our best ruckman and has a heart bigger than Texas. I'd certainly back him to beat all-comers that Collingwood can produce at ball-ups and taps around the ground.

dyertribe
18 Sep 2003, 19:29
Originally posted by Porthos
Primus ... has a heart bigger than Texas.

Do you have sufficient evidence to support this claim? ;)

And he's the loveliest bloke I've ever had the pleasure of meeting to boot. :)

Eago77
18 Sep 2003, 19:31
COLLINGWOOD

Backs: B. Johnson S. Wakelin S. Prestigiacomo
Half Backs: J. Clement J. Cloke H. Scotland
Centre: S. Woewodin N. Buckley P. Licuria
Half Forwards: A. Didak A. Rocca R. Cole
Forwards: R. Lonie C. Tarrant L. Davis
Followers: S. O'Bree, S. Burns, J. Fraser
Interchange: M. Lokan, R. Shaw, B. Kinnear, B. Holland
Emergency: T. Walker, R. Betheras, S. McKee

Collingwood have gone small. Even have O'Bree rucking!! Although according to the AFL site, Stevens is rucking for us.

In all seriousness though, they've brought in two smalls, McKee is an emergency. Rocco to back up Fraser, both aren't exactly huge, leaving only Tarrant as a "tall" forward at times. Interesting...

gbear
18 Sep 2003, 19:36
Hopefully Port are playing mind games with Collingwood. I don't think playing Primus it is neccessarily the best option, even though he is an inspirational player and all, Port have won all but one game with Primus out.

Kid Dynamite!
18 Sep 2003, 19:38
Originally posted by Eago77
Although according to the AFL site, Stevens is rucking for us.

Well, he wants to prove his versatility when playing against his new club. :o

Anyway. Make room in your wallet Kingers, be sure to have that Gold Pass on show when the stewards ask for identification at the changeroom door.

blackdiamond
18 Sep 2003, 20:45
Im not too pleased with the side, Im happy with the ins but I disagree with the two outs.

Che played a ripper half of football against Collingwood earlier this year and kicked three goals before going off with an injury. In my opinion he was the player that broke the game, I think MM will be happy that he is missing, a big game player is Che.

Schofield should have remained in the side and would probably be one of our fresher players this week. He didn't get on the field for at least the first quarter against Essendon and with Stevens not playing that well I think it is too much of a risk to leave Schoey out. We are going to be stuffed in the midfield if James does his groin and if Stevens leaves his football at home.

So who should be left out instead?

Adam Kingsley should have been an obvious choice. He is a liability to the side, a ball magnet he is but his magnetic powers soon turn from positive to negative as he turns over the ball. Just what is Adams role in the side? For the amount of the ball he receives Im sure our taggers in Carr, Kane Cornes and Cochrane get more useful possessions. That means we have three negating players and one giving the ball to the opposition, I would have thought our three taggers would have been enough.

Damian Hardwick, this was a tough decision mainly due to his recent form but still a player I think we can cover. We have Wilson, Montgomery and Wanganeen who can play his position, not to mention the other taggers and midfielders who can play back.

We are far more blessed with midfielders who can play back than those that can go forward so the Schofield decision is a strange one.

Perhaps there more to the Schofield non-selection than meets the eye?

mic59
18 Sep 2003, 21:27
In the last 3 matches, the Showdown, the qualifying final and the semi-final Kingsley's performance has been marginally better than Schofield's. With the return of Primus and James and Cocky being dropped one of those two was going to go. Schoey hasn't a great finals record and seems to go missing.

Ray Nolan
18 Sep 2003, 22:47
Whilst I'm happy with the 2 in's. the 2 out's have me puzzled again. I thought Che was very good for us last week and is one of our few proven finals performers. As for Schoey, well his last 2 games haven't been the best but I was surprised that he was dropped. Just goes to show that 24 doesn't go into 22. Adam Kingsley, can you please send me this weekends lotto numbers?!?!

