View Full Version : Crows - Power - Tigers trade
I posted this in the Holland to Melbourne thread but thought I'd post it here in more detail.
to Adelaide: Brendon Lade, Adam Morgan/Damon White
to Port Adelaide: Ben Holland, Pick 7
to Richmond: Ian Perrie, Nathan Bassett
Lade - out of contract, deserves more than the Power could justify paying him considering they already have Brogan and Primus. Can take marks around the ground which the Crows need in their ruckmen
Morgan/White - Morgan first but I'm not sure whether he wants to go home or wants to go somewhere to get a regular game. Otherwise White can play forward or back and is only 19 I think. Crows need a younger key defender who is ready to play next year. Both these two are ready now
Holland - Richmond want to trade him. He or Cornes can play back for the Power and the other forward. I'm just not sure if he's too old for what the Power need, but there aren't a lot of very good young defenders.
Perrie - Will struggle to find a spot in the Crows lineup if Stevens and Carey stay sound next year. Will allow Richmond to trade Richardson, Holland and maybe Ottens by ensuring there is still something up forward
Bassett - Appears out of favour with Gary Ayres, would be good backup for Gaspar and could release A Kellaway forward
I think all clubs win but let me know what you think
Originally posted by Russian
Fiora - Will probably be delisted anyway. Comes from Port. It's worth giving him a go for a year and see if he can live up to early expectations
Where on earth did u get this from? They have already delisted 5 players, surely they cant get rid of any more.
Originally posted by Borgsta
Where on earth did u get this from? They have already delisted 5 players, surely they cant get rid of any more.
Port Adelaide finished 4th and delisted 5 players, surely the team who finishes 12th can delist 8-10 if they're not performing. The reason I said it is he had few opportunities this year and Coughlan, Campbell, Johnson, Rodan is the Richmond midfield nowadays.
The trade probably still works without Fiora anyway
Perrie/Bassett for pick 7/Holland/Fiora would be closer to the mark.
Port being involved in that trade is superfluous.
Even then I still think Richmond get screwed.
Anja_Nees
5 Oct 2003, 16:25
Originally posted by Russian
Port Adelaide finished 4th and delisted 5 players, surely the team who finishes 12th can delist 8-10 if they're not performing. The reason I said it is he had few opportunities this year and Coughlan, Campbell, Johnson, Rodan is the Richmond midfield nowadays.
The trade probably still works without Fiora anyway
Fiora has been re-signed.
Robelosis
5 Oct 2003, 16:29
Perrie was being built as the next key forward for Adelaide before Carey arrived, doubt they'd want to give up on him now with the King only playing one more season.
Originally posted by Anja_Nees
Fiora has been re-signed.
OK that means he can't be delisted, it doesn't mean he can't be traded
Originally posted by Port01
Port being involved in that trade is superfluous.
Even then I still think Richmond get screwed.
How so? Port get their key defender (or someone to cover Cornes who becomes a key defender) and the Crows get the mobile ruckman they need.
Are you saying Richmond get screwed because Perrie and Bassett are no good or some other reason?
Originally posted by Robelosis
Perrie was being built as the next key forward for Adelaide before Carey arrived, doubt they'd want to give up on him now with the King only playing one more season.
I'd prefer to put faith in 20-year-olds Rutten, Parker and Hentschel than 24-year-old Perrie. The Crows have an old list and the youngsters I feel are more important.
mighty tiges
5 Oct 2003, 18:13
Originally posted by Russian
to Adelaide: Brendon Lade, Adam Morgan/Damon White
to Port Adelaide: Ben Holland, Pick 7, Aaron Fiora
to Richmond: Ian Perrie, Nathan Bassett
Holland - Richmond don't want him. He or Cornes can play back for the Power and the other forward. I'm just not sure if he's too old for what the Power need, but there aren't a lot of very good young defenders.
Fiora - Will probably be delisted anyway. Comes from Port. It's worth giving him a go for a year and see if he can live up to early expectations
I think all clubs win but let me know what you think
We lose our first pick plus Holland and Fiora for two average plodders at best :eek: . Ah.........NO thanks! Fiora has resigned for 2 years and Holland is going because although he very useful as a CHB before he did his knee he isn't worth the $400K he is on and so will free up our salary cap further.
