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That Delta Goodrem special channel 10 screened last night.
How courageous is this young women?
Fancy having to put up with a bag of wa-nk such as Johnny Farnham interrupting your own show and them wiggles too. They can **** right off they can. Next time I see someone in a skivvy, I’ll kick them in the nut sack, just for looking like one of those turds. She handled their interruptions quite well.
When that two bit sodomite from Savage Garden sang one of her numbers, I think she summed up the whole night when she wept uncontrollably.
Leave Delta alone. She is a champ (and a hottie too). It's not her fault that she is talented and has a disease, so the media focus on her.
Tall Poppy Syndrome.
magicman
22 Oct 2003, 20:42
Originally posted by Stevo
I'm sick of her.
My thoughts exactly. Enough already!!:(
Mr Eagle
23 Oct 2003, 14:07
Delta is not the problem. The Delta Marketing Machine (TM) is the problem.
Lenny29
23 Oct 2003, 18:46
So when Delta's out of the spotlight for the next six months or so, who's going to be the next target for the sufferers of tall poppy syndrome?
Ridiculous, really.
Birssys_girl
23 Oct 2003, 20:16
Originally posted by L-Nizzy
So when Delta's out of the spotlight for the next six months or so, who's going to be the next target for the sufferers of tall poppy syndrome?
The winner of Aussie Idol would be my guess
GO DELTA
Milkman
23 Oct 2003, 20:45
It's nothing to do with tall poppy syndrome. It's the fact that those who dare venture beyond the confines of top 40 radio, can easily see that Delta is nothing more than the latest teeny bopper hype.
magicman
23 Oct 2003, 21:13
Originally posted by Milkman
It's nothing to do with tall poppy syndrome. It's the fact that those who dare venture beyond the confines of top 40 radio, can easily see that Delta is nothing more than the latest teeny bopper hype.
SO TRUE!!:D :D :D
BomberGal
23 Oct 2003, 23:03
Originally posted by Milkman
It's nothing to do with tall poppy syndrome. It's the fact that those who dare venture beyond the confines of top 40 radio, can easily see that Delta is nothing more than the latest teeny bopper hype.
I disagree. After listening to Top 40 music most of my life - and believe me I'm pretty much brainwashed with it where I live - and then altering my taste to something different, you learn to pick apart the various pop artists. To someone who never really had an interest in the Top 40, or isn't bombarded with it, it probably all sounds the same - but to me, Delta is different. She doesn't dress like a skank, she doesn't have a sound just like everybody else, her voice is nice, she writes her own stuff (yes?), she can play the piano - she actually goes against the flow of a lot of the Top 40 stuff. Sure, it's pop - but it's decent pop, if you wanna go that far...
I don't mind Delta, I just wish the media would leave her the **** alone.
magicman
23 Oct 2003, 23:07
Would Delta be in the top 40 if she was fat?
Originally posted by BomberGal
I disagree. After listening to Top 40 music most of my life - and believe me I'm pretty much brainwashed with it where I live - and then altering my taste to something different, you learn to pick apart the various pop artists. To someone who never really had an interest in the Top 40, or isn't bombarded with it, it probably all sounds the same - but to me, Delta is different. She doesn't dress like a skank, she doesn't have a sound just like everybody else, her voice is nice, she writes her own stuff (yes?), she can play the piano - she actually goes against the flow of a lot of the Top 40 stuff. Sure, it's pop - but it's decent pop, if you wanna go that far...
I don't mind Delta, I just wish the media would leave her the **** alone.
It's funny how people mention that she plays the piano and that she writes her own songs as some sort of pinnacle of credibility.
She's a damn site more credible than Vallance, minogue, imbrulia etc, etc.
Originally posted by marcuz
She's a damn site more credible than Vallance, minogue, imbrulia etc, etc.
Perhaps. But the fact is that playing an instrument and writing your own songs does not somehow turn mediocrity into quality.
I bet if any of you knockers were porking her, opinions would be different!
Originally posted by bozza
I bet if any of you knockers were porking her, opinions would be different!
I wouldn't pork her to her own music, that's for sure.
Cannibal Corpse or Anal C*nt would be more appropriate, I think.
Perhaps. But the fact is that playing an instrument and writing your own songs does not somehow turn mediocrity into quality.
It maybe mediocrity to you stevo..but has it occured to you that some people might actually enjoy her music..Each to their own mate..now i might be blinded by the fact that i want to shag her brains out but im happy for people to pick and choose what they like..and going by the ****load of record sales id say you were in the minority stevo
BomberGal
23 Oct 2003, 23:35
Originally posted by Stevo
It's funny how people mention that she plays the piano and that she writes her own songs as some sort of pinnacle of credibility.
In the Top 40? Pretty much, yeah. Name all the other current chart artists that do the same...
Originally posted by marcuz
It maybe mediocrity to you stevo..but has it occured to you that some people might actually enjoy her music..Each to their own mate..now i might be blinded by the fact that i want to shag her brains out but im happy for people to pick and choose what they like..and going by the ****load of record sales id say you were in the minority stevo
People who find significant value in her music lack taste.
Record sales mean nothing.
People who find significant value in her music lack taste.
Record sales mean nothing.
Again that just an opinion stevo..Like a beer lover telling a wine lover what they drink is ****..all a matter of opinion and taste...
Originally posted by marcuz
Again that just an opinion stevo..Like a beer lover telling a wine lover what they drink is ****..all a matter of opinion and taste...
Sadly enough, relativism in music is a common enough opinion. Any reasonable person can see that Beethoven's 9th symphony is a greater piece of music than Yankee Doodle.
We make intersubjective judgements all the time, and we regard such judgements as quasi-objective because of the "agreement among normal observers" principle. We have no issue in agreeing upon the subjective judgement that pedophaelia is wrong. So why can't we do the same for music?
Again stevo..personal taste..
Beer..wine
Ford..holden
Beach..snow
Some may like all ..or one..music is very much a taste thing...my old man listens to some of the worst sounding **** imaginable..just because i dont like it doesnt make it ****.
Personall i dont like delta's music. But i admire the young woman for having a go..the fact that people have latched on to her is not her fault.
I took my young cousin up to highpoint to get her autograph..she stayed for 8 hrs signing autographs...and was very personble and polite when she spoke to my cousin ..gave her a hug as well and made her day it did. I respect her for staying level headed when she could have have easily enough got caught up in her own hype...
Originally posted by marcuz
Again stevo..personal taste..
Beer..wine
Ford..holden
Beach..snow
Some may like all ..or one..music is very much a taste thing...my old man listens to some of the worst sounding **** imaginable..just because i dont like it doesnt make it ****.
Personall i dont like delta's music. But i admire the young woman for having a go..the fact that people have latched on to her is not her fault.
I took my young cousin up to highpoint to get her autograph..she stayed for 8 hrs signing autographs...and was very personble and polite when she spoke to my cousin ..gave her a hug as well and made her day it did. I respect her for staying level headed when she could have have easily enough got caught up in her own hype...
Yes, music is very much a taste thing. And there are plenty of people who have bad taste, and thus highly rate poor pieces of music. What a lot of people seem to forget is that there is also a burden on the listener to interpret and understand a piece of music. Listening to music is certainly not a completely passive experience.
lenny&carl
24 Oct 2003, 03:04
Sadly enough, relativism in music is a common enough opinion. Any reasonable person can see that Beethoven's 9th symphony is a greater piece of music than Yankee Doodle.
Has this so-called Beethoven guy ever won an Aria award? Ha! didn't think so! I listen to TT-fm and they never play his stuff. You'd think if he was any good, or anywhere near as good as Delta, he'd be on it all the time. Plus he's never been a soap star either. People only pretend to like him because he's deaf so they feel sympathetic.
Macca19
24 Oct 2003, 11:02
Originally posted by marcuz
and going by the ****load of record sales id say you were in the minority stevo
Record sales mean nothing in this day and age. Maybe once upon a time 10 years ago when the top 40 was a bit diverse and had stuff other than RnB and Bubble Gum Punk in it.
Holly Vallance sold a lot of her first single. That alone shows that 13 year old girls will buy anything fed to them making record sales mean diddly squat.
