View Full Version : Brown deal reported on Ch 7
mighty tiges
16 Oct 2003, 19:49
Richmond - Brown
Geelong - Hall
Dogs - Pick 6 + Street
Pick 6 + Hall for Brown :eek: That's paying too much for Brown.
Rodgerramjet
16 Oct 2003, 20:07
Welcome to Richmond Nathan Brown.
Thank Fu*k thats over.
mighty tiges
16 Oct 2003, 20:10
Originally posted by Rodgerramjet
Welcome to Richmond Nathan Brown.
Thank Fu*k thats over.
It's not official yet rodger. Only a news report. They said they're waiting on Hall to agree.
Rodgerramjet
16 Oct 2003, 20:14
Ok.
Do you think Hall will sign?
We need to be looking for another tall somewhere i think also.
rfctigerarmy
16 Oct 2003, 21:06
Originally posted by Rodgerramjet
Ok.
Do you think Hall will sign?
We need to be looking for another tall somewhere i think also.
Morrison from the Lions looks to be the likely one.
mighty tiges - great idea to try and get Bowden traded for a first rounder.
kretchy
16 Oct 2003, 21:57
Originally posted by Rodgerramjet
Ok.
Do you think Hall will sign?
We need to be looking for another tall somewhere i think also.
Read or heard someone say Hall is supposedly 80% likely to sign.
The good thing about this trade is that we keep both picks 20 & 21 leaving us with two early second round picks, although it leaves us really short.
I wouldn't be suprised if one of this picks is traded in another deal tomorrow.
miller said if hall wants 2 stay at tigers they will either trade pick 20 or 21
rfctigerarmy
16 Oct 2003, 22:11
Originally posted by sante2003
miller said if hall wants 2 stay at tigers they will either trade pick 20 or 21
If we do trade Hall, we will probably have to have Ottens or Stafford back in defence for most of the year to cover the opposition forwards even if AK, Gas and Zanners stay fit. It doesnt worry me either way but I hope they have thought this through!
Originally posted by mighty tiges
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Pick 6 + Hall for Brown :eek: That's paying too much for Brown.
I disagree! If we'd parted with Pettifer and Hall for Brown, we would be a mile in front. Given our recent history with 1st round selections, paying pick 6 isn't a big price.
All I hope is that Miller is now free to try and trade back into the 1st round.
GhostofJimJess
17 Oct 2003, 00:06
Originally posted by CJH
All I hope is that Miller is now free to try and trade back into the 1st round.
Surely that must be in the forefront of their minds now. We must access some youthful height via the draft.
mighty tiges
17 Oct 2003, 00:25
Brown deal on the verge
6:51:20 PM Thu 16 October, 2003
Paul Gough
afl.com.au
Nathan Brown is set to become a Richmond player after the Tigers and the Western Bulldogs agreed to a complicated three-way deal involving Geelong late on Thursday afternoon.
Under the deal the Bulldogs will not only get the Tigers’ first round draft pick – selection six – but also promising Geelong ruckman Peter Street.
The Cats will gain Richmond ruckman Ray Hall while the Tigers will get the exciting Brown, who has been the Tigers’ major recruiting aim throughout trading week.
Under the deal the Bulldogs will also keep their own second round draft pick – selection 19 – after first trading it to Geelong in exchange for Street.
The Cats will then give that selection 19 to Richmond for Hall with the Tigers then trading the pick back to the Bulldogs – along with pick six – for Brown.
And the Bulldogs could yet use pick six from Richmond to secure Jade Rawlings from Hawthorn after the Hawks and the Kangaroos – Rawling’s preferred club – were still unable to come up with a suitable deal on the penultimate day of AFL trading.
The only stumbling block to the Brown deal – which prevented it from being officially signed off on Thursday night – is whether Hall will agree to move to Skilled Stadium.
However both Bulldog and Tiger officials stressed the deal would still go through even if Hall decided to remain at Punt Road.
Under that scenario the Tigers would then give either pick 20 – which they secured on Thursday off Melbourne in exchange for Ben Holland – or their own second round draft pick – selection 21 – to the Bulldogs, who would then on-trade it to Geelong in return for the 208cm Street.
Richmond football operations manager Greg Miller, who saw his dreams of also enticing Essendon’s Dean Solomon to Punt Road earlier in the week fall through when Solomon agreed to stay at Windy Hill, assured Tiger fans on Thursday night the deal for Brown would officially go through before Friday’s 2pm trade deadline.
