View Full Version : India vs Victoria
Dasher39
21 Nov 2003, 15:15
India plays its first tour match against the Vics at the 'G starting on Tuesday. I hope they play their top line players, cos I work at the "g and might be able to slip down at lunch and have a look.
the way the vics are batting they will slap india from one end of the G to the other... hodge and elliott are in fine form, about time the selectors had a look at them...
anonymous Joe
21 Nov 2003, 19:23
Be interesting to see how Cam White goes given the Indians are such good players of spin. A few wickets would not doubt make the selectors take notice.
bluechampion
24 Nov 2003, 09:10
I'm disappointed Wise has been dropped for Harvey. How many All-round types can you play in a four-day game, dammit? They've said that he's being 'rested'. I kind've understand that, but he's young and in good form, why mess with it?
Team: Cameron White (captain), Jason Arnberger, Matthew Elliott, Brad Hodge, Jon Moss, David Hussey, Ian Harvey, Andrew McDonald, Peter Roach, Brett Harrop, Mathew Inness, Brendan Joseland (likely 12th man).
Thankfully it's only a 3 day game.
will be interesting to see how cam goes with the captaincy this game...
Originally posted by w00dy
will be interesting to see how cam goes with the captaincy this game...
Why ?
He captained the Vic's in the milk match in QLD and we won.
Cupido13
24 Nov 2003, 12:49
Originally posted by w00dy
the way the vics are batting they will slap india from one end of the G to the other... hodge and elliott are in fine form, about time the selectors had a look at them...
Elliott had his chance, and although it was ruined by injury I think it is gone now. Hodge is in such good form I would say that really he should have jumped the queue and should be next in line, however I think he will never get a chance for Australia. Especially when you think that: a) Martin Love made a hundred last test innings. b) Simon Katich's performance when given a chance was nothing short of brilliant. c) They love Michael Clarke and wanna get him in sooner rather than later. d) There is still Darren Lehmann as well.
Seeing as I'm on holidays I'll probably end up going to all 3 days - hopefully seeing as its a 3-day match they'll spank it around a fair bit.
India 3/105 [37 overs]
'The Little Master' is 41 n.o
5/185 at Tea
Tendulkar made 80. Dravid 0 and Gangles 2.
Inness has 4/48. Cameron White got a bit of stick, 0/31 off 7.
manmountain
25 Nov 2003, 14:02
Inness 4-48 including Tendulkar and Ganguly.
Bracken is the next big thing :rolleyes:
Fall Out Boy
25 Nov 2003, 14:03
This counts as a first class game, right?
Originally posted by manmountain
Inness 4-48 including Tendulkar and Ganguly.
Bracken is the next big thing :rolleyes:
Was wondering how long it would take.........
Cupido13
25 Nov 2003, 14:06
Originally posted by llosis
Inness has 4/48. Cameron White got a bit of stick, 0/31 off 7.
It seems you are surprised that a 21 year old with minimal experience who is just an average first class cricketer got tapped around by the world's best players of spin, particularly Tendulkar who has been playing the closest style of bowling to White (Kumble) for the past 10 years week in, week out in the nets!
Don't be surprised to see him continue to get belted around, but don't stress too much I am sure he will pick up a few wickets in the tail and give you all something to talk about.
manmountain
25 Nov 2003, 14:08
Originally posted by llosis
Was wondering how long it would take.........
What do you mean?
I am genuinely excited at seeing a player like Bracken, with such a fantastic track record in Shield cricket, represent Australia ahead of a hack like Inness who has clearly never done anything.
Originally posted by manmountain
What do you mean?
I am genuinely excited at seeing a player like Bracken, with such a fantastic track record in Shield cricket, represent Australia ahead of a hack like Inness who has clearly never done anything.
Bracken is another NSW based hack (home of some of the greats in the last 20 years..Wayne Holdsworth, Brad McNamara, Don Nash...)
Originally posted by phatandphreaky
This counts as a first class game, right?
Yep - this is an official 1st class game.
And White has his 1st scalp (Ramesh for 87, who can hardly be classified as a taile end bunny/hack). 1/41 from 11 overs (E/R 3.83 - respectable)
corporal
25 Nov 2003, 14:57
Originally posted by manmountain
What do you mean?
I am genuinely excited at seeing a player like Bracken, with such a fantastic track record in Shield cricket, represent Australia ahead of a hack like Inness who has clearly never done anything.
We might as well face the fact that for what ever stupid reason, even though Inness has 200 wickets @ 24 and is in great form, he is not going to get a go in the test side and possibly even Aus A.
