Official Crows Trades [Archive]

Jars458

16 Oct 2003, 11:08

Like I said on Monday - nothing will happen until today

According to the Age Website there are about 15 trades that will happen before tomorrow

They will fall like a house of cards once the Rawlings and the Brown deals are finalised

Collingwood appear to be playing silly buggers in the Stevens trade.

Kane McGoodwin

16 Oct 2003, 13:48

This thread may be a waste of time, as the Crows may not enter any trades at all! :confused:

dyertribe

16 Oct 2003, 14:29

Why try to offload our army of surplus midfielder/flanker types such as Bode, Mattner, Doughty and Gallagher and plum tradebait like Goodwin and Perrie when you can stick with what we've got and finish sixth and be belted by the likes of Tredrea, Cornes, Lynch, Rocca, Hamill, Tarrant, Pavlich, Medhurst, Farmer, Burgoyne One, Burgoyne Two and Milne at every meeting?

We should stick with what we've got for sure.

maccas_no1

16 Oct 2003, 14:53

Geez Im really disapointed in the AFC you cant tell me they were going to plan nothing or not to go after a decent player:rolleyes: Well Mal Michael, Luke Power, Daniel Bradshaw and Nigel Lappin have all re-signed with Brisbane:rolleyes: :(

Okay I will put this to you all....................Allistar Lynch................would you have him at the AFC for one season in the hope of winning a flag???????? Lets be honest he is one of the best FF going around, very hard to match up on;)

Thoughts????

Stiffy_18

16 Oct 2003, 16:50

Whoo hoo, the ice has been broken 2 delas completed. Holland a Dee and Gram a Saint.

Now Crows pull your finger out:)

MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl

16 Oct 2003, 20:34

Originally posted by maccas_no1
Geez Im really disapointed in the AFC you cant tell me they were going to plan nothing or not to go after a decent player:rolleyes: Well Mal Michael, Luke Power, Daniel Bradshaw and Nigel Lappin have all re-signed with Brisbane:rolleyes: :(

Okay I will put this to you all....................Allistar Lynch................would you have him at the AFC for one season in the hope of winning a flag???????? Lets be honest he is one of the best FF going around, very hard to match up on;)

Thoughts????

Nup. I don't think we would be interested at all. End of story.

k
xx

Stiffy_18

17 Oct 2003, 00:39

BREAKING TRADE NEWS:

THERE IS NO BLOODY NEWS:mad:

macca23

17 Oct 2003, 00:43

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
BREAKING TRADE NEWS:

THERE IS NO BLOODY NEWS:mad:

Could be a first Stiffy - not sure - if we go through a trade period without doing one single trade.

It's a real chance.

Mong

17 Oct 2003, 11:56

Sorry Kane, I know this thread isn't for rumour or other discussion but everyone else is doing it. I'm just followng the crowd. ;)

I don't know why everyone is getting annoyed at our lack of involvement in the trade period.

Personally I think it's not a bad thing.

It means all our efforts will go into recruiting through the draft, which means youth.

We will for the first time have draft picks in the first three rounds. This is a good thing considering our tendancy for trading away any good picks we have.

Hopefully we can get another Reilly and Johncock. At least we're giving ourselves decent odds at doing so, and best of all it won't cost us a good player.

However, I may be speaking too soon.

Mong

CrowBoi

17 Oct 2003, 13:16

I'm all for the lack of trading... As Mong mentioned, it means we'll have to delist some players, and inject some youth... :)

And to those saying now's a good time to trade Perrie... seriously... if we traded Perrie, we would get nothing like it in return, and it would be a risk. Perrie has begun to prove himself this season, and will only get better. We don't have to rely on him up forward, but when he contributes, he does it pretty well... he is our best 2nd tier forward... I'd even put him in front of Welshy, simply because of his hands above the packs...

Stiffy_18

17 Oct 2003, 13:39

The reason I am p|ssed off at the lack of movement is that we have players in our squad that are holding back youngsters. Players like Doughty, Gallagher and possibly Perrie so the likes of Reilly, Schuback, Parker, Hentschel and Bock get a decent run at AFL level. If we traded those players for pick or players that would address our weaknesses I would be happy. If we don't get anything I will be angry.

There is still an hour and 20 minutes until the end of trade period.