“It will go through. Nathan Brown will definitely be a Richmond player,” Miller told afl.com.au late on Thursday afternoon.
“The Bulldogs and Richmond have agreed to a trade, there is just one part of it (Hall to Geelong) that still has to be decided and that’s why the paperwork (confirming the trade with the AFL) has not yet been lodged.”
The securing of the exciting Brown is a major coup for Richmond – which is desperate to give its army of long-suffering fans reason to look forward to 2004 after two bottom four finishes since reaching the 2001 preliminary final.
At 25 and with 137 games to his credit Brown is at the peak of his AFL career.
And the Tigers see Brown as the answer to their lack of strikepower and over-reliance on Matthew Richardson in attack given that he kicked 56 goals this season in a side which only won three games for the season.
However despite losing Brown, the Bulldogs are happy with their end of the deal.
The Dogs had little choice but to agree to a deal with Richmond after Brown threatened to nominate for the pre-season draft unless the Dogs agreed to a trade.
That would have then seen the Bulldogs receive no compensation for losing one of their best players.
“We’ve effectively got Peter Street and pick six for Brown,” Bulldogs’ media manager Damian Glass told afl.com.au on Thursday night.
“And we are still hoping we can do something with pick six tomorrow (Friday) because it is a prized selection.”
The Dogs are hoping to entice star Hawk Rawlings to the Whitten Oval before Friday’s deadline in exchange for pick six which would still leave them with the prized number one and four selections in the November 22 national draft.
And the Bulldogs also have the option of claiming Rawlings – third in the Hawks’ best and fairest in 2003 and a player capable of playing as either a key forward or a key defender – with the first selection in the pre-season draft should the Hawks and the Kangaroos fail to agree to a trade deal on Friday.
mighty tiges
17 Oct 2003, 02:40
Originally posted by CJH
If we'd parted with Pettifer and Hall for Brown, we would be a mile in front. Given our recent history with 1st round selections, paying pick 6 isn't a big price.
I agree if we traded Pettifer and Hall for Brown we'd all be doing cartwheels as it would really be only Hall for Brown :D ;). However if we traded what ends up another Pavlich plus Hall for Brown we'd be kicking ourselves.
We're not going to get anywhere as a Club continually offloading our first round draft picks even for experienced quality players because we're too scared of choosing duds again or can't develop enough of our own youngsters. That's not thinking long-term. Better off replacing those responsible for repeatedly stuffing up our first round draft choices. Noone's going to get every single choice right but at least more than one would be nice :(.
The premiership winning clubs develop their own quality core group from talented youth via the draft then top-up with players from other clubs at a later stage.
All I hope is that Miller is now free to try and trade back into the 1st round.
I hope so too. Would be alot happier if that happens as we would regain our full quota of picks in each round and in turn we would have offloaded some of our overrated and overpaid players that were continually letting us down.
Agree with Ghost. We need to draft some talls especially a KP backman.
Ray Hall must have opted out of Geelong! We give up picks 6 and 20 for Brown.
Snibbo_TJS
17 Oct 2003, 16:29
Ray Hall must have opted out of Geelong! We give up picks 6 and 20 for Brown.
I hope this is not true. I don’t want to waste our first two drafts on Brown no matter how good he is. We need to be able to draft some good young players.
mighty tiges
17 Oct 2003, 16:46
Originally posted by Snibbo_TJS
I hope this is not true. I don’t want to waste our first two drafts on Brown no matter how good he is. We need to be able to draft some good young players.
It's sadly true.
GhostofJimJess
17 Oct 2003, 17:50
How about we just imagine that we've still got Pick 6, and that we use it up on a hot youngster named Nathan Brown who seems, in next years Wizard Cup, to have matured very quickly, and could even be in our starting line-up for Round 1 against Collingwood.
As for losing Dutchy ... let's just pretend he was just delisted to free up $200,000.
So with a small dose of doublethink, we haven't given up anything ... right !?
There was only one thing i wanted out of this draft was not to give up our early draft picks for "any" player. I think we could have done better with a trade and a later pick for Brown.
Not happy about this, but what can you do. Brown will be good for us, but i was hoping they would look beyond today and into the future and start developing a new crop to take over from the senior experience we're about to lose over the next couple of seasons.