My prediction is that now Nicholson is playing for NSW and is getting a few wickets with his harmison like wide balls he will be next in line with Bracken and lard arse Williams, not to mention the "break down kid" Noftke
I think White is Victoria's only chance for Test representation in the near future (next 2-4 years)(Warne aside)
Score update someone?
:D:D
Cupido13
25 Nov 2003, 15:02
Originally posted by Lidge
Yep - this is an official 1st class game.
And White has his 1st scalp (Ramesh for 87, who can hardly be classified as a taile end bunny/hack). 1/41 from 11 overs (E/R 3.83 - respectable)
Ramesh just average, nothing too flash. e/r has to be compared to the run rate overall and this makes White look a bit average.
ViperV10
25 Nov 2003, 15:06
6/232 75 overs
Tendulkar made 80
Ramesh made 87
Inness has 4/48 off 16 overs (Scalps: Sehwag, Dravid, Ganguly and Tendulkar)
Inness continues to impress me...
Didn't say it was great!
White's ER has just blown out a bit, but he had Patel dropped at cover off the last over.
Ramesh may not be great - but he is the highest scorer of the innings and is better quality than Chopra who opened the batting.
Typically the MCG isn't spin friendly on the 1st day - but against the Indians - this should be a good learning experience for White.
I'll be the first to admit Inness has a far finer FC record than Bracken. Inness is in the top bracket of bowlers on the Australian FC scene right now and certainly on the basis of domestic cricket he's acheived a fair bit more than Bracken (due to form, injury, opportunity whatever).
However, rightly or wrongly the selectors have seen something else in Bracken that has put him ahead of Inness in terms of Australian representation. Having had a stellar tour of India it is the selectors who can say "I told you so" not the Victorian cricket cheer squad. Bracken's acheived more than McNamara, Holdsworth, robertson etc or any of the other NSW players who in the past got what most people see as a passage to the Test/ ODI touring parties through convenience and the fact they were local NSW boys. Whereas those guys were found out fairly quickly, I think Bracken did exceptionally well.
My point is just because Inness is doing well (and good on him) it doesn't automatically mean Bracken is a hack. You victorian guys are so sensitive over the issue of Inness being behind Bracken in the pecking order, you trot out the same old crap everytime Inness takes a wicket and make some stupid comment about how that proves that Bracken is a hack. I don't think anyone is denying that Inness is a quality bowler with a quality record but he wouldn't be the first Australian FC cricketer to struggle to get a look in despite doing well consistently. Hayden, Langer, Martyn, Gilchrist, Lehmann, Bichel, Williams all have fit into that category (and others), so you can lay off the sad conspiracy theories as we've heard it all before.
corporal
25 Nov 2003, 15:12
Originally posted by Cupido13
Ramesh just average, nothing too flash. e/r has to be compared to the run rate overall and this makes White look a bit average.
Ramesh has a pretty decent international record, if you take a way Tendulkar's stick, whites figures are pretty good,
I'm all for not pumping him up to much, but I'm also all for not just bagging him for the sake of it, the fact of the matter is he is the most exciting talent to emerge in Victoria for years, so of course people are going to be talking him up
Originally posted by Lidge
Didn't say it was great!
White's ER has just blown out a bit, but he had Patel dropped at cover off the last over.
Ramesh may not be great - but he is the highest scorer of the innings and is better quality than Chopra who opened the batting.
Typically the MCG isn't spin friendly on the 1st day - but against the Indians - this should be a good learning experience for White.
Geez you guys are sensitive.....
Originally posted by llosis
I'll be the first to admit Inness has a far finer FC record than Bracken. Inness is in the top bracket of bowlers on the Australian FC scene right now and certainly on the basis of domestic cricket he's acheived a fair bit more than Bracken (due to form, injury, opportunity whatever).
However, rightly or wrongly the selectors have seen something else in Bracken that has put him ahead of Inness in terms of Australian representation.
Perhaps Inness doesn't swallow!:D
corporal
25 Nov 2003, 15:15
Originally posted by llosis
Geez you guys are sensitive.....
Either that or we like to discuss cricket on a cricket web forum
Originally posted by corporal
Either that or we like to discuss cricket on a cricket web forum
I think you can do that without having to justify every step that Cameron White takes on the cricket field. He's young, he's talented, he's only just starting to produce. But he isn't immune from comment either.
