Straight swap

[The Clokes]

Brown and Rawlings
May still happen...

[morgoth]

Yep, tiges are pretty much locked out now.

[Captain Blood]

Originally posted by morgoth
Yep, tiges are pretty much locked out now.

Yep after day 2, the Tigers and Kangaroos have no chance of securing Rawlings or Brown so they best just shut up shop and hand everything over to the all powerfull magpies

[The Clokes]

correct

[Captain Blood]

you and your buddy moron should be banned for stupidity.

[Pevers-Legend]

Originally posted by Captain Blood
you and your buddy moron should be banned for stupidity.

Fair enough - but then not many posters would be left.

Anyway captain - perhaps you should go to AwFuL.com and see that the main article is on the possibility of a straight swap - so perhaps there is a reason behind the post.

[The Clokes]

thats where the info is :)

[morgoth]

Yeah real stupid, the other clubs refused to talk to them for fun.

They will do everything possible to screw the Tiges now.

[The Clokes]

A direct swap between the Western Bulldogs and Hawthorn for Jade Rawlings and Nathan Brown respectively is still a possibility if Richmond and the Kangaroos fail to come up with suitable trades for the star pair.

Rawlings and Brown, along with Port’s Nick Stevens and Essendon’s Dean Solomon, are the big fish in this year’s trading period after declaring they want to leave the Hawks and the Bulldogs respectively.



Brown has already declared he wants to join Richmond while Rawlings wants to move to the Kangaroos, where he would be able to continue his AFL career alongside his younger brother Brady.

However the Tigers have been unable to satisfy the Bulldogs’ trade demands to date while the Kangaroos have already been accused by the Hawks of trying to get Rawlings – one of the most improved key position players in the competition – for a bargain.

Both the Bulldogs and the Hawks have demanded a “quality player” in exchange for Rawlings and Brown – something which they believe the Tigers and the Kangaroos are in short supply of.

However each club would certainly see Rawlings and Brown respectively as a quality replacement for each other, given the ability of both players to kick goals on a regular basis.

While a direct swap for Rawlings and Brown still appears a long-shot - given their stated preferences to play elsewhere - Western Bulldogs’ football manager Stephen Newport has refused to rule it out.

“Maybe by the end of the week who knows?” he said when asked if that direct swap was still a possibility.

“It’s really going to get down to what the best deal is on the table.”

“We’ll weigh that up and obviously the players have got to weigh that up as well – they have got to be involved in that as well.”

The Tigers have believed to have so far offered only back-up ruckman Ray Hall as a swap for either Brown or Essendon’s Dean Solomon – an offer that will not satisfy either the Bulldogs or Essendon.

“When you are losing a quality player, you want to replace him with a quality player so we want that as a minimum and draft picks as well,” Newport said when asked what the Bulldogs would accept for Brown.

However the Tigers’ problem is they have a shortage of players other clubs are interested in – given they have declared their big three of Matthew Richardson, Brad Ottens and Mark Coughlan are not available to be traded.

The Kangaroos are in a similar position with Hawthorn with their reported offer of goalsneak Corey Jones for Rawlings not interesting the Hawks.

Hawthorn football manager John Hook said the Hawks would see “what the alternatives are” if the Roos cannot come up with a suitable trade for Rawlings.

And like the Bulldogs with Brown, Hook said the Hawks priority was to secure a player capable of replacing Rawlings in the side.

And with the Roos unable to offer any player that fits that bill, it leaves the door open for Brown to come to the Hawks as a direct swap for Rawlings – if the Hawks’ big man can be convinced to join the battling Bulldogs.

“I don’t want to be locked into anything but of course Brown is a good player, no doubt about that,” Hook said when asked if a direct swap for Rawlings was still a possibility.

“We are looking for a bloke who can make an impact in our side because that’s what Rawlings did – he came third in our best and fairest this year.”

[1jasonoz]

Originally posted by Captain Blood
all powerfull magpies

Thats an oxy-moron if i have ever heard it.

[BigCat1]

Some of you guys are absolute morons. Richmond has offered Brown $1.5mil over four years. Can Hawthorn pay this? :confused: no! These are conditions that Brown can stipulate for any trade involving himself.

How hypercritical are Hawthorn going to look if they offer Brown four years when for the past eight weeks they have been saying they only offer two year contracts? How would Rawlings fell? They would also have to find an extra 200K. ie trading another player.

This trade is never going to happen and is simply a smokescreen put up by the clubs. If north stand firm on their offer of pick 9 plus a player then I know who will win that little game come Friday.

[HighFlyer]

Brown simply needs to put himself into the preseason draft and the hawks wont get a shot at him. Richmonds bargaining power is pick 4 in the preseason draft. If Brown puts $400 on his head and a 4 year contract then whichever club drafts him has to pay this(player can choose to drop the actual monetary payment amount, but the initial price still goes on the Salary Cap). Once a player is out of contract he has the selling club over a barrel. They can't send him anywhere without his approval and he can always opt to go into the draft and the club gets nothing. Not many clubs have $400k in their budget to draft a player who has stated a preference to play elsewhere. History shows that very few players who have stated a club preference don't get to go where they wish to. Look at last year - Davis, Headland, Carey, Johnson just to name a few, in the end the selling club tries to recoup something well below market value.

[evertonfc]

Dogs would need a lot more than Rawlings to accept that deal.

[scooter600x]

Originally posted by HighFlyer
Brown simply needs to put himself into the preseason draft and the hawks wont get a shot at him. Richmonds bargaining power is pick 4 in the preseason draft. If Brown puts $400 on his head and a 4 year contract then whichever club drafts him has to pay this(player can choose to drop the actual monetary payment amount, but the initial price still goes on the Salary Cap). Once a player is out of contract he has the selling club over a barrel. They can't send him anywhere without his approval and he can always opt to go into the draft and the club gets nothing. Not many clubs have $400k in their budget to draft a player who has stated a preference to play elsewhere. History shows that very few players who have stated a club preference don't get to go where they wish to. Look at last year - Davis, Headland, Carey, Johnson just to name a few, in the end the selling club tries to recoup something well below market value.

Carlton could, and gladly would, take Brown before Richmond got a crack at him.

Common sense will prevail and Brown, Rawlings, Stevens and Solomon will all end up where they want to be - but whoever gets them will pay through the nose.

[Stocka]

Originally posted by HighFlyer
If Brown puts $400 on his head and a 4 year contract then whichever club drafts him has to pay this(player can choose to drop the actual monetary payment amount, but the initial price still goes on the Salary Cap).

First time I've ever heard anything like the part underlined above.

[nightcrawler]

Originally posted by Stocka
First time I've ever heard anything like the part underlined above.

The underlined part is correct.