Fingers Crossed;)

bluecrow

17 Oct 2003, 13:47

This is probably a really stupid question, but do delistings happen today too?

Streaker

17 Oct 2003, 13:57

Apparently the Crows have been emailing their trades into the AFL using a Telsta Bigpond account.

Stiffy_18

17 Oct 2003, 14:01

Originally posted by bluecrow
This is probably a really stupid question, but do delistings happen today too? You have to delist by October 31st I think. Personally, I think we will announce our delistings on monday or tuesday.

Dogga

17 Oct 2003, 14:22

Swans Stevens now a Crow
1:13:44 PM Fri 17 October, 2003
afl.com.au
Sydney and Adelaide have struck a deal involving a move for Swans forward Scott Stevens and an exchange of draft picks.

Stephens will cross to Adelaide along with Sydney’s second round pick – number 31 – in exchange for two picks from the Crows – numbers 29 and 45 at the National AFL Draft.

The 21 year-old forward, originally from Perth, has had a battle with injury during his time with Sydney.

But at 194cm and 85kg, he shows plenty of promise and is expected to develop quickly working with the likes of Wayne Carey, Scott Welsh and his namesake Mark Stevens in Adelaide.

Stiffy_18

17 Oct 2003, 14:29

Originally posted by Dogga
Stevens will cross to Adelaide along with Sydney’s second round pick – number 31 – in exchange for two picks from the Crows – numbers 29 and 45 at the National AFL Draft RIP OFF:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

crowman

17 Oct 2003, 14:52

Swans' Stevens now a Crow
1:13:44 PM Fri 17 October, 2003
afl.com.au
Sydney and Adelaide have struck a deal involving a move for Swans forward Scott Stevens and an exchange of draft picks.

Stephens will cross to Adelaide along with Sydney’s second round pick – number 31 – in exchange for two picks from the Crows – numbers 29 and 45 at the National AFL Draft.

The 21 year-old forward, originally from Perth, has had a battle with injury during his time with Sydney.

But at 194cm and 85kg, he shows plenty of promise and is expected to develop quickly working with the likes of Wayne Carey, Scott Welsh and his namesake Mark Stevens in Adelaide

:confused:

yob

17 Oct 2003, 18:41

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
RIP OFF:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

We got a tall forward for pick 45. I wouldn't exactly call that a "rip off."

Stiffy_18

17 Oct 2003, 20:10

Originally posted by yob
We got a tall forward for pick 45. I wouldn't exactly call that a "rip off." I have calmed down a bit now and I think it ok deal

MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl

17 Oct 2003, 22:00

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I have calmed down a bit now and I think it ok deal

Phew!!! thank goodness you have calmed down.......you were an angry young man!!!!! :P

I say lets give Scott Stevens a go!

k
xx

Jerome

17 Oct 2003, 22:43

Originally posted by MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl
I say lets give Scott Stevens a go!

Agreed.

I was hoping the Crows could obtain either a proven young player (ie Charman) or someone who has been on an AFL list not getting a go (ie Seaby) who could take on a ruck/KPP role.

Essentially we needed to draft an impact player.

Someone who could step in and help out our problems areas. We have had only 2 wins from 6 finals games in three years. We needed to obtain a player that could step in and assist in one of our trouble spots.

Hopefully Stevens will be the guy. Good luck to him.

Our priority now is to draft some really good kids, give them 12 months in the SANFL and mke sure they are cherry ripe to step in Round 1, 2005.

Stiffy_18

17 Oct 2003, 23:02

Originally posted by Jerome
Our priority now is to draft some really good kids, give them 12 months in the SANFL and mke sure they are cherry ripe to step in Round 1, 2005. Agreed.

We really need to nail our picks this year. We must get a couple of very good kids and hopefully get a bit of a steal with pick 61. We might opt for a delisted player with this pick. As long as that player is young and is a good footballer I would be happy with that chioce.

Stiffy_18

17 Oct 2003, 23:04

Originally posted by MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl
Phew!!! thank goodness you have calmed down.......you were an angry young man!!!!! :P

I say lets give Scott Stevens a go!

k
xx I was only ****ed off that we lost 2 places in the 2nd round of the draft. I think Stevens is a good get and certainly better than pick 45 would have brought to the table. He can step up and play straight away if needed.

At 194 cm / 85 kg he adds a bit of height and with abit more time in the weight room he would be OK.

I think it was a good get.

This Stevo tickles your fency??????:p

macca23

17 Oct 2003, 23:10

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
RIP OFF:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Just finished watching the trades special on Fox Footy.

Their consensus was that we got a good deal for Stevens - they wouldn't have traded him for a pick as low as 45, as they think he has good promise.

They mentioned that he has already had some good games at AFL level with a bag of 4 goals in 1 game and 5 in other.

They interviewed him and he said he had had some discussions with Gary Ayres who said that he would be played both forward and back.

I think we've done pretty well out of this Stiffy.

macca23

17 Oct 2003, 23:17

Originally posted by Stiffy_18

At 194 cm / 85 kg he adds a bit of height and with abit more time in the weight room he would be OK.

I think it was a good get.

He said he's up to 88 kg now!! The overweight slob!!! :D

He'll see plenty of the weights room - that's for sure.

The good thing about him is that he's delighted to be coming here - as he said to a good club.

Poor bugger didn't even have a manager until yesterday. He had to engage one to represent him in this trade. :)

He's a country boy from outback WA, where he is at the moment. He reckons that he'll have to go to Sydney once more to empty out his room and bring his bed with him.

Stiffy_18

17 Oct 2003, 23:26

Originally posted by macca23
He said he's up to 88 kg now!! The overweight slob!!! :D :p
He'll see plenty of the weights room - that's for sure. I think a lot of our guys wiull get much bigger over th enext couple of years with new weights coach. The club is looking for someone that will give them results so our boys aare as big and as strong as Brisbane's
The good thing about him is that he's delighted to be coming here - as he said to a good club. I think thats very important. I missed his interview on 5AA today.
Poor bugger didn't even have a manager until yesterday. He had to engage one to represent him in this trade. :) Smart bloke. Managers are full of crap, they talk sh|t and get their pice of the pie too.

Jerome

17 Oct 2003, 23:46

Please tell me he didnt get Max Stevens as his manager!

Its about time AFC revised their weights training programme, we have been too light on for years. Hentschel, Bock, Stevens, Parker all need to bulk up.

Stiffy_18

17 Oct 2003, 23:53

Originally posted by Jerome
Please tell me he didnt get Max Stevens as his manager! I doubt it. It would have been someone based in Perth or Sydney. Actually Max Stevens looks after his clients well but I agree he is a bloody tool.

Its about time AFC revised their weights training programme, we have been too light on for years. Hentschel, Bock, Stevens, Parker all need to bulk up. Those boys really need to muscle up. McGregor could use a bit more beef as well.

Jerome

18 Oct 2003, 00:03

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Actually Max Stevens looks after his clients well but I agree he is a bloody tool.

Yeah? y'reckon, he looks after his players? Hows this for a track record:

Rejected a good offer from AFC for Mods and Mods misses out on a flag and gets sent Freo.

Convices Rehn to sue the SANFL, AFC and AFL. Cant see the AFC board welcoming Rehn back anytime soon.

Nick Stevens - puts the boy under some serious pressure and now wherever he goes no one will respect him.

He's tip top old Maxie. Please keep this midget mongrel away from the AFC in future.

MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl

18 Oct 2003, 11:12

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I was only ****ed off that we lost 2 places in the 2nd round of the draft. I think Stevens is a good get and certainly better than pick 45 would have brought to the table. He can step up and play straight away if needed.

At 194 cm / 85 kg he adds a bit of height and with abit more time in the weight room he would be OK.

I think it was a good get.

This Stevo tickles your fency??????:p

LOL - not sure Stiffy..........have only seen 1 photo of him and it wasn't great...........but I will assess him when I see him for myself. I can't wait to get down to preseason training :D :p :) :cool:

k
xx

noddy

18 Oct 2003, 11:32

Originally posted by macca23
He said he's up to 88 kg now!! The overweight slob!!! :D

He'll see plenty of the weights room - that's for sure.

The good thing about him is that he's delighted to be coming here - as he said to a good club.

Poor bugger didn't even have a manager until yesterday. He had to engage one to represent him in this trade. :)

He's a country boy from outback WA, where he is at the moment. He reckons that he'll have to go to Sydney once more to empty out his room and bring his bed with him.

