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This information from Footygoss:
Two South Fremantle players who missed out on being drafted today have been invited to try out for Rookie listed selection next month with seperate clubs.
Jaymie Graham is invited to train with Port Adelaide
Does anyone have any info on him.
Kid Dynamite!
23 Nov 2003, 12:09
Not as yet but as soon as they start training at Alberton I'll be there.
Ford Fairlane
24 Nov 2003, 10:03
According to the South Freo website he won their Best Backman and Player of the Future awards for 2003. But they don't have player stats on the site so I don't know if he's a KPP or flanker. He did a pre season with Freo last year I think.
Ford Fairlane
24 Nov 2003, 19:56
He was pretty much a fixture at CHB from rd 14 on at Sth Freo. No stats yet tho.
Asgardian
25 Nov 2003, 02:23
This is fraught with danger, but here goes, I've picked out some lads from the info supplied, that I like the sound of for our Rookie List --
Ruckmen
Rowan Andrews 18/198/82
John Meesen 17/199/90
Tall Defenders
Will Gayfer 18/192/92
Michael Johnson 19/194/92
Running Defenders
Joel Campbell 17/187/73
Tall Forwards
Tom Mentiplay 18/196/90
Running Forwards
Dean Chester 18/178/66
Jacob Surjan 18/179/75
Wingmen
Josh Bartel 18/191/75
Midfielders
Adam Bentick 18/184/81
Lucas Teague 18/181/76
Rovers
James Allan 18/175/76
Cameron Hall 18/176/76
We can't have them all, but getting some of them would be a good step I reckon
If anyone wants me to type out the profile from Inside Football on any of these lads let me know.
Ford Fairlane
25 Nov 2003, 09:21
... bit more info (from Inside Footy)
Jaymie Graham, 6.2.83, 198cm 98kg. CHB, Ruck, big unit, smooth mover, query pace.
Craig Jovanovich, 2.1.85, 184cm 82kg. FB. Port showed fair bit of interest.
Peter Mann, 21.8.85, 185cm 80kg from Port Magpies (Streaky Bay). In and under midfielder (he was rated as a draft hopeful and being a Magpie I am obliged to mention him).
Sinkunas didn't make their list tho.
How many rookies can we have? Is it 6 between vets and rookie. SO if we have 2 vets its 4 rookies?
I'd look at two Port Magpies boys, Parry & and the Skan.
Could I have the link to inside footy please
Thanks
Ford Fairlane
26 Nov 2003, 08:52
I don't think there is one. The info I posted I just took out of a hard copy a mate had.
Kid Dynamite!
26 Nov 2003, 10:03
I took this from FootyGoss.com just now:
"Port Adelaide has decided against inviting South Fremantle key position player Jaymie Graham to train for a rookie listed position.
Port indicated that they may extend an invite to Graham to train with the club in the lead up to the rookie draft next month.
However, after drafting another Western Australian, Michael Pettigrew, means that Port Adelaide no longer require Graham to train."
Right then.
Porthos
26 Nov 2003, 10:10
Hmmm. Footygoss is not a source I would consider to be too good.....why would the fact that we have one guy from WA already make this other fellow instantly crap? Surely if he's good enough it doesn't matter where he's from.
Ford Fairlane
26 Nov 2003, 11:15
Next they'll be withdrawing Parry's invitation cos he was originally from WA. Sounds like FG probably got the story wrong in the first place and are now backpedalling furiously, if incoherently.
manureid
26 Nov 2003, 15:01
According to sources Parry is training with the Cows.
Kid Dynamite!
26 Nov 2003, 15:19
Manureid is correct. Here's a list of all unlisted players training with a few AFL clubs, which may be of interest to us:
Port Adelaide
Lucas Block (Glenelg), Alex Button (Glenelg), Dale Ellis (Woodville West Torrens), Adam Grocke (North Adelaide), Salim Hassan (West Adelaide), Cameron Ilett (Port Adelaide Mapgies), Matt Illman (West Adelaide), David Kellett (Central District), Peter Mann (Port Adelaide Magpies), Dylan Pfitzner (Central District), Paul Thomas (Central District), Jarrod Wright (Woodville West Torrens).
Adelaide
Andrew Rowans (Tassie Mariners), Michael Bratton (Norwood), Brad Dabrowski (West Adelaide), Clint Dubieniecki (Glenelg), Tim Hazell (Box Hill), Brad Lang (Glenorchy), Tim Nicholas (Norwood), Craig Parry (Port Adelaide Magpies), Jason Porplyzia (West Adelaide), Jason Whitehead (Woodville West Torrens).
Collingwood
Justin Crow (Collingwood), William Gayfer (Murray Bushrangers), Brendon Hollow (Williamstown), Tom Hooker (Collingwood), Adam Jago (North Launceston), Luke Jarrad (Williamstown), Paul Koulouriotis (Port Adelaide), Zane Leonard (Dandenong Stingrays), Clinton Proctor (Gippsland Power).
Taken from here (http://carltonfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=127986).
Ford Fairlane
26 Nov 2003, 15:38
Originally posted by Kid Dynamite!
