View Full Version : A Realistic Trade for Soloman
Kretiuk #35
9 Oct 2003, 19:33
From a Bulldog supporter
Essendon have shown interest in Jordan MacMahon, throw in our pick #34, would this sound fair?
Obviously you may have to trade with Richmond and their $hitty list, however wanting too much from the Dogs, would mean we'd pick him up in the Pre season Draft with our #1 pick
Don't blast me in a response, just post what YOU think is his value
PS - wanting our #1 & #4 picks is not an option, names such as Lindsay Gilbee & Eagleton are the other realistic options
Rayden23
9 Oct 2003, 19:36
That trade would not get Dean Solomon imo.
McMahon while pacey is as soft and scared as they come and a late pick like that is worthless in such a weak draft.
From an Essendon perspective, i dont see anything the Doggies would be prepared to trade that the Dons would seriously entertain apart from 1 of those 2 early picks.
Another Bulldog supporter's opinion, I don't think we'd get Solomon because of his asking price but hypothetically, if we got pick 6 from Richmond for Brown would you accept that pick for Solomon?
Captain Sensible
9 Oct 2003, 20:10
Originally posted by Rayden23
From an Essendon perspective, i dont see anything the Doggies would be prepared to trade that the Dons would seriously entertain apart from 1 of those 2 early picks.
What if we convinced Brown to see sense and go to a club that is actually going to be successful? You guys might have to sweeten it though.
Originally posted by Tank
Another Bulldog supporter's opinion, I don't think we'd get Solomon because of his asking price but hypothetically, if we got pick 6 from Richmond for Brown would you accept that pick for Solomon?
Yes. Where do I sign the paper? I doubt we're going to get a better offer than that
evertonfc
9 Oct 2003, 20:20
Pick #4 for Soloman and Jacobs or go home.
Mattlowry
9 Oct 2003, 22:15
Solomon wouldnt go in the pre-season draft... He would sign a contract with Essendon if no deal was struck.
Originally posted by Mattlowry
Solomon wouldnt go in the pre-season draft... He would sign a contract with Essendon if no deal was struck.
then why would he expect us to trade him?
Kretiuk #35
9 Oct 2003, 22:46
Originally posted by Mattlowry
Solomon wouldnt go in the pre-season draft... He would sign a contract with Essendon if no deal was struck.
And what basis do you say that on? Any source or anything at all?
Originally posted by Kretiuk #35
From a Bulldog supporter
Essendon have shown interest in Jordan MacMahon, throw in our pick #34, would this sound fair?
Obviously you may have to trade with Richmond and their $hitty list, however wanting too much from the Dogs, would mean we'd pick him up in the Pre season Draft with our #1 pick
Don't blast me in a response, just post what YOU think is his value
PS - wanting our #1 & #4 picks is not an option, names such as Lindsay Gilbee & Eagleton are the other realistic options
MacMahon: Absolutely not. Why? We've got Winderlich, Reynolds, Walsh. We don't need another skinny wingman. And besides, even though Reynolds is a skinny runt, he's shown that he's prepared to put his body over the ball, something I can't say that I've seen MacMahon do.
Solomon is worth a mid to late first round pick. If we want anything that's more like top 5, or even top 10, we'd have to throw in something else with Solomon. I've got no problem with that, but I think we'll definitely be looking for a first round pick for Solomon.
Do we have to deal with Richmond? They are surely going to give Pick 6 for Brown, and they have **** all I want in terms of players. Maybe get pick 6 from the Dogs for Solomon.
id love to send solly down to geelong, seriously, id laugh so hard...like hed be so out of place down there and its far away from his work and everything hahahaa thats what u get ;)
Kretiuk #35
9 Oct 2003, 23:36
Originally posted by Stevo
MacMahon: Absolutely not. Why? We've got Winderlich, Reynolds, Walsh. We don't need another skinny wingman. And besides, even though Reynolds is a skinny runt, he's shown that he's prepared to put his body over the ball, something I can't say that I've seen MacMahon do.
Well why don't you ask your coach Mr "Knowitall" why hes interested in MacMahon....
I said MacMahon becuz hes been linked with Essendon, or I wouldn't mention his name...
Dogs also have #19, may be offered...
Originally posted by bozza
Do we have to deal with Richmond? They are surely going to give Pick 6 for Brown, and they have **** all I want in terms of players. Maybe get pick 6 from the Dogs for Solomon.
No, we don't. But suppose we organise a trade with Geelong. Solomon is under no obligation to sign the clearance form that will send him to Geelong.
Originally posted by Kretiuk #35
Well why don't you ask your coach Mr "Knowitall" why hes interested in MacMahon....
I said MacMahon becuz hes been linked with Essendon, or I wouldn't mention his name...
Dogs also have #19, may be offered...
Where did you hear that MacMahon has been linked with Essendon? It seems that almost every player from every club has been linked with Essendon. Nine tenths of it is groundless media/public insinuation. So forgive me for being sceptical.
But like I said, MacMahon doesn't really fit our needs at present, which is I would be surprised if we were seriously interested in him.
Pick #19 would start discussions off well, what else would you offer? I think Solomon is worth a little more than that, don't you?
Kretiuk #35
9 Oct 2003, 23:47
Originally posted by Stevo
Where did you hear that MacMahon has been linked with Essendon? It seems that almost every player from every club has been linked with Essendon. Nine tenths of it is groundless media/public insinuation. So forgive me for being sceptical.