Saw the same show & he gives the impression of a down to earth sort of guy & just your typical lad from the country,

He did ok in a couple of games i saw him play in last year & who knows he could turn out to be another Caven or dare i say it another Stevo,

Welcome to the Crows young Stevo hope you/us enjoy your stay.

Stiffy_18

18 Oct 2003, 23:53

I really wanted to get a ruckman this trading period so we could say bye bye to Ben Marshmellows.

I just don't understand why we didn't have a crack at Matthew Allen. I know he is not great BUT surely he would have been better than Ben Marsh.

Thoughts??????

DaveW

19 Oct 2003, 00:14

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I just don't understand why we didn't have a crack at Matthew Allen. I know he is not great BUT surely he would have been better than Ben Marsh.

Thoughts?????? Hack.

macca23

19 Oct 2003, 00:16

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I really wanted to get a ruckman this trading period so we could say bye bye to Ben Marshmellows.

I just don't understand why we didn't have a crack at Matthew Allen. I know he is not great BUT surely he would have been better than Ben Marsh.

Thoughts??????

I think 99.9% of us would have loved to say bye bye Ben at the end of the trading period - but not to be.

Allen wasn't a viable option Stiffy. Coming up 29 in January and an injury riddled crock, having only played 18 games in the last 3 years.

We'll just have to hope that we dig up someone in the draft or rookie draft that can be developed over the next couple of years.

I think Marsh is going to be around for quite a while yet!! :(

Sorry Kane!! :(

Stiffy_18

19 Oct 2003, 00:24

Originally posted by DaveW
Hack. And Marsh isn't??????:confused:

DaveW

19 Oct 2003, 00:59

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
And Marsh isn't??????:confused: Marsh = star.

Jerome

19 Oct 2003, 01:07

Originally posted by DaveW
Marsh = star.

If he is such a star why is he still uncontracted?

Now is the perfect time to delist him. He's out of contract, if we keep him on we've got him for another 2 years. We are not improving our list by keeping him.

Delist him and aim to recruit one or two ruckmen in the coming draft.

I would rather have 2 rookie ruckmen as our back ups than another 2 years of going nowhere with Marsh.

Is we can secure Hall (198cm) from South Fremantle and Dubenecki (200cm) from Glenelg or something similar, I would be happy. It would be a risk worth taking.

Stiffy_18

19 Oct 2003, 01:15

Originally posted by Jerome
Now is the perfect time to delist him. He's out of contract, if we keep him on we've got him for another 2 years. We are not improving our list by keeping him. We can offer him 1 year contract and boot him out next year. Meanwhile draft a couple of ruckman and start developing them next year

MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl

19 Oct 2003, 01:18

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
We can offer him 1 year contract and boot him out next year. Meanwhile draft a couple of ruckman and start developing them next year

Once again........I like your idea Stiffy. He should be on a year to year basis from now on. Hopefully we can pick up a young ruckman in the draft.

k
xx

Jerome

19 Oct 2003, 01:19

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
We can offer him 1 year contract and boot him out next year. Meanwhile draft a couple of ruckman and start developing them next year

I considered that but a one year contract is'nt much of a commitment from either party.

Cut him loose and go for some fresh talent to back up Biglands and Clarke.

MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl

19 Oct 2003, 01:24

Originally posted by Jerome
I considered that but a one year contract is'nt much of a commitment from either party.

Cut him loose and go for some fresh talent to back up Biglands and Clarke.

Unless Ben Marsh is deaf & stupid (and in reality he is not) or the AFC are feeding him a lot of crap........he would be very aware that he is on his last legs. I would offer him the one year contract with the option of a second year - but make it very clear - that this is his FINAL chance. HE needs to prove to US (the AFC) why we should offer the second year on the contract. It is now or never for Marsh - he needs to put up or ............theres the door.

k
xx

Jerome

19 Oct 2003, 08:07

A one year deal doesnt do anything for me. Its nowhere land stuff. Especially when he has had plenty of time and chances already. His time is up now.

Is Marsh an AFL ruckman?

No. He is SANFL level at best.

Is Marsh a player that can step up and help us win finals?