Pred
18 Sep 2003, 23:00
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Question mark over Primus. Please, Mark, just don't take half the game to make a switch if it's obviously not working.

But I love the idea of having Primus up forward (as long as he's fit), dropping Brogan across halfback, and Ladey in the ruck. Love it.

Don't like seeing Che going out. He can be a patchy player, but he seems to have the uncanny knack of having his good patches when much of the team are in a bad patch. Pops up at the right time, and likes the big stage.

Schofield's a victim of his own bad finals record. James will more than cover him in the midfield. I guess that's what they're thinking.

Wishinman
19 Sep 2003, 01:16
The great open spaces of the MCG would suit Schoey more than a third ruckmen. Unless Primus plays as a blocker to free space for the second tall forward, i think its a waste to play him on such a big ground.........Now i know why Lade got off;)

Poet from Port
19 Sep 2003, 01:57
As much as I like Schoey, he is predominately a receiver type, and that's great when the game is open and attacking (not usually finals). This weeks game will be an in and under game, so receivers are as useful as ***5 on a bull.

Andre
19 Sep 2003, 10:17
I'm happy with the ins like most. At first glance the outs gave me the ****s, with Kingsley still in, but on reflection Primus is coming in to a forward with some rucking maybe thrown in, not the reverse, so a forward had to go cover that and maintain enough forward/midfield/defence options in the 22. James in obviously means someone in the centre/tagging group goes for the same reason of team balance. I probably would have dropped K. Cornes, I think his form has been down more then Schofields in the finals, but that's the breaks.

You really have to forget Primus is a ruckman when looking at in's and out's and look at it like - fine weather and close checking football - so dropping a small(ish) forward and a receiving midfielder for a tall forward and an in and under midfielder. For an expected tough finals match in the conditions predicted I think the choices are close to spot on.

_espoir
19 Sep 2003, 10:46
Originally posted by dyertribe
Do you have sufficient evidence to support this claim? ;)

And he's the loveliest bloke I've ever had the pleasure of meeting to boot. :)

*ahem* i thought tredders was the loveliest bloke you met! ... oh wait.... :p

Pred
19 Sep 2003, 12:01
Apparently Port are taking a squad of 25 over - ALL players from the win against the Bombers, plus Matty, James and someone else. And they don't have to finalise the team until 30 mins before the game - so at this stage it looks like just about anyone could line up. More smokescreens? Is that how others understand it?

mic59
19 Sep 2003, 12:05
Originally posted by Andre
I probably would have dropped K. Cornes, I think his form has been down more then Schofields in the finals, but that's the breaks.


The stats say they're all pretty much the same. K.Cornes has had a total 14 kicks, 2 handballs and 4 marks. Schoey has had 18 kicks, 5 handballs and 5 marks. Kingsley has had 14 kicks, 9 handballs and 5 marks. But K.Cornes gives the option of tagging an extra player such as Licuria or Woewodin if required, which is why I think he was retained.

Eago77
19 Sep 2003, 14:10
Schoey over Kingers for mine.

Che a tough one, Dimma would go but as someone pointed out tough midfielders are important in finals (i know class Dimma as a tough midfielder rather than a slow small defender). If Matty is playing up forward for the most part (or that's the plan anyway), then Che for Matty is understandable, still not sure whether i'd have done the same thing though.

dyertribe
19 Sep 2003, 21:17
Originally posted by _espoir
*ahem* i thought tredders was the loveliest bloke you met! ... oh wait.... :p

I love them both equally ;)

_espoir
19 Sep 2003, 21:17
Originally posted by dyertribe
I love them both equally ;)


someone is turning :p

dyertribe
19 Sep 2003, 21:20
Originally posted by _espoir
someone is turning :p

Into a queen or back to queen street? :p

_espoir
19 Sep 2003, 22:18
Originally posted by dyertribe
Into a queen or back to queen street? :p


feel the teal! you know you wanna :p ;)