Accept it.
corporal
25 Nov 2003, 15:23
Originally posted by llosis
I think you can do that without having to justify every step that Cameron White takes on the cricket field. He's young, he's talented, he's only just starting to produce. But he isn't immune from comment either.
Accept it.
Of course not, thats why we are discussing a young players merit on a cricket forum,
It sounds like your the sensitive one.
BTW White's just taken two wickets, he has 3/57 :cool:
White Watch.
3/57 from 15
India slumping - now 8/248.
Looks like the Vics will have to face an over or 2 tonight.
He should also bring Inness on - he deserves a crack at getting a five for after his display earlier today.
corporal
25 Nov 2003, 15:34
Macgill & Waugh should be dropped from the test side immediately,
White can captain, bat at 5 and bamboozle opposition with his "sharp" turning leg spin
Inness can be the 4th bowler
9/241.
4th wicket for White.
BBB Campaign!
Stuff Gilchrist, Bring Back Berry!
dr nick
25 Nov 2003, 15:38
Originally posted by corporal
My prediction is that now Nicholson is playing for NSW and is getting a few wickets with his harmison like wide balls he will be next in line with Bracken and lard arse Williams, not to mention the "break down kid" Noftke
and would that be a NSW thing? he's still the same hack who earned a call-up 5 years ago, and he wasnt playing for NSW then.
Originally posted by nicko18
and would that be a NSW thing? he's still the same hack who earned a call-up 5 years ago, and he wasnt playing for NSW then.
But this hack could actually bowl and land a few on the pitch 5 years ago.
Originally posted by Nandoz
BBB Campaign!
Stuff Gilchrist, Bring Back Berry!
Thanks Nandoz if we could keep the lunacy out of this thread that'd be great mate. ;)
Originally posted by Lidge
But this hack could actually bowl and land a few on the pitch 5 years ago.
Lidge you may want to check Nicholson's FC record this year - it's probably the best in Australia. I think he's taken about 15 wickets in 3 games at about 21. He is a bowler in form.
Here's the top 20 Australian's (1st class bowling averages for season 2003/04). Nicholson isn't in the top 10!
Name Mat O M R W Ave Best 5 10 SR Econ Team
MJ Cosgrove 1 2 2 0 1 0.00 1-0 - - 12.0 0.00 SOA
DM Payne 3 2 0 6 1 6.00 1-6 - - 12.0 3.00 QLD
SE Marsh 3 7 0 20 2 10.00 2-20 - - 21.0 2.85 WA
DR MacKenzie 1 29 4 87 7 12.42 4-43 - - 24.8 3.00 QLD
JN Gillespie 2 69.4 21 158 12 13.16 5-54 1 - 34.8 2.26 AUS/SOA
GJ Denton 1 19.5 4 79 6 13.16 4-60 - - 19.8 3.98 TAS
DG Wright 3 128 40 316 19 16.63 4-30 - - 40.4 2.46 TAS
JJ Taylor 2 19 5 70 4 17.50 4-70 - - 28.5 3.68 WA
DS Lehmann 1 33.2 16 64 3 21.33 3-61 - - 66.6 1.92 AUS
PC Rofe 3 107.4 30 313 14 22.35 5-89 1 - 46.1 2.90 SOA
MJ Nicholson 3 112.3 23 359 16 22.43 6-76 1 - 42.1 3.19 NSW
SJ Jurgensen 3 122.2 35 301 13 23.15 4-52 - - 56.4 2.46 QLD
ML Lewis 2 80 21 191 8 23.87 5-58 1 - 60.0 2.38 VIC
AB McDonald 3 75 23 197 8 24.62 4-35 - - 56.2 2.62 VIC
MC Miller 1 25.3 6 74 3 24.66 2-43 - - 51.0 2.90 SOA
AB Wise 2 56 14 177 7 25.28 3-56 - - 48.0 3.16 VIC
AJ Bichel 2 92.4 29 255 10 25.50 4-63 - - 55.6 2.75 AUS
SW Tait 2 50 8 184 7 26.28 4-61 - - 42.8 3.68 SOA
BA Williams 1 39 14 114 4 28.50 2-56 - - 58.5 2.92 AUS
PC Worthington 4 95.4 24 317 11 28.81 6-59 1 - 52.1 3.31 WA
The Spornstar
25 Nov 2003, 16:02
Originally posted by Cupido13
It seems you are surprised that a 21 year old with minimal experience who is just an average first class cricketer got tapped around by the world's best players of spin, particularly Tendulkar who has been playing the closest style of bowling to White (Kumble) for the past 10 years week in, week out in the nets!