But like I said, MacMahon doesn't really fit our needs at present, which is I would be surprised if we were seriously interested in him.
Pick #19 would start discussions off well, what else would you offer? I think Solomon is worth a little more than that, don't you?
Yeah well we're in the same boat then, because our club has been linked to every player too... MacMahon only in development stages I guess Sheedy may view him as a "project"...
Soloman is worth more then pick #19, personally I rate Solomans Signature higher then anyone elses to the Dogs, but if ya went into the Bulldog Forum, you'd unfortunately see otherwise as our club was once tough gritty and gutsy, we're now pretty soft, espicially with Kretiuk retiring...
If we did get Pick #6 from Richmond, and from what some people in the Essendon forum are saying, I would give pick #6 for Jacobs and Soloman, but of course I don't know the exact amount the dogs can afford, so yeh....
The Dogs are also interested in Bolton, so its pretty damn complex, i'm not so sure on the future of Bolton, I don't even know if he wants to leave Essendon or not, but his name has appeared alot over the last couple of weeks..
Originally posted by Kretiuk #35
Yeah well we're in the same boat then, because our club has been linked to every player too... MacMahon only in development stages I guess Sheedy may view him as a "project"...
Soloman is worth more then pick #19, personally I rate Solomans Signature higher then anyone elses to the Dogs, but if ya went into the Bulldog Forum, you'd unfortunately see otherwise as our club was once tough gritty and gutsy, we're now pretty soft, espicially with Kretiuk retiring...
If we did get Pick #6 from Richmond, and from what some people in the Essendon forum are saying, I would give pick #6 for Jacobs and Soloman, but of course I don't know the exact amount the dogs can afford, so yeh....
The Dogs are also interested in Bolton, so its pretty damn complex, i'm not so sure on the future of Bolton, I don't even know if he wants to leave Essendon or not, but his name has appeared alot over the last couple of weeks..
It wouldn't be the first time we've picked up youngsters that haven't done so well from other clubs. Where did you hear that MacMahon has been linked to Essendon?
I'm not well acquainted with your list, so I'm not sure what else you could offer along with pick #19. But it'd have to be rather appealing, since I think we'll be pressing for a first round pick.
I read some of the posts in the Bulldogs forum pertaining to Solomon. I think you overrate Solomon a little. His value is in his physical presence, his ability to crash a pack, his ability break up heavy traffic, and his defensive skills. As far as skills and decision making are concerned, this year was very poor. 2000/2001 was much better. But even then, he was nothing special. He's not a dashing Chris Johnson type defender.
I think Bolton will end up staying. He's more valuable to us than Jacobs - who at this stage is looking like he'll be playing elsewhere next year.
Captain Sensible
10 Oct 2003, 10:51
Originally posted by Stevo
[B].
Solomon's value is in his physical presence, his ability to crash a pack, his ability break up heavy traffic, and his defensive skills. /B]
Thats exactly why he would be so valuable to us. We have no-one who can do that. Things were bad enough before Kretiuk retired now they are desperate.
Originally posted by localyokel
Thats exactly why he would be so valuable to us. We have no-one who can do that. Things were bad enough before Kretiuk retired now they are desperate.
Agreed, that's also why he'd be valuable to Geelong, Richmond, Melbourne.
dover56
10 Oct 2003, 11:23
footscray has got room to move under salary cap because last year they paid 92.5% and this year they are going to pay 100% plus brown has left. the only players at footscray who deserve decent money are scott west and grant, but in a crap side hacks like smith and johnson are probably on big cash, as well as darcy, who has never won a contested possession in his life. god i hate footscray
One-eyed Tiger
10 Oct 2003, 11:35
Yeah right,
Smith, Johnson, Darcy are all duds.
You forgot Murphy.:rolleyes:
Captain Sensible
10 Oct 2003, 12:31
Originally posted by dover56
god i hate footscray
Good for you.
Captain Sensible
10 Oct 2003, 12:32
Originally posted by Stevo
Agreed, that's also why he'd be valuable to Geelong, Richmond, Melbourne.
Yep, but we have a whip hand called Brown.
dover56
10 Oct 2003, 13:01
Originally posted by One-eyed Tiger
Yeah right,
Smith, Johnson, Darcy are all duds.
You forgot Murphy.:rolleyes:
darcy gets possesions on the wing by himself, good player but over-rated.
smith and johnson are very similar, should have kept one of them and brown, and traded the other
murphy is soft, but skillful. easy playing on the sixth best forward each week. different if he has to go into the midfield and get his own ball, and doesnt get to recieve handballs from the rest of the side that cant kick.
give me scotty west. if only he had of lived on the other side of the street he would have been a bomber.
The bulldogs are after Jacobs not Solomon
Darealrath
10 Oct 2003, 17:12
Melbourne have pick #5 on the market. We should talk to them.
bOmBeR_BoY1
11 Oct 2003, 11:14
Geez, I'll be glad when all this trade talk and draft stuff is over...
It's all getting too boring and complicated now,
I want the team stability back so we can start planning for 2004 ASAP.
Barmera roo
11 Oct 2003, 12:26
Originally posted by Lloydy!
id love to send solly down to geelong, seriously, id laugh so hard...like hed be so out of place down there and its far away from his work and everything hahahaa thats what u get ;)
If he was at Geelong on $400000 a year would he have to care about his work?