Apparently Fiora is better than I thought. I've taken him out of the trade, see how that goes.
bionicsasquach
5 Oct 2003, 18:36
I'm Form vic so i'm not exactly sure about adelaides needs, but this trade sounds like the biggest crock of **** with richmond just getting screwed.
Also Russian you have no idea about Fiora or Richmond for thatmatter so stay away from it.
Originally posted by Russian
Apparently Fiora is better than I thought. I've taken him out of the trade, see how that goes.
Take Rich pick 7 out and you maybe onto something, I can't see Rich trading pick 7 (+ a player) for 2 avg. crows players.
sebastien
5 Oct 2003, 18:40
Adeladie already have Biglands and Clrake, so why do they need Lade? :confused:
Originally posted by sebastien
Adeladie already have Biglands and Clrake, so why do they need Lade? :confused:
Because Biglands and Clarke can tap and that's it. Can't kick, can't mark, can't run.
Tigerbob
5 Oct 2003, 18:43
Btw its pick 6...
And you want pick 6 plus Holland plus Fiora for too average at best footballers?
No thanks....
Good attempt though.
Originally posted by Tigerbob
Btw its pick 6...
And you want pick 6 plus Holland plus Fiora for too average at best footballers?
No thanks....
Good attempt though.
Good attempt???? biggest losers Rich, biggest winners PA how is that a good attempt?
Originally posted by feher
Take Rich pick 7 out and you maybe onto something, I can't see Rich trading pick 7 (+ a player) for 2 avg. crows players.
Just a question: Would Mark Stevens, Kris Massie, Andrew Crowell, Ben Marsh, Rhett Biglands, Matthew Clarke or Brent Reilly be tempting to any Tigers supporters?
bionicsasquach
5 Oct 2003, 19:11
Richmond ahve indicated they are interested in another ruckman, i'd take Biglands.
Tigerbob
5 Oct 2003, 19:13
Originally posted by feher
Good attempt???? biggest losers Rich, biggest winners PA how is that a good attempt?
i was jokin :rolleyes:
Originally posted by Tigerbob
i was jokin :rolleyes:
sorry didn't know :o
Trading Bassett would be madness. It would upset Adelaide's defensive balance. Particularly when all we're getting in return is a short term ruckman, and an unproven player.
And for Tiger fans who reckon Bassett is an "average plodder", take another look at the Adelaide v Richmond game in round 14 where he destroyed you guys.
Originally posted by DaveW
And for Tiger fans who reckon Bassett is an "average plodder", take another look at the Adelaide v Richmond game in round 14 where he destroyed you guys.
don't know if you are refferring to me or not but;
1) i am not a tigers supporter just stating that they get screwed big time
2)so basset was dropped during the season why? oh and one good game during the season makes him better then avg does it?
Stiffy_18
5 Oct 2003, 19:51
Russian, are you for real??????
No chance. Lade is about to sign with Power, Why the hell would we want Morgan??????
If that happens I am setting fire to the AFC.:mad:
Originally posted by feher
2)so basset was dropped during the season why? oh and one good game during the season makes him better then avg does it? "One good game"? How much football do you watch?
His dropping was a strange decision, rumoured to be for disciplinary reasons.
Stiffy_18
5 Oct 2003, 19:53
Originally posted by feher
2)so basset was dropped during the season why? oh and one good game during the season makes him better then avg does it? You obviously haven't watched too many Adelaide games or you know **** all about football.
rfctigerarmy
5 Oct 2003, 19:55
WTF!?!?
I think we would be just about favourites there... TO LOSE!
There is no way Lade will be traded. #6 + Holland for 2 average Crow players.. thats just wrong.
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
You obviously haven't watched too many Adelaide games or you know **** all about football.
what ever;
1) Originally posted by DaveW
And for Tiger fans who reckon Bassett is an "average plodder", take another look at the Adelaide v Richmond game in round 14 where he destroyed you guys.
