View Full Version : Scott Stevens stats (and some Perrie ones)
Hello fellow Adelaide supporters. I am jmorg1 and I'll be your stats man.
Scott Stevens played 11 games in 2003 for an average of 4.3 kicks, 2.4 handballs, 2.9 marks and 0.45 goals a game. He has a conversion rate of 62.5% (goals/shots).
In 2002, Scott Stevens played 14 games for an average of 4.5 kicks, 1.0 handballs, 2.6 marks and 0.86 goals a game with 70.6% conversion rate.
I would nominate S.Steven's best game in 2003 as the game vs Geelong in Round 8 where he had 7 kicks, 3 handballs, 6 marks and 2 goals.
For those of you who would compare him with Perrie, I would think Perrie is streaks ahead.
Perrie played 22 games in 2003 for an average of 7.7 kicks, 3.0 handballs, 5.2 marks and 1.2 goals a game with a 61.9% conversion rate.
IMO, Perrie's best game would be vs Melbourne in Round 12 where he had 11 kicks, 4 handballs, 7 marks and 6 goals.
I hope you found that interesting :)
MaccasNeighbour
17 Oct 2003, 16:00
Originally posted by jmorg1
Hello fellow Adelaide supporters. I am jmorg1 and I'll be your stats man.
Scott Stevens played 11 games in 2003 for an average of 4.3 kicks, 2.4 handballs, 2.9 marks and 0.45 goals a game. He has a conversion rate of 62.5% (goals/shots).
In 2002, Scott Stevens played 14 games for an average of 4.5 kicks, 1.0 handballs, 2.6 marks and 0.86 goals a game with 70.6% conversion rate.
I would nominate S.Steven's best game in 2003 as the game vs Geelong in Round 8 where he had 7 kicks, 3 handballs, 6 marks and 2 goals.
For those of you who would compare him with Perrie, I would think Perrie is streaks ahead.
Perrie played 22 games in 2003 for an average of 7.7 kicks, 3.0 handballs, 5.2 marks and 1.2 goals a game with a 61.9% conversion rate.
IMO, Perrie's best game would be vs Melbourne in Round 12 where he had 11 kicks, 4 handballs, 7 marks and 6 goals.
I hope you found that interesting :)
Thanks for the stats.
We give Perrie a pretty hard time on this board, including myself. I don't think it's that he's that bad a player, I think it's the fact that he has the potential to be so much better.
It's frustrating to watch a bloke who has the body, the athleticism but not the brains to be a great player.
Bockchoy67
17 Oct 2003, 17:43
Originally posted by MaccasNeighbour
Thanks for the stats.
We give Perrie a pretty hard time on this board, including myself. I don't think it's that he's that bad a player, I think it's the fact that he has the potential to be so much better.
It's frustrating to watch a bloke who has the body, the athleticism but not the brains to be a great player.
Spot on MaccasNeighbour,
Perrie is actually one of our better player for the year. Although he hasn't been consistent, and he kicked like a dog on occasions, his games that he was switched on were very good. Especially against Melbourne. 4 goals in fifteen minutes is a great achievement.
I also agree on your last statement. He has everything, except brains. He usually kicks to the wrong person or kicks in dangerous areas, which is a shame because he's close to perfect in terms of athleticism and size.
spindoctor
17 Oct 2003, 19:00
Perrie was at his best when he was carrying the forward line as its main tall target. I think he got a bit lost playing alongside Carey and another tall.
When he was a key target he was the main focus and he opened up a lot of space and led well. No coincidence our best period of the year came with him as the only key forward.
Crow-mosone
17 Oct 2003, 20:39
perrie took twice as many contested marks in our forward 50 this year, than any other player on the AFC list.
macca23
17 Oct 2003, 21:01
Not big stats there, jmorg1.