In this day and age any half decent blonde chick can get a song written and produced for them, have their voice played with thru ProTools and the like and then suddenly they sell a truckload of singles no matter how good or bad the single is. Mandy Moore, Jessica Simpson etc. One hit wonders? I wonder why.
There has been PLENTY of shocking artists and songs over the past 2-3-4 years that have sold plenty of singles/albums.
Jars458
24 Oct 2003, 11:54
Originally posted by Stevo
People who find significant value in her music lack taste.
Record sales mean nothing.
Snob.
If you like it you like it. Why does there have to be significant value in it?
Its about entertainment.
Some music is good becasues its good musici in a technical sense but to most people music is good because they like how it sounds. Funny that.
Each to their own.
Jars458
24 Oct 2003, 11:55
Originally posted by Stevo
Yes, music is very much a taste thing. And there are plenty of people who have bad taste,
That does not make any sense at all.
Or are you saying anyone that doesn't like the music you like has bad taste?
Originally posted by Jars458
Snob.
If you like it you like it. Why does there have to be significant value in it?
Its about entertainment.
Some music is good becasues its good musici in a technical sense but to most people music is good because they like how it sounds. Funny that.
Each to their own.
If you want to have such a demeaning view towards great art, then that's your prerogative.
Jars458
24 Oct 2003, 15:21
Originally posted by Stevo
If you want to have such a demeaning view towards great art, then that's your prerogative.
If you wish to have such a demeaning view to people that disagree with you then that's your perogative.
Originally posted by Jars458
If you wish to have such a demeaning view to people that disagree with you then that's your perogative.
Ah, witty.
Like I said above, it's funny how on so many things we are all happy to make intersubjective judgements, but on music we aren't. Why not? Because music is an abstract art. Basically, it's harder to understand a piece of music than it is to understand a painted portrait, or a genre fiction novel. So a lot of people try to shirk their responsibility as the audience to understand the piece of music, and just say that it only matters what the individual likes.
The problem with that is you end up with a very solipsistic aesthetics, which is precisely what art is incompatible with.
There is no good reason why we should accept that the judgement of music is purely relative.
lioness
24 Oct 2003, 21:49
Originally posted by Stevo
Perhaps. But the fact is that playing an instrument and writing your own songs does not somehow turn mediocrity into quality.
True. But in these days where pretty much everything in the top 40 is 'manufactured' music or just covers of old stuff, it's refreshing when someone does actually write their own stuff and play an instrument. Doesn't make them an instant legend, and I don't usually listen to anything but old stuff :p however I like Delta's music and am not ashamed to say so. :)
Milkman
24 Oct 2003, 22:12
Delta probably does have more musical talent than Holly and Kylie, but that's saying nothing. I've snubbed buskers with more talent than Delta.
I have a 9 year old sister who has the Holly and Britney albums. My 10 year old cousin has the Delta album. So I've had a listen to all three.
Delta's album is superior to the likes of Holly and Britney in terms of the quality of the songs and musicianship but its not award winning stuff IMO. Delta's album is a solid pop album at best. A couple of good singles, but nothing really exciting.
She is stunning and I hope she recovers from her illness. However I am sick to death of hearing about her.
What I really dont like about her is the way she fired her manager. Letting Glen Wheatley go is crazy stuff.
Originally posted by L-Nizzy
So when Delta's out of the spotlight for the next six months or so, who's going to be the next target for the sufferers of tall poppy syndrome?
Ridiculous, really.
If you'd read it finely, you would have seen I was taking the **** out of reporting luminaries such as Angela "Delta's Night" Bishop and other celebrity rag columnists.
I hold nothing against Delta (though I wish I did).
Originally posted by lioness22
True. But in these days where pretty much everything in the top 40 is 'manufactured' music or just covers of old stuff, it's refreshing when someone does actually write their own stuff and play an instrument. Doesn't make them an instant legend, and I don't usually listen to anything but old stuff :p however I like Delta's music and am not ashamed to say so. :)
I agree, and good for you. I don't have anything against such music, but I also believe that one should be realistic and objective. One of the special things about music is that we can find something worthwhile in a song that isn't all that great.
Just a bit of perspective... ;)