Don't be surprised to see him continue to get belted around, but don't stress too much I am sure he will pick up a few wickets in the tail and give you all something to talk about.
Tried to cover your ar*se there didn't you? 4/59 isn't a bad effort against the world's best players of spin is it?
Originally posted by Lidge
Here's the top 20 Australian's (1st class bowling averages for season 2003/04). Nicholson isn't in the top 10!
Name Mat O M R W Ave Best 5 10 SR Econ Team
MJ Cosgrove 1 2 2 0 1 0.00 1-0 - - 12.0 0.00 SOA
DM Payne 3 2 0 6 1 6.00 1-6 - - 12.0 3.00 QLD
SE Marsh 3 7 0 20 2 10.00 2-20 - - 21.0 2.85 WA
DR MacKenzie 1 29 4 87 7 12.42 4-43 - - 24.8 3.00 QLD
JN Gillespie 2 69.4 21 158 12 13.16 5-54 1 - 34.8 2.26 AUS/SOA
GJ Denton 1 19.5 4 79 6 13.16 4-60 - - 19.8 3.98 TAS
DG Wright 3 128 40 316 19 16.63 4-30 - - 40.4 2.46 TAS
JJ Taylor 2 19 5 70 4 17.50 4-70 - - 28.5 3.68 WA
DS Lehmann 1 33.2 16 64 3 21.33 3-61 - - 66.6 1.92 AUS
PC Rofe 3 107.4 30 313 14 22.35 5-89 1 - 46.1 2.90 SOA
MJ Nicholson 3 112.3 23 359 16 22.43 6-76 1 - 42.1 3.19 NSW
SJ Jurgensen 3 122.2 35 301 13 23.15 4-52 - - 56.4 2.46 QLD
ML Lewis 2 80 21 191 8 23.87 5-58 1 - 60.0 2.38 VIC
AB McDonald 3 75 23 197 8 24.62 4-35 - - 56.2 2.62 VIC
MC Miller 1 25.3 6 74 3 24.66 2-43 - - 51.0 2.90 SOA
AB Wise 2 56 14 177 7 25.28 3-56 - - 48.0 3.16 VIC
AJ Bichel 2 92.4 29 255 10 25.50 4-63 - - 55.6 2.75 AUS
SW Tait 2 50 8 184 7 26.28 4-61 - - 42.8 3.68 SOA
BA Williams 1 39 14 114 4 28.50 2-56 - - 58.5 2.92 AUS
PC Worthington 4 95.4 24 317 11 28.81 6-59 1 - 52.1 3.31 WA
Yeah I think the Australian test bowling line-up should be:
MJ Cosgrove
DM Payne
SE Marsh
DR MacKenzie
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Try sorting by number of wickets taken.
Vindaloo Mat
25 Nov 2003, 16:07
nice 50 by the local Ahmedabad boy...literally boy
Indians 266/9 at stumps.
Patel 52*
The Spornstar
25 Nov 2003, 16:08
Originally posted by llosis
I'll be the first to admit Inness has a far finer FC record than Bracken. Inness is in the top bracket of bowlers on the Australian FC scene right now and certainly on the basis of domestic cricket he's acheived a fair bit more than Bracken (due to form, injury, opportunity whatever).
However, rightly or wrongly the selectors have seen something else in Bracken that has put him ahead of Inness in terms of Australian representation. Having had a stellar tour of India it is the selectors who can say "I told you so" not the Victorian cricket cheer squad. Bracken's acheived more than McNamara, Holdsworth, robertson etc or any of the other NSW players who in the past got what most people see as a passage to the Test/ ODI touring parties through convenience and the fact they were local NSW boys. Whereas those guys were found out fairly quickly, I think Bracken did exceptionally well.
My point is just because Inness is doing well (and good on him) it doesn't automatically mean Bracken is a hack. You victorian guys are so sensitive over the issue of Inness being behind Bracken in the pecking order, you trot out the same old crap everytime Inness takes a wicket and make some stupid comment about how that proves that Bracken is a hack. I don't think anyone is denying that Inness is a quality bowler with a quality record but he wouldn't be the first Australian FC cricketer to struggle to get a look in despite doing well consistently. Hayden, Langer, Martyn, Gilchrist, Lehmann, Bichel, Williams all have fit into that category (and others), so you can lay off the sad conspiracy theories as we've heard it all before.
But why the automatic crossover from one dayers into the test team? Will Ian Harvey be in the test team next?
