View Full Version : No Wisbey this year?
Grendel
21 Nov 2003, 07:21
Anyone seen a link/review etc of Colin Wiseby's draft? Or maybe he has had enough?
Tried looking around and can only find links to previous years drafts.
Any info be appreciated.
Shinboners
21 Nov 2003, 08:15
Someone posted here that Wiseby is now under contract from one of the AFL clubs, and so, he can't publish his scouting notes until after the draft.
Colin Wisbey posts at www.voy.com/51976/ at a Hotrod's Extreme Black n White pies website and he has stated that this year he is really busy and his computer is stuffed so he will give his thoughts on a specific player if he is asked to, but he doesn't have time to post massive profiles on all players like last year.
He will as usual post profiles of pies draftees after draft day, but he said that he will put up a draft guide (like goalden hawks, just what rounds ppl should go in etc) and some profiles before draft day so you will just have to keep coming back to Hotrod's page to find out ;)
PS: Colin has stated before that it is just a hobby and that he is not under contract with any AFL club
Grendel
22 Nov 2003, 02:52
Cheers Jonty, Figjam.
Yea, been over at Hotties site and hadnt seen anything so thought it a touch strange. Still and all, work he's done the previous few seasons good luck to him for having a breather! ;)
Originally posted by Grendel
Cheers Jonty, Figjam.
Yea, been over at Hotties site and hadnt seen anything so thought it a touch strange. Still and all, work he's done the previous few seasons good luck to him for having a breather! ;)
The Wiz said today, he will be posting his profiles as of now, over the next couple of weeks.
He's very happy with all of our picks, so I'm loving it!! :cool:
And here's one now...
Billy Morrison (Tassie Mariners)
192/97 bottom age right foot KPP.
6'4" mobile tank along the lines of Johnathon Brown who can play at either end.
'03 is a year short on talls (damn puns!) and even shorter on good ones and almost devoid of inside good ones, the best of whom are slim. Nothing testifies more to that than the fact that I have at No. 8 (although he will probably go about 10 or more picks later than that) a guy who has been out injured all year, whose U18 form last year was very promising in glimpses but inconsistent (he tended to be in and out of a game in bursts) and soso statistically. And I have only seen him live twice.
Yes he is a risk, and a largely unproven one (unless you count one very good U16 game in '01). That said, I was very impressed by the snippet he showed last year and marked him at the time as a potential top talent, despite the stats. That's about all I have to go on but with so many clubs crying out for a serious inside mobile KPP who is physically strong and a genuine footballer, I kept going over and over the other options and kept coming back to Morrison each time. In another year I might rate him, because of the little he has actually proven, as a 2nd rounder. This year, though, if his type is what you want you are going to have to pay an unfairly expensive price. Will be ready in year 2, maybe year 1, depending on how quickly he gains touch after such a long lay-off. Probably go a bit later than I rate him.
*STYLE LIKE: Jonathon Brown (though not quite as physical).
*TRADEMARK:
- Big grab on a lead at CHF.
*SUMMARY ASSESSMENT, RECOMMENDATION:
There is a golden rule that you don't take unnecessary risks with a first round draft pick. As I mentioned, though, circumstances this year are unusual in that most of the U18 KPPs and rucks are outside types. At the very least, most lack physical presence.
I rate Morrison, despite no '03 form to gauge, a first round pick. At the risk of sounding unprofessional, I concede up front that I have taken what amounts to limited snippets (compared to the welter of games and tapes I study for other players) from the little I have seen of Morrison in the past and taken a fair bit of liberty in extrapolating in order to assess his value.
In the end, here is what influenced me to rate him above all the other U18 tall KPP types (Clarke is not strictly KPP):-
1. Build like Jonathon Brown and, unlike almost all his '03 draft rivals, has physical presence and intensity.
2. One-grab pack mark and from any position.
3. Has a big leap and is very agile for size. Moves well - is balanced, very mobile & has good enough pace.
4. Demands the ball and gives a real point of focus at half forward.
5. He has a footy brain and can think quickly.
5. Versatility. Should be capable of playing any key position. I suspect his best will be CHF but also has attributes that suit CHB (and he played there a little bit in '02). Played a bit on HFF last year and, despite his bulk, could potentially do so in a pinch even at AFL level, providing his opponent wasn't particularly quick. He could also be the 3rd tall defender, and may start in that role at AFL level.
6. Is a big boy (by any criteria) who, although he may need chiselling, is not a project physique-wise.
7. Has a good ethic - chases, blocks etc and is quite good below the knees.
8. Nice kicking style and gets good depth. Is no Matthew Lloyd but can kick a goal set kick or on the run and/or from a tight angle and/or from 50+ metres.
For a very big-bodied guy who has been off the scene for a year, it is credit to him that he presented in surprisingly good nick at the Draft camp. Performed extremely well in the demanding events (Beep, 3Km) and Agility, beating over 70% of the near 170 attendees in each. 20m time of 3.09 was good for him at this stage (beating 37%) although 5m time was ordinary and leap only fair. My reading of his results is sympathic to the time it takes to recover full fitness after such a long lay-off and, in that, light, I am extremely encouraged.
*OTHER STUFF:
- AIS
- N/A for any games '03 - injured his shouder pre Ireland, requiring shoulder reconstruction.
by Colin Wisbey.
superstar
23 Nov 2003, 17:07
His profiles are amazing, but that is one terrible forum.
Youd think they'd update it, wouldn't you.
Very irritating.