One relevant fact that is missing and probably not available, is how much time each player spent on the ground. Without this there can't be a true comparison.
spindoctor
19 Oct 2003, 14:56
Are y'all hating on Perrie, macca23? Word to the Perrie, we should dump Carey and play Perrie as permanent full-forward, could work well just having smallers like Schuback and Johncock around him while Stevens opens up CHF.
macca23
19 Oct 2003, 15:19
Originally posted by spindoctor
Are y'all hating on Perrie, macca23? Word to the Perrie, we should dump Carey and play Perrie as permanent full-forward, could work well just having smallers like Schuback and Johncock around him while Stevens opens up CHF.
No, I don't hate Perrie. I actually respect him for what he achieved this season with what I regard as below average talent. He had a pretty good year.
However, where we differ is that IMO if we have to rely on Perrie as our key forward, then we will never win a flag.
That's not hate. It's just facing reality.
You are right. Although it would be great if we could measure a player's worth in terms of minutes played, in footy it is virtually impossible to keep up with the rotations unless you have someone dedicated and actually sitting on the grounds near the bench watching who goes in and out all the while monitoring the time elapsed since the quarter started.
Originally posted by jmorg1
You are right. Although it would be great if we could measure a player's worth in terms of minutes played, in footy it is virtually impossible to keep up with the rotations unless you have someone dedicated and actually sitting on the grounds near the bench watching who goes in and out all the while monitoring the time elapsed since the quarter started.
I think you'll find that information is collected. The TV channels normally show at 3/4 time the amount of time the "bench players" have had as a measure of the fresh legs available to each team.
However, it is probably unlikely that the collated info is readily available in a public forum.
Perrie is some 3 or so years older than Stevens, is he not?
I'd say Stevens has done more at AFL level than Perrie had done at the same age, and is the one with greater room for improvement.
macca23
20 Oct 2003, 13:51
Originally posted by DaveW
Perrie is some 3 or so years older than Stevens, is he not?
I'd say Stevens has done more at AFL level than Perrie had done at the same age, and is the one with greater room for improvement.
Correct.
Perrie is just shy of 3 years older than Stevens.
At the same age as Stevens, he had played 12 AFL games as compared with Stevens 25.
Stiffy_18
20 Oct 2003, 14:36
Originally posted by liz
However, it is probably unlikely that the collated info is readily available in a public forum. I am not sure how it goes in Sydney, but in Adelaide there is a Monday Footy section in the paper which has all the stats from every game played on the weekend. It shows pretty much everything including minuted played by a player.
And I agree with DaveW and macca23, Stevens is some 3 years younger than Perrie and if we are comparing apples with apples then Stevens would have done more at the age of 21 than Perrie did.
And hopefully Stevens has better recovery and footy smarts than Perrie. As much as I admire Perrie's effort and guts, he drives me mad with his poor recovery and lack of footy brain.
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I am not sure how it goes in Sydney, but in Adelaide there is a Monday Footy section in the paper which has all the stats from every game played on the weekend. It shows pretty much everything including minuted played by a player.
Really? You mean the Advertiser? Does it show stuff like contested marks, hard ball gets, effective kicks, inside 50m etc as well?
Stiffy_18
20 Oct 2003, 15:26
Originally posted by jmorg1
Really? You mean the Advertiser? Does it show stuff like contested marks, hard ball gets, effective kicks, inside 50m etc as well? Yes the Advertiser.
They don't show contested marks, hardball gets effective kicks but they do show clearences, inside 50s, outside 50s, clangers and minutes played.
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I am not sure how it goes in Sydney, but in Adelaide there is a Monday Footy section in the paper which has all the stats from every game played on the weekend. It shows pretty much everything including minuted played by a player.
In the Sydney papers you'd be hard pressed to find anything other than the results and a report on the Swans game. Other games may get a few column inches but definitely no room to report any stats alongside the 12 pages of RL analysis. Not sure what people did before the internet came along!
And hopefully Stevens has better recovery and footy smarts than Perrie. As much as I admire Perrie's effort and guts, he drives me mad with his poor recovery and lack of footy brain.
Don't get your hopes up too high. Stevens has some decent qualities but speed - either of foot or brain - haven't been particularly evident so far.