His first class record is very poor in comparison to Inness, and others too. I'm not talking about his one day record here, but his first class record. That's what his test spot should be based on. If Bracken is being considered for tests then Ian Harvey should too.
Originally posted by The Spornstar
Tried to cover your ar*se there didn't you? 4/59 isn't a bad effort against the world's best players of spin is it?
Yep...the 21 year old with minimal experience is really struggling:rolleyes:
13 wickets @ 30.0 so far in 2003/04
Batting average of 65.5 in 2003/04
8 catches season to date (1 less than both Gilchrist & Manou & 2 more than Haddin)
Plus winning more games than he's losing as captain.
Not a bad start to the year in my book...
Originally posted by The Spornstar
But why the automatic crossover from one dayers into the test team? Will Ian Harvey be in the test team next?
His first class record is very poor in comparison to Inness, and others too. I'm not talking about his one day record here, but his first class record. That's what his test spot should be based on. If Bracken is being considered for tests then Ian Harvey should too.
The selectors obviously see it differently. They had Bracken as twelth man for the 2nd Test vs Zim. That then followed on to the one-dayers and then to the home test series vs India.
I agree Bracken's FC record is not flash, but obviously there is a thought amongst the Aust selectors that he has talent that belies his averages.
The Spornstar
25 Nov 2003, 16:29
Originally posted by llosis
The selectors obviously see it differently. They had Bracken as twelth man for the 2nd Test vs Zim.
Yes, and that's what annoyed us. I have no idea what justified his selection for 12th man for that test - they couldn't even say that it was based on his good form in India. But even despite his good form in India he shouldn't be close to the test team. And I don't think anyone here is denying that he shouldn't have been a part of the one day squad - his one day record is good.
dr nick
25 Nov 2003, 20:05
If Bracken was playing for Victoria he wouldn't even be in the picture :rolleyes:
dees 4 life
25 Nov 2003, 20:21
Originally posted by nicko18
If Bracken was playing for Victoria he wouldn't even be in the picture :rolleyes:
Correct. Braken and Inness are very similar bowlers both left armers both swing it. Inness record is much better than brackens. But Bracken plays for NSW that is why Inness doesnt even get a look in.
dr nick
25 Nov 2003, 20:49
lol :p
India 9/266 declared. Vics in reply 1/67 @ Lunch (Elliott 36*, Hodge 19*).
Vics 2/155. Hodge 74* and on fire.
Turbantor got some stick from Hodge and has been relieved by Sehwag.
Singh has 1/62 off 12.
The Indian bowling looks pretty light on.
100* for Hodge. The little run machine has been carving them up.
3/213 (Hodge 100*, Hussey 21*)
Update.
The Vic's middle order has vanished in thin air (surprise surprise!).
Hussey & McDonald out in consecutive overs. The Freak Harvey now joins Hodge (100*) at the crease. Score 5/233
The Spornstar
26 Nov 2003, 16:18
Originally posted by nicko18
If Bracken was playing for Victoria he wouldn't even be in the picture :rolleyes:
How about you debate my points mate - I want you to justify Bracken's selection for the test team ahead of Inness.
Stumps day 2
India 9/266d
Vic 5/348
Hodge 153*
Harvey 54*
Partnership of 116*
Jars458
26 Nov 2003, 16:38
I think Innes Tait and Rofe would all be better options than Bracken in the long form of the game.
Who knows why the selectors rate him though.
The Spornstar
26 Nov 2003, 16:41
Originally posted by Jars458
Who knows why the selectors rate him though.
Who's going to be first to give you some help with that?;)
Originally posted by Jars458
I think Innes Tait and Rofe would all be better options than Bracken in the long form of the game.
And where do Tait and Rofe come from?
Cupido13
27 Nov 2003, 06:26
Originally posted by The Spornstar
Tried to cover your ar*se there didn't you? 4/59 isn't a bad effort against the world's best players of spin is it?
My mistake, Sadagopan Ramesh, Harbajhan Singh, Zaheer Khan and Lakshmipathy Balaji are some of the finest batsmen in the world, hats off to Cameron White!! Gutsy effort from Cameron White. I understand he has the potential to be a great player, my point is that he is not a great player yet. Also, I would rate his 4 top order wickets against NSW a couple of years back as a better performance than these 4 retards from India.
Originally posted by Cupido13
My mistake, Sadagopan Ramesh, Harbajhan Singh, Zaheer Khan and Lakshmipathy Balaji are some of the finest batsmen in the world, hats off to Cameron White!! Gutsy effort from Cameron White. I understand he has the potential to be a great player, my point is that he is not a great player yet. Also, I would rate his 4 top order wickets against NSW a couple of years back as a better performance than these 4 retards from India.