No. If he was we would have played him. The dropped mark against Carlton has not been forgotten. As our Captain has stated he wants to win a flag, we need players who are prepared to put their body on the line to do it.

Marsh recently struggled in an SANFL final (Mind you Centras tactics against him were quite good and keep him quiet.) against 2 ruckmen nowhere near AFL standard.

Why then would we want to hold onto a 27 year old ruckman who is not up to AFL standard?

The answer is we are desperate for talls but with the draft coming up we shouldnt be!!

Holding onto him means keeping out a youngster that could be a genuine prospect and a 10 year option if we are lucky.

Our coach has already stated that developing new talent is a priority in 2004.

They should be true to their word and delist Ben Marsh and draft the best 2 ruckmen they can next month.

noddy

19 Oct 2003, 12:42

Originally posted by Jerome

No. If he was we would have played him. The dropped mark against Carlton has not been forgotten.
Why then would we want to hold onto a 27 year old ruckman who is not up to AFL standard?

.

I remember that dropped mark all to well :mad: my first ever live final in Melbourne & that soft fairy like spill of a simple chest mark when he was on his own & with loose men up field turned the game completely Carlton's way,

Trouble is though if there is no replacement ruckman in the upcoming draft to take his place then unfortunately our Ben looks like being with us once again next year.

As for Matt Allen i would rather take a punt on one of the young sanfl ruckman that have been around for a year or 2, must be someone somewhere out there who could improve enough under a full pre-season to at least be put on the rookie list :confused:

naughty monkey

20 Oct 2003, 01:55

MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl

20 Oct 2003, 20:53

naughty monkey

21 Oct 2003, 13:37

Originally posted by MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl
1 He is over 30 years old

2 He has injury concerns

He doesn't fit into our plans. That is why we didn't go for him.

k
xx

1. no, he's 29 in February (in fact he's only 18 months older than Marsh)
2. So does Ben Marsh
Then wtf are plans??????
Are we chasing the #1 draft pick next year?
Ben Marsh is a dud. He's improved markedly this year with West Adelaide, presumably because of the influence of Rehn, but he will never improve beyond this level. Worst case scenario is that Allan is no better than Marsh....That's the worst. Anything else and we're a mile in front. For the sake of a 4th round pick and a Doughty or a Gags we haven't sold the farm to get him, so the risk associated with this trade is stuff all. I'm still fuming we weren't more aggressive when it came to Allan. This is one of the bargains of the year imo.

No doubt we will draft a ruckman with the first pick, but you're talking about a 17/18 year old that is realistically 4 years away from being able to make a significant contribution. (For comparison see Hille or Fraser or Gardiner). When Clarke retires at the end of next year would you like Marsh playing every week?

MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl

22 Oct 2003, 09:08

Originally posted by naughty monkey
1. no, he's 29 in February (in fact he's only 18 months older than Marsh)
2. So does Ben Marsh
Then wtf are plans??????
Are we chasing the #1 draft pick next year?
Ben Marsh is a dud. He's improved markedly this year with West Adelaide, presumably because of the influence of Rehn, but he will never improve beyond this level. Worst case scenario is that Allan is no better than Marsh....That's the worst. Anything else and we're a mile in front. For the sake of a 4th round pick and a Doughty or a Gags we haven't sold the farm to get him, so the risk associated with this trade is stuff all. I'm still fuming we weren't more aggressive when it came to Allan. This is one of the bargains of the year imo.

No doubt we will draft a ruckman with the first pick, but you're talking about a 17/18 year old that is realistically 4 years away from being able to make a significant contribution. (For comparison see Hille or Fraser or Gardiner). When Clarke retires at the end of next year would you like Marsh playing every week?

No I don't want Ben Marsh playing for us next year or any year for that matter. I am happy he got delisted.

That doesn't change my view on Matthew Allan though. He is not what we require. I certainly wouldn't play him ahead of Clarke or Biglands. We need a young ruckman who can learn the trade from Biglands & Clarke and be ready for the day that Clarke retires.

Matthew Allan had a good season a few years back and has battled injuries since and has never regained that form. Good luck to him at Essendon........but I am glad we didn't get him.

k
xx

Stiffy_18

22 Oct 2003, 11:57

Originally posted by MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl
No I don't want Ben Marsh playing for us next year or any year for that matter. I am happy he got delisted.