He has mentioned one good game by bassett, ok so how many good games did bassett have this yr then? you can inlcude previous yrs if ya wish
2) rich need a fb do they?
Stiffy_18
5 Oct 2003, 20:01
Originally posted by Russian
Just a question: Would Mark Stevens, Kris Massie, Andrew Crowell, Ben Marsh, Rhett Biglands, Matthew Clarke or Brent Reilly be tempting to any Tigers supporters? Very unlikely to be traded:
Stevens
Massie
Biglands
Clarke
Reilly
Marsh could be traded but only if we get our hands on another ruckman. Crowell is up for trade.
rfctigerarmy
5 Oct 2003, 20:18
Originally posted by feher
2) rich need a fb do they?
No, we have three who can play that position. A proper CHB would be great though, thanks...
Originally posted by feher
He has mentioned one good game by bassett, ok so how many good games did bassett have this yr then? you can inlcude previous yrs if ya wish I cited one example where he was BOG.
Bassett's bad games would make a far shorter list than his good games. He doesn't often star but he rarely gets beaten
2) rich need a fb do they? I don't care what Richmond need. I didn't come up with this hypothetical.
I look at the trade and see what Adelaide lose and what Adelaide gain.
mighty tiges
5 Oct 2003, 22:59
Originally posted by DaveW
And for Tiger fans who reckon Bassett is an "average plodder", take another look at the Adelaide v Richmond game in round 14 where he destroyed you guys.
Even Biddiscombe had one good game this year :eek:. In fact that match you mention stands statistically as Bassett's best in his whole career (since 98). Over the last two years we have made plodders of the likes of Doyle, Bandy and Bassett look like stars such has been our woeful performances. Bassett's so good he was dropped only a few weeks after that game :rolleyes: .
Stiffy_18
5 Oct 2003, 23:41
Originally posted by mighty tiges
Even Biddiscombe had one good game this year :eek:. In fact that match you mention stands statistically as Bassett's best in his whole career (since 98). Over the last two years we have made plodders of the likes of Doyle, Bandy and Bassett look like stars such has been our woeful performances. Bassett's so good he was dropped only a few weeks after that game :rolleyes: . He would still be a walk up start in your team and team of many others;)
Originally posted by mighty tiges
Even Biddiscombe had one good game this year :eek:. In fact that match you mention stands statistically as Bassett's best in his whole career (since 98). Over the last two years we have made plodders of the likes of Doyle, Bandy and Bassett look like stars such has been our woeful performances. Bassett's so good he was dropped only a few weeks after that game :rolleyes: . I actually mentioned it because:
a) He was BOG - rare for a full back
b) It was against Richmond
NOT because it was his "one good game"
And he wasn't dropped a few weeks after that game, he was suspended.
mighty tiges
6 Oct 2003, 01:45
Originally posted by DaveW
I actually mentioned it because:
a) He was BOG - rare for a full back
Even Micky Martyn played his best game for the year against you guessed it - Richmond. We are so predictable and Richo-centric that playing against the Tiges is a opposition's defenders dream :(.
b) It was against Richmond
I wouldn't be saying that if I was promoting a defender :p ;).
And he wasn't dropped a few weeks after that game, he was suspended.
He wasn't suspended in rounds 21 & 22.
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Very unlikely to be traded:
Stevens
Massie
Biglands
Clarke
Reilly
Add Bassett to that list... we got him back from Melbourne, and I remember him saying he wasn't happiest at a Melbourne Club. I'd say he'd get delisted before traded, and i can't see that happening for another year or two... especially as he is an integral part of our defence.
Originally posted by mighty tiges
Even Micky Martyn played his best game for the year against you guessed it - Richmond. We are so predictable and Richo-centric that playing against the Tiges is a opposition's defenders dream :(. But was he best on ground?
I wouldn't be saying that if I was promoting a defender :p ;). Not even if Richmond is the team you are selling him to?
The point wasn't that he destroyed a good side. The point was he played well in a game Tiger fans would have seen.
He wasn't suspended in rounds 21 & 22. Like I said earlier, he was a shock omission. Rumoured to be for disciplinary reasons.