Manureid is correct. Here's a list of all unlisted players training with a few AFL clubs, which may be of interest to us:
Port Adelaide
Lucas Block (Glenelg), Alex Button (Glenelg), Dale Ellis (Woodville West Torrens), Adam Grocke (North Adelaide), Salim Hassan (West Adelaide), Cameron Ilett (Port Adelaide Mapgies), Matt Illman (West Adelaide), David Kellett (Central District), Peter Mann (Port Adelaide Magpies), Dylan Pfitzner (Central District), Paul Thomas (Central District), Jarrod Wright (Woodville West Torrens).
Adelaide
Andrew Rowans (Tassie Mariners), Michael Bratton (Norwood), Brad Dabrowski (West Adelaide), Clint Dubieniecki (Glenelg), Tim Hazell (Box Hill), Brad Lang (Glenorchy), Tim Nicholas (Norwood), Craig Parry (Port Adelaide Magpies), Jason Porplyzia (West Adelaide), Jason Whitehead (Woodville West Torrens).
Collingwood
Justin Crow (Collingwood), William Gayfer (Murray Bushrangers), Brendon Hollow (Williamstown), Tom Hooker (Collingwood), Adam Jago (North Launceston), Luke Jarrad (Williamstown), Paul Koulouriotis (Port Adelaide), Zane Leonard (Dandenong Stingrays), Clinton Proctor (Gippsland Power).
Taken from here (http://carltonfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=127986).
Ta muchly KD. Much appreciated. Very surprised to see Parry at Adelaide ... contradicts what I was told!
Kid Dynamite!
26 Nov 2003, 15:48
Well I thought I saw him on TV with our squad, but I guess it was probably someone else then.
We're probably looking very closely at Illman and I wouldnt be surprised if we picked up Hassan. I like that list.
Ford Fairlane
26 Nov 2003, 15:54
Originally posted by Kid Dynamite!
Well I thought I saw him on TV with our squad, but I guess it was probably someone else then.
We're probably looking very closely at Illman and I wouldnt be surprised if we picked up Hassan. I like that list.
A few interesting names there. I'm a bit of a fan of Paul Thomas, wouldn't mind rookie listing him. Good to see Illman's decided to turn out with Port - they've shown a bit of interest in him over the year. Kellett will be interesting ... big raps on him last year, but people say he's treacle slow and that's why he doesn't get drafted.
Kid Dynamite!
26 Nov 2003, 15:54
And then there's this article (I've deleted the stuff we already know):
12 local prospects join Power training
PortAdelaideFC.com.au
2:20:12 PM Wed 26 November, 2003
http://portadelaidefc.com.au/cp2/c2/webi/article/127989aq.jpg
Twelve players from SANFL clubs have joined pre-season training at the Port Adelaide Football Club, with the hope of being drafted.
The group joined training for the first time on Wednesday and will train through to Saturday 6 December.
“The players will train with us for a month which will give us a chance to look at the talent first hand,” said footy manager Mick Moylan.
“The match committee can then make an assessment on each player, leading into the drafts.”
The players are eligible to be selected in the Pre-Season Draft and Rookie Draft, both of which will take place on Tuesday, December 16.
That leaves the Power with one free space on its list which it has the option of filling in next month’s Pre-Season Draft.
Kid Dynamite!
26 Nov 2003, 16:00
Originally posted by Ford Fairlane
A few interesting names there. I'm a bit of a fan of Paul Thomas, wouldn't mind rookie listing him. Good to see Illman's decided to turn out with Port - they've shown a bit of interest in him over the year. Kellett will be interesting ... big raps on him last year, but people say he's treacle slow and that's why he doesn't get drafted.
I've been very impressed with what I've seen of Thomas this year, albeit it hasnt been too much. I dont think it was ever in any doubt with Illman and I dont know much about Kellett seeing as I dont follow the Magpies, but like you I've heard he's slow. Another thing I've heard is that he's got the turning circle of a 747.
Disappointed we're not considering anyone from Norwood however. ;)
Ford Fairlane
26 Nov 2003, 16:35
Originally posted by Kid Dynamite!
I've been very impressed with what I've seen of Thomas this year, albeit it hasnt been too much. I dont think it was ever in any doubt with Illman and I dont know much about Kellett seeing as I dont follow the Magpies, but like you I've heard he's slow. Another thing I've heard is that he's got the turning circle of a 747.
Disappointed we're not considering anyone from Norwood however. ;)
You'd have thought one of those monster college kids ... ;)
(btw Kellett's with Centrals not Port Magpies, otherwise I'd know a bit more about him ;) )
Kid Dynamite!
26 Nov 2003, 16:41
Originally posted by Ford Fairlane
You'd have thought one of those monster college kids ... ;)
(btw Kellett's with Centrals not Port Magpies, otherwise I'd know a bit more about him ;) )
The monster college kids are losing out, I tell ya!
(He is? Hmmm. I must have been thinking of an Illett brother. Damn these double consonants ;))
Macca19
26 Nov 2003, 16:45
Port Adelaide
Lucas Block (Glenelg), - Never heard of him
Alex Button (Glenelