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WILKO_6
17 Nov 2003, 07:50
Are there any punks here? and whats been the best live gig youve been to?
raticus
17 Nov 2003, 08:47
easy - goldfinger
tho i got a kick out of seeing the pistols as well - was a hoot
Siouxsie and the Banshees - 1993.
Porthos
17 Nov 2003, 10:17
Good Charlotte.
The Legend
17 Nov 2003, 10:58
Big Black-1986.
GOALden Hawk
17 Nov 2003, 11:34
I assume you mean new-skool because unless you were around for the Clash or the Pistols it's unlikely you've seen many original punk shows.
For mine:
Pennywise/NOFX @ Offshore (incredible gig)
No Fun at All @ The Corner
The Ataris @ Hi-Fi Bar
Goldfinger/Sum 41/Unwritten Law @ The Lyric
Mad Caddies @ The Corner
Rusty Brookes
17 Nov 2003, 13:35
Seen the Ramones, Radio Birdman, the Dictators, Patti Smith Group-all sensational.
TheWackedYak
17 Nov 2003, 14:04
Wouldn't call myself a punk, but like the music.
Gigs? hmmm...
Late '90's Pennywise
BR (the only punk band that matters ) - St. Valentine's Day '97.
Suicidal Tendencies (is that too heavy for the bleached spiky hair set)
Living End
Body Jar
Frenzal Rhomb
Offspring @ BDO
NoFX
Want to see Jello Biafra's spoken word stuff and I'm spewing I missed Hank Rollins earlier in the year.
WILKO_6
17 Nov 2003, 17:32
For mine, Frenzal rhomb and the living end. Dropkick murphys are really good live aswell.
I've seen the celibate rifles at the old prince of wales.Blew me away.
wouldn't call myself a punk fan, a rock fan really but i don't mind punk...
favourite bands at the moment would be Bodyjar (saw em saturday nite, they went off), Pacifier and 28 Days...
don't mind bands like the living end, frenzal rhomb, all those types of aussie bands...
my favourite punk band would have to be For Amusement Only...
SydneyBomber
18 Nov 2003, 17:45
saw the ramones a few times.
that was punk rock to me.
pennywise were pretty entertaining too.
Porthos, I'm 90% sure you're joking, but I just need you to put it into writing - thanks.
:D
The Hitman
19 Nov 2003, 04:25
I've seen Frenzal Rhomb, the Living End and NoFX. Each brilliant in their different way.
And Porthos: :D
The Hitman
Porthos
19 Nov 2003, 07:40
I am joking. I was hoping to suck Santos in, but I guess he doesn't read this board.
Avril Lavigne craps all over Good Charlotte.
Lock Stock
19 Nov 2003, 14:16
Has anyone heard the song
Taking Back Sunday - Cute without the e
I've been playing it non stop for three weeks (roommates are getting the ****s)!
WILKO_6
19 Nov 2003, 14:48
Originally posted by Lock Stock
Has anyone heard the song
Taking Back Sunday - Cute without the e
I've been playing it non stop for three weeks (roommates are getting the ****s)!
Yep ive heard it before, it didnt really interest me though. Theres too many of those types of bands.
Santos L Helper
21 Nov 2003, 08:20
Originally posted by Porthos
I am joking. I was hoping to suck Santos in, but I guess he doesn't read this board.
I'm here mate, and I won't lower myself to comment on Good Charlotte.
I do agree with Hotpie though.........she rawks!
As for many of the other bands mentioned here........they are NOT PUNK! Is that what you wanted Porthos? ;)
Good to see the Celibate Rifles mentioned.
Captain Sensible
21 Nov 2003, 08:39
Buzzcocks
Henry Rollins
Ramones
Iggy Pop
Sex Pistols
Birthday Party
All of the local punk bands-name one and I am likely to have seen them.
And Wacked Yak I presume you are talking about Rollins doing Balck Flag songs earlier in the year? Mate you missed out big time, it was sensational although he didnt do much early stuff just mainly material from damaged. Even did a couple of Ramones songs.
TheWackedYak
21 Nov 2003, 13:53
that's the one yokel...
Do you have the West Memphis Three album? I just want to hear Hank & Chuck D sing "Rise Above", and Ice T sing "Six Pack"
Rusty Brookes
21 Nov 2003, 14:30
Getting old - I keep forgetting which bands I've seen. Buzzcocks, Iggy, the Celibate Rifles can all be added to my list.
Originally posted by Rusty Brookes
Getting old - I keep forgetting which bands I've seen. Buzzcocks, Iggy, the Celibate Rifles can all be added to my list.
The Rifles supported your lot Rusty, how can u foget them?:eek:
Captain Sensible
21 Nov 2003, 17:08
Originally posted by BT
The Rifles supported your lot Rusty, how can u foget them?:eek:
Who is/was Rustys' lot?
Captain Sensible
21 Nov 2003, 17:10
Originally posted by TheWackedYak
that's the one yokel...
Do you have the West Memphis Three album? I just want to hear Hank & Chuck D sing "Rise Above", and Ice T sing "Six Pack"
Mate I havent even heard about it. Any other songs/artists of note?
Milkman
21 Nov 2003, 17:38
Does Napalm Death count as punk? They were brilliant live. I guess they're a death metal/punk hybrid.
Other than that I like the Sex Pistols, Black Flag, The Dead Kennedys, Brujeria, The Ramones and Bad Brains. I'm sure there's also a few obvious ones which I missed.
The Legend
21 Nov 2003, 21:10
Originally posted by Milkman
Does Napalm Death count as punk? They were brilliant live. I guess they're a death metal/punk hybrid.
That's how I'd sum them up. Very Punk attitude. I hope people aren't forgetting that Punk has more to do with statement of mind-as opposed to a statement of fashion/music.
SpRiGgZy
22 Nov 2003, 17:54
yeh i'd have 2 call myself a punk actually people say i dress like one...i don't intentionally i just like they way it looks and love punk music....
best this year would definately been sum 41 as festival hall
also the melbourne based punk band for amusment only they were bloodi gr8!
GhostofJimJess
22 Nov 2003, 21:38
Just what exactly does constitute "punk" nowadays. When a thread purporting to be representative of "punk" music has names such as Avril Lavigne, Good Charlotte, Living End etc... bandied around, then my definition of the genre is quite a deal removed from what some others must think.
I tend to be with you Milkman and Rusty ... Black Flag, Pistols, Kennedys, Rifles etc are what I'd consider to be punk, albeit from slightly differing directions. Hard edged rock, with a tinge of tongue-in-cheek humor or subversive politicising, or even wilful exploitation of the music industry that feeds them.
Rusty Brookes
26 Nov 2003, 14:55
Originally posted by localyokel
Who is/was Rustys' lot?
I used to play in the Casanovas before they became corporate sellouts ;) These days I ply my trade in a band called the Naked Eye.
Originally posted by Rusty Brookes
Seen the Ramones, Radio Birdman, the Dictators, Patti Smith Group-all sensational.
Dictators. Celibate Rifles, Casanovas + 1 weird Japanese band on the one bill. Not bad.. not bad at all.
Dictators on the Sydney Harbour Cruise sh*ts on it though (sorry Rus! :D)
Dunno if one can describe the Dictators as punk though. There's so many elements, so many in-betweens.... it's all just good honest unpretentious rawk'n'roll in the end.... and they are top blokes, every one of them.
Best show ever, by a fair bit.
Originally posted by GhostofJimJess
Just what exactly does constitute "punk" nowadays. When a thread purporting to be representative of "punk" music has names such as Avril Lavigne, Good Charlotte, Living End etc... bandied around, then my definition of the genre is quite a deal removed from what some others must think.
While The Living End might not exactly be punk (they don't really fit into a specific genre), please do not even put them in the same breath with the "fake-punks": Avril and GC (and to a lesser extent Sum 41).
Leaping Lindner
27 Nov 2003, 10:50
Originally posted by GhostofJimJess
Just what exactly does constitute "punk" nowadays. When a thread purporting to be representative of "punk" music has names such as Avril Lavigne, Good Charlotte, Living End etc... bandied around, then my definition of the genre is quite a deal removed from what some others must think.
I tend to be with you Milkman and Rusty ... Black Flag, Pistols, Kennedys, Rifles etc are what I'd consider to be punk, albeit from slightly differing directions. Hard edged rock, with a tinge of tongue-in-cheek humor or subversive politicising, or even wilful exploitation of the music industry that feeds them.
Applause from the gallery!
Although I wouldn't call The Rifles punk (as much as I like them) more a hard rock band in the same genre as Birdman (who I also love).
beckybiglands
27 Nov 2003, 15:24
i seen Lagwagon last night and that ****en rawked!
millencolin, ataris, nofx, gimmes, bodyjar, less than jake, guttermouth, unwritten law are some of my most fave bands to see live... but honeslty my list could go on and on...
the walla of my bedroom are literally covered in photos from gigs, from the mid 90s to today!
I've had someone tell me that Good Charlotte is grunge. :confused:
Tatts and mohawks dont make a band "punk" (whatever "punk" is).
Good Charlotte, Sum41 and any of these other boy bands with guitars are pop. Pure and simple. They are very good at what they do, regardless of whether or not you respect what they do. But "punk" or whatever you wanna call it, they are not.
H20 are one of the best hardcore bands i've seen live. Amazing energy and so rock and roll!!
Front End Loader in their early days embraced the whole punk rock ethos, and remain one of the best live bands i've seen.
Would have killed to have seen Refused live.
Rusty Brookes
28 Nov 2003, 07:27
Originally posted by Darky
Dunno if one can describe the Dictators as punk though. There's so many elements, so many in-betweens.... it's all just good honest unpretentious rawk'n'roll in the end.... and they are top blokes, every one of them.
Best show ever, by a fair bit.
Good call Darky. By memory, the 'tators were seen as too punk for the metal crowd and too metal for the punk crowd. As you said they're simply one of the best rock bands ever. The term punk can be pretty meaningless anyway. I've seen articles where Kiss were referred to as a punk band and in Chuck Eddy's Stairway to Hell book (top 500 metal albums of all time), the Sex Pistols, the Ramones, etc are all included.
Originally posted by Carlos
Good Charlotte, Sum41 and any of these other boy bands with guitars are pop. Pure and simple. They are very good at what they do, regardless of whether or not you respect what they do. But "punk" or whatever you wanna call it, they are not.
Along with Offspring and Blink182 etc, they are good old fashioned rockabilly, not far removed from Eddie Cochrane and Elvis Presley years before. They are a bit punkish in attitude but they are not punk.
WILKO_6
28 Nov 2003, 17:18
Originally posted by jabso
While The Living End might not exactly be punk (they don't really fit into a specific genre), please do not even put them in the same breath with the "fake-punks": Avril and GC (and to a lesser extent Sum 41).
Agree with you there. You cant put them into a genre but their new album is pop, it turned me away. What a shame great bands change.
The Legend
28 Nov 2003, 20:05
Other bands I've seen that totally ripped-D.R.I ('87), Killing Joke ('84), Fugazi (numerous times), Shellac, Depression, Dead Kennedy's. I totally agree that Avril, GC, Sum 41 et al are NOT Punk bands, regardless of whether or not they are competent at what they do, or how often their clips appear on VSH or MTV. Anybody who thinks that these people are Punk must have their hands permanently stuck down the front (or back) of their pants.
utility
29 Nov 2003, 03:32
Saw Death By Stereo about a month back, twice... IMO probably the best punk band in the world right now. Their gig at the Black Swan (Calgary) was awesome... they should be touring Australia in early 2004, a must see live. Have seen Suicidal Tendencies a few times, though never with Rocky and Rob. :( Saw the Misfits in '97 (I think), that was awesome... although hardcore-punk, I saw Cro-Mags NYC twice at the start of the year... that ruled, the Saturday night gig was excellent, shame they didn't pull out Possessed to Skate or something like that given Rocky was playing.
TheSheik
29 Nov 2003, 07:40
Not that they were strictly punk but were born during the punk era, went to see The Clash at Festival Hall in Melbourne. They did a three hour set which was sensational !!
Richoagain
29 Nov 2003, 11:17
The coolest punk bands I've ever seen are two German acts called Die Toten Hosen and Die Aerzte.
Die Toten Hosen supported the Living End a few times, then The Living End returned the favour when DTH were back in Germany.
Living End and Frenzal are probably my next favourites.
Captain Sensible
29 Nov 2003, 14:41
Originally posted by The Legend
Other bands I've seen that totally ripped-D.R.I ('87),
I saw that. Did the Hard Ons support or am I thinking of The Stupids?
GhostofJimJess
29 Nov 2003, 14:48
Originally posted by Leaping Lindner
Applause from the gallery!