Question.
How do you rate White's 4/59 against a Test standard line up in comparison to Harbajan Singh's 2/117 (ER 4.33) against a State side with NO current Test players? Keeping in mind they are bowling on the same strip - with Singh getting use of the better bowling conditions on day 2.
Jars458
27 Nov 2003, 07:57
Originally posted by Catman
And where do Tait and Rofe come from?
SA. Why?
My North
27 Nov 2003, 09:45
Victoria are 5/373 after 100 overs with Brag Hodge on 168 not out and Ian Harvey on 64 not out. You might find a declaration by the Vic one Hodge get to 200 and Harvey to 100. I just hope Cameron White remember to tell the India or might give a bit of there own back to them and forget to tell the india
Lennyfan
27 Nov 2003, 09:50
Originally posted by llosis
Stumps day 2
India 9/266d
Vic 5/348
Hodge 153*
Harvey 54*
Partnership of 116*
Good afternoon at the G.
Suprising, out of hodge, moss and harvey (didn't see elliot bat), I wiould have to say that moss was hitting then a lot better. Freak run out which was unfortunate but seems to have number 4 in the batting line up his own now. Has to be the most in form all rounder in Australia but has his distractors (love that he is becoming a batting all rounder which helps with our bowling all rounders (harvey, white)...
Hodge was great. Has matured and know now how to develop an innings. If he does get the call up to the test team will know how to work the singles and become a great batsman. Has every shot in the book, his pull shots are powerful and the drives were a delight.
Harvey also seems to have put his youth behind him. Relising that they could plunder this bowling if they played it smart he developed a partnership that never looked in danger.
Of the bowlers, Nehra was the only one looking like they would be of test standard. Needs to learn how to straighten it more often, then left handers will destroy him otherwise.
Khan and Balaji spray it around and were punished. And singh is in trouble (apart from when the batsman are very new to the crease and their feet are moving slowly) because off spinners with no tricks are killed on most australian pitches.
Good pitch to bat on (2nd day is usually the best). Should be a good deck to host NSW at in a couple of weeks.
For mine, harvey takes McDonalds spot. Otherwise if hussey can learn to build an innings and moss continues on we have a pretty decient state side (but lacks depth in the batting).
Vic's are 6/486
Hodge is 240 n.o
White is 32 n.o
Harvey made 71.
My guess is the Vics will declare and give themselves 50 overs to knock the Indians over.
bluechampion
27 Nov 2003, 12:39
Hodge 260*
Clearly Hookesy has decided to give Brad evey chance to bat his way into the Selectors thoughts.
Or maybe the powers that be don't want India to have another chance to bat in aussie conditions before the NSW match? If NSW only let them bat once, they'll go into the first test with only two proper innings in Australian conditions at a reasonable level of cricket.
Hodge out for 264. White 39* Vics 7/518
At least Boonie was on hand to see this knock - and Hohns was on hand to watch his last hundred.
Won't have done his prospects any harm.
On Ganguly's mentally incompetent effort in declaring an innings closed without informing the umpires and their opponents. Is there any chance that Ganguly can be brought before a committee for bringing the game into disrepute, by failing to inform all interested parties of his declaration decision?
Fall Out Boy
27 Nov 2003, 16:08
Had a glorious day watching Hodgy smack the Indians all over the ground.
I left when we declared though, so i missed Peter Roach having a bowl.
read in the sun how there was no love lost between the 2 sides this game... hooksey was furious with the indians renegging on an agreement to make it a 70 over match... so he wanted to keep the indians out there for as long as he could... and the indians weren't to impressed with this, ganguly bowling wide of off stump to show his displeasure with still being in the field...
good job hooksey...
and as for the inness/bracken debate... bracken was shown he is a very good limited over bowler, whilst matty inness has shown he can struggle in this form of the game, sometimes struggling to make the victorian XI... in the 4 day game however it is the exact opposite... bracken has done nothing to warrent any further honours whilst matty inness has terriffic numbers...
the point is, why was bracken selected in the aussie 12 ahead of an inness for the last test when his performances in the 4 day game have never been up to standard??? how could the selectors justify that decision?? everyone talks about how hard it is to get into the aussie side, and that you have to be consistantly performing to get a look in... bracken has not met this criteria where others like inness have... he should not be in the picture as far as test matches go