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Uncle Steve
19 Sep 2003, 12:17
In another thread, the question was posed:
Originally posted by |D_J^B_J|
Other than Robran, who do you think was the best South Australian to never play VFL?
This could turn into a good argument :D
In my own biased opinion, Peter Carey. Gave huge service to Glenelg and SA. Rarely beaten as ruckman, even towards the end of his career. Was the only ruckman in SA who could get on top of the Roosters' Redden-Parsons combo in the mid-80s.
Plenty other players would rate a mention. Garry McIntosh and Michael Aish come to mind. Ken Farmer never played with a Vic club did he? Or Bob Hank? Freddy Bills? Now that I think about it, plenty of players pre-'70s would qualify, since players tended to stay in SA prior to the modern era.
Paul Bagshaw, Rick Schoff, Brenton Adco ck, Eddie Fry, nah forget eddie 8-)
Leaping Lindner
19 Sep 2003, 13:52
Unbiased ;) nominations for me would be....
Tom Leahy - If you can believe what you read the best ruckman in the country prior to WW1 (see avatar)
Ken Farmer - Considering his record in state games on Regan (the best VFL fullback of the 30's)
Ian Mc Kay - Considering his record in state games on Coleman.
Two of the above three aren't in the Hall of Fame....hmmm
Jars458
19 Sep 2003, 13:54
Bob Hank or Lindsay Head.
Mobbenfuhrer
19 Sep 2003, 14:50
Grant Coffey.
|D_J^B_J|
19 Sep 2003, 15:40
Neil Kerley never played in the VFL, did he? Neither did John Cahill?
How many seasons did Russell Ebert play for North Melbourne? He was a superstar in the SANFL and had a brief stint in the VFL but was never able to play his best footy outside his home state, very much like Bomber Peake from the Sharks.
Ebert played in 1979. North tried to capitalise on him as a boost to its grand final side. Never worked out well enough.
For me it would probably be Ken Farmer..heard so much about his goalkicking prowess it would have been good to see him do that on the VFL stage.
GoalsFrom50Out
19 Sep 2003, 16:54
Did Graham Cornes? I know Geof Motley never did.
naughty monkey
19 Sep 2003, 17:16
Originally posted by GoalsFrom50Out
Did Graham Cornes? I know Geof Motley never did.
1979 for the shinboners, managed 4 games iirc.
Ebert was terrific the year he played for North Melbourne. It's a shame he didn't start earlier and/or stay longer.
Cornes was there the same year and was pretty average, he was only interested in the chicks.
Unlike the Sandgropers, staying in SA was the rule not the exception for our champions. ;)
But in keeping with the tone of this thread... Dan Moriarty, Jim Deane and Peter Darley.
Brad-clare
19 Sep 2003, 20:25
For what my opinion matters as a North fan Ken Farmer or Mick Redden.
EagleBlue
19 Sep 2003, 21:21
From what I saw (started early 80s), probably Aish, although like Wanganeen the stat "Frees For" were quite high.
Leaping Lindner
19 Sep 2003, 22:36
Originally posted by DaveW
Unlike the Sandgropers, staying in SA was the rule not the exception for our champions. ;)
But in keeping with the tone of this thread... Dan Moriarty, Jim Deane and Peter Darley.
As a matter of interest Dave, Jim Deane spent a couple of seasons at Richmond, and did alright.
Thinking (writing) out loud here some potentials would be.....
Central District - Barry Norsworthy, Beythein,
Glenelg - Marker, Carey, Eustice*
North Adelaide - Leahy, McKay, Farmer,
Norwood - Scott, Aish, Wedding,
Port Adelaide - John Cahill, Reval, Quinn,
Sturt - Bagshaw, Schoff, Adco ck,
South Adelaide - Moriarty, Darley, Laurie Cahill
West Adelaide - McGregor, Kerley, Head
West Torrens - Bob Hank, Head, Tom McKenzie
Woodville - Simunsen
(NB:Any Woodville player who could 1/2 play ended up in Victoria:D )
(* Central and West can claim him as well)
Originally posted by Leaping Lindner
As a matter of interest Dave, Jim Deane spent a couple of seasons at Richmond, and did alright. Oh he did? Must've been one of few from that era.
Leaping Lindner
19 Sep 2003, 22:48
Originally posted by DaveW
Oh he did? Must've been one of few from that era.