Although I wouldn't call The Rifles punk (as much as I like them) more a hard rock band in the same genre as Birdman (who I also love).
Yeah, Leapster ... I reckon you're probably right. Even the band name The Celibate Rifles, while not an antithesis, is obviously a kind of reverse play on words, suggesting ... er ... something about where they think they sit in comparison to the Sex Pistols.
I guess I was trying to simply fit them in with my description of what constitutes a "punk" band, and they seemd to fit that mould, philosphically at least.
On further thought, however, I reckon there's some unclassifiable element that contributes to a band really being punk. Some sort of mysterious Ingredient X, that is probably more about how they sound rather than how they are marketed.
north_lad
29 Nov 2003, 15:25
the living end were good this year (and their new album is cool wilco :p). strung out are amusing
damn you lucky bastards who have seen the pistols, clash, ramones etc. i was about 8 when the pistols came down under and about 4 when the ramones last came i think :(
Captain Sensible
29 Nov 2003, 19:06
Anyone see X on Studio 22 on tuesday night? Awesome, bloody awesome. Ian Rilen is some sort of god.
The Legend
29 Nov 2003, 19:26
Originally posted by localyokel
I saw that. Did the Hard Ons support or am I thinking of The Stupids?
Hard Ons from memory. Awesome gig. I went to see the Stupids also.
Originally posted by WILKO_6
Agree with you there. You cant put them into a genre but their new album is pop, it turned me away. What a shame great bands change.
I think their new album is quite alright. Just skip So What (country) and Short Notice (weird popish song) and listen to the good songs in Hold Up, The Room, What Would you Do, End of the World. Songs like One said to the other and Who's gonna save us are a bit average but pretty good live.
I don't think they've "sold out" since they were popular since their debut album and their music hasn't really changed that much.
I know this has nothing to do with punk but did anyone see or are seeing Terror while they are here in Australia?
Where do a band like Rancid fit in this arguement? Generally seem well respected by "punk community", not a commercial entity/success, and have released six albums now. Tim Armstrong and Matt Freeman have roots in Operation Ivy, and Lars Fredrickson has been around forever. Ska punk?
...Or a band like The Butthole Surfers , who have no set field to claim as their own. Not talking about from their "Pepper" period, but stuff like "Locust Abortion Technicain" or "Widowermaker"...can 'Crazy, drug f*cked motherf*ckers' be a category? The Flaming Lips were once quoted as saying something like they were quite possibly the scariest freaks they'd ever met or toured with.
...and what about The Flaming Lips ?...with an album like "Finally the Punk Rockers are Taking Acid"...:eek:
Also, what about Canadian "punkers" Propagandhi ? Definately no commercial appeal, heavy political undertones, pro gay, feminist, animal liberationist etc.
If happy to call them punk, then they are/were great live.
Originally posted by Fwoy
Also, what about Canadian "punkers" Propagandhi ? Definately no commercial appeal, heavy political undertones, pro gay, feminist, animal liberationist etc.
If happy to call them punk, then they are/were great live.
I havent been lucky enough to see them live, but if i ever get the chance ill jump at it. Just reading their lyrics nowand i tend to agree with everything said.
How to clean everything was their best IMO.
brooke lonie
5 Dec 2003, 13:07
Avril may not be a punk rocker, but i saw her at the melb concert and she was AWESOME!!
so who cares if shes not the stereotype "punk" that u guys have dreamed up. she makes good music so who cares, she oesnt need to be labelled.
PUNK isnt the end of the world
scottywiper
5 Dec 2003, 13:43
Saw L7 twice - superb.
However, they couldn't top the time I saw the Ramones at the BDO.
One of the best and most enjoyable gigs I have ever seen...
Originally posted by Porthos
Good Charlotte.
Very very arrhh punk of you porthos :confused:
I saw Blink182 at Warp in i think 96 or 97 i mean there not 'PUNK' but they are really energetic and provide a great set.
Saw Bodyjar about 3 years ago and they where fantastic as well.
also saw a band about 2 years ago im not sure if you guys have hard of them but there called Catch22. Catch22 play a extremely fast brand of SKA with catchy choruses and sick guitar riffs, most deffiently if your into the catchy SKA scene check them out they are fantastic.
cheers
saint amy
7 Dec 2003, 14:58
I don't count myself as "punk" at all but the best punk bands I've seen are frenzal rhomb, for amusment only and the living end if they are counted.