That doesn't change my view on Matthew Allan though. He is not what we require. I certainly wouldn't play him ahead of Clarke or Biglands. We need a young ruckman who can learn the trade from Biglands & Clarke and be ready for the day that Clarke retires.

Matthew Allan had a good season a few years back and has battled injuries since and has never regained that form. Good luck to him at Essendon........but I am glad we didn't get him.

k
xx Do you honestly think that a young ruckman can be a back up if one of Clarke or Biglands goes down with injury??????

Jars458

22 Oct 2003, 12:11

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Do you honestly think that a young ruckman can be a back up if one of Clarke or Biglands goes down with injury??????

Stiffy from what John Reid said last night I reckon we might be going for one of the other SANLF ruckman as a late draft pick

Options would be Scholer, Dabrowski or Parry I suppose

I think Lindsay is too old these days.

Stiffy_18

22 Oct 2003, 12:17

Originally posted by Jars458
Stiffy from what John Reid said last night I reckon we might be going for one of the other SANLF ruckman as a late draft pick

Options would be Scholer, Dabrowski or Parry I suppose

I think Lindsay is too old these days. Thats what I have been thinking although i am not very keen on Scouller. he is just a poor man's Ben Marsh.

Dabrowski I wouldn't mind BUT can he step up and play straight away if needed????

Parry is an exceptional SANFL ruckman BUT at 194 cm is he big enough to play as a ruckman in the AFL.

I still think Lindsay is the likely type with our last pick. I am not completely sold on his athleticism at AFL level but he will probably be a 10 - 15 minute player if one of the ather 2 goes down.

I see Parry more las CHB and I am sure he would be looked by Port with their bonanza of draft picks in 3rd round

What about that DeLuca bloke from VFL??????

Jars458

22 Oct 2003, 18:00

Originally posted by Stiffy_18

What about that DeLuca bloke from VFL??????

Does he live on the second floor?;)

DaveW

22 Oct 2003, 18:25

Originally posted by Jars458
Does he live on the second floor?;) Yeah upstairs from you. Guess you've never seen him before?

dyertribe

22 Oct 2003, 18:32

Originally posted by Jars458
Does he live on the second floor?;)

:D

Now if only there was a promising kid called Sliceofheaven...

Jars458

22 Oct 2003, 19:45

Originally posted by dyertribe
:D

Now if only there was a promising kid called Sliceofheaven...

If there was I would be Dobyn as you would no doubt go boom boom boom back to your room.

MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl

22 Oct 2003, 20:54

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Do you honestly think that a young ruckman can be a back up if one of Clarke or Biglands goes down with injury??????

No I don't. Thats why we are looking to the SANFL, VFL & WAFL for more experienced youngsters. Sorry, you can't convince me that Matthew Allan was a viable prospect.

k
xx

Stiffy_18

22 Oct 2003, 21:02

Originally posted by MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl
No I don't. Thats why we are looking to the SANFL, VFL & WAFL for more experienced youngsters. Sorry, you can't convince me that Matthew Allan was a viable prospect.

k
xx We need a ruckman who can step up and play seniors if injury cuts down Clarke and/or Biglands. As far as I am concerned Allen was exactly what we need and he would have cost bugger all.

The fact is that he played every game this year. Granted most of them were in VFL but if you look at Denis Pagan's record with big man over time, thats no real surprise. He just has a knack for destroying careers of big man in the league. Look at McKernan. He was struggling at Kangaroos, he leaves them to play for Carlton and has a fantastic season and wins B&F.

Pagan comes to Carlton and McKernan is destroyed. Allen would have thrived at Adelaide. You watch him next year at Essendon. He will be close to his best. Sheeds will do wonders for his confidence.

Do you think that we will get someone better from SANFL, WAFL or VFL?????

I doubt it.

MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl

22 Oct 2003, 21:06

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
We need a ruckman who can step up and play seniors if injury cuts down Clarke and/or Biglands. As far as I am concerned Allen was exactly what we need and he would have cost bugger all.

The fact is that he played every game this year. Granted most of them were in VFL but if you look at Denis Pagan's record with big man over time, thats no real surprise. He just has a knack for destroying careers of big man in the league. Look at McKernan. He was struggling at Kangaroos, he leaves them to play for Carlton and has a fantastic season and wins B&F.