I can't think of any others of the top of my head. It also isn't widely known or indeed acknowledged in most circles.
1954-1955 ; 33 Games ; 17 Goals
So he went the year after winning a MM and then returned and was runner up on countback a year later in 57(later awarded retropectively).
Originally posted by Leaping Lindner
I can't think of any others of the top of my head. Bernie Smith, Geelong's 1951 Brownlow medalist, originally started with West Adelaide.
It also isn't widely known or indeed acknowledged in most circles.
1954-1955 ; 33 Games ; 17 Goals
So he went the year after winning a MM and then returned and was runner up on countback a year later in 57(later awarded retropectively). Interesting, so it was in the prime of his career.
Leaping Lindner
19 Sep 2003, 23:03
Originally posted by DaveW
Bernie Smith, Geelong's 1951 Brownlow medalist, originally started with West Adelaide.
I believe the expression is............oh der (how embarassing).
Interesting, so it was in the prime of his career.
Yeah apparently he was quite good with Richmond and they were keen to keep him but he wanted to return to SA.
Originally posted by Leaping Lindner
Leaping!
You forgot Garry..........
And we all know he would have made it, while I loved it when he decided to stay at The Parade, the rest of the country never got to see just how good he was, forget Jarman, Forget Williams, Macca was THE best exponent of the Handball in close or over a distance, he could also hit someone on the tits as well with his kicking............. you dont win as many Fos Williams's as he did without being able to play...............
Adelaide Hawk
20 Sep 2003, 01:28
Originally posted by Leaping Lindner
I can't think of any others of the top of my head.
Clayton Thompson.
Leaping Lindner
20 Sep 2003, 01:56
Originally posted by Davo75
Leaping!
You forgot Garry..........
And we all know he would have made it, while I loved it when he decided to stay at The Parade, the rest of the country never got to see just how good he was, forget Jarman, Forget Williams, Macca was THE best exponent of the Handball in close or over a distance, he could also hit someone on the tits as well with his kicking............. you dont win as many Fos Williams's as he did without being able to play...............
Pure oversight Davo. I was trying to think of 3 from most clubs and they were the first three Norwood players I thought of. Hey - I've had the 'flu :D
The thing I always thought was not just his skill but his build would have made McIntosh a star in the VFL/AFL.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by AdelaideHawk
Clayton Thompson.
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Ah yes!"Candles" ! Nice pick up AH !
GoalsFrom50Out
20 Sep 2003, 02:40
What about the Dex? Dexter Kennedy?
RoosterWedgie
20 Sep 2003, 11:17
Grenville Dietrich
McAlmanac
20 Sep 2003, 11:24
I'm going to plump for Bob Hank.
Closely followed by David "Sally" Saywell, Bob "Jungles" Ford and Geoff "Banger" Baynes.
McAlmanac
20 Sep 2003, 11:27
Originally posted by Leaping Lindner
I was trying to think of 3 from most clubs
And only came up with one from Woodville! :( I will add, er,.... :( ....
Sturt2002
20 Sep 2003, 22:03
The black flash
Uncle Steve
20 Sep 2003, 23:35
Originally posted by McAlmanac
And only came up with one from Woodville! :( I will add, er,.... :( ....
How about ZIP-ZAP???
McAlmanac
21 Sep 2003, 00:09
Originally posted by Uncle Steve
How about ZIP-ZAP???
What was I thinking????
http://www.geocities.com/woodvillefc/sewer.jpg
RoosterWedgie
21 Sep 2003, 01:12
Seriously though, easily Ken Farmer.
Adelaide Hawk
21 Sep 2003, 02:06
Originally posted by RoosterWedgie
Seriously though, easily Ken Farmer.
If Ken Farmer was any good he would have booted over 100 goals 11 seasons in a row.
Oh .. that's right ... he did :D
Adrian Shelton
21 Sep 2003, 22:49
Barry Norsworthy was at Melbourne for a couple of yrs, Bagshaw was probably the 2nd best that never crossed over(thank ****!!!)
Portmagpies
22 Sep 2003, 15:18
Too many names, it's like plucking a rabit out of a hat.
Aish went over and did about four pre-seasons with different VFL clubs I reckon and never stayed. A great shame, Norwood's greatest...