Pagan comes to Carlton and McKernan is destroyed. Allen would have thrived at Adelaide. You watch him next year at Essendon. He will be close to his best. Sheds will do wonders for his confidence.

Do you think that we will get someone better from SANFL, WAFL or VFL?????

I doubt it.

Ok Stiffy..........come on, calm down! Your all fired up again! This trading period is bad for you health.

In order to save myself from being brutally beaten to a pulp "I wish we had traded for Matthew Allan"

happy now chook?

k
xx

Stiffy_18

22 Oct 2003, 21:14

Originally posted by MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl
Ok Stiffy..........come on, calm down! Your all fired up again! This trading period is bad for you health.

In order to save myself from being brutally beaten to a pulp "I wish we had traded for Matthew Allan"

happy now chook?

k
xx Not fired up:)

Just trying to express my opinion:)

Sorry if I came across as wrked up:(;)

MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl

22 Oct 2003, 21:19

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Not fired up:)

Just trying to express my opinion:)

Sorry if I came across as wrked up:(;)

hahaha thats ok - I was shot for my thoughts on Dan Schell's grand final performance (I thought he had a bad day) - so maybe my judgement isn't great! :D

k
xx

Kane McGoodwin

22 Oct 2003, 21:33

Originally posted by macca23
I think Marsh is going to be around for quite a while yet!! :(

Sorry Kane!! :(
Not sorry at all Macca! ;)

Stiffy_18

22 Oct 2003, 21:37

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Not sorry at all Macca! ;) One thing I can't understand, is why on earth did we keep Smith and didn't promote Parker??????:confused:

Apart from that i think our delistings are spot on.

DaveW

22 Oct 2003, 21:39

I'll laugh my head off if Marsh is re-drafted.

MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl

22 Oct 2003, 21:41

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
One thing I can't understand, is why on earth did we keep Smith and didn't promote Parker??????:confused:

Apart from that i think our delistings are spot on.

Yeah Aidan is a bit of a mystery.............lovely bloke, great character - should definately be promoted. I still think he will be.

k
xx

lozstar

22 Oct 2003, 21:43

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
One thing I can't understand, is why on earth did we keep Smith and didn't promote Parker??????:confused:

Apart from that i think our delistings are spot on. Obviously Ayres has him in his plans for next year, if he wasn't going to use him, he would have been delisted like the rest of them.

Stiffy_18

22 Oct 2003, 21:50

Originally posted by DaveW
I'll laugh my head off if Marsh is re-drafted. No chance;)

DaveW

22 Oct 2003, 21:52

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
No chance;) What do you know?

Kane McGoodwin

22 Oct 2003, 21:55

Originally posted by DaveW
I'll laugh my head off if Marsh is re-drafted.
I agree with Stiffy - no chance!

MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl

22 Oct 2003, 21:56

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
No chance;)

No chance after hearing Reidy yesterday.

k
xx

Kane McGoodwin

22 Oct 2003, 21:56

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
One thing I can't understand, is why on earth did we keep Smith and didn't promote Parker??????:confused:

Apart from that i think our delistings are spot on.
100% agree Stiffy. Parker is a far better option than Smith. I hope further changes are made.

Kane McGoodwin

22 Oct 2003, 21:57

Originally posted by MarksGirl-kbcrowgirl
No chance after hearing Reidy yesterday.

phew! ;)

Stiffy_18

22 Oct 2003, 22:04

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
phew! ;) lol:D

I think Marsh has overstayed his welcome at AFC. I think it is better for both parties that we parted. We need to get some new blood into the ranks and Marsh might still be a chance to play AFL footy with St. Kilda or Collingwood.

macca23

22 Oct 2003, 22:11

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Not sorry at all Macca! ;)

Neither am I Kane!! ;)

Kane McGoodwin

22 Oct 2003, 22:27

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I think Marsh has overstayed his welcome at AFC. I think it is better for both parties that we parted. We need to get some new blood into the ranks and Marsh might still be a chance to play AFL footy with St. Kilda or Collingwood.
Good luck to him elsewhere.

I will enjoy watching him play for another club, just like I got great satisfaction of watching D Gallagher play for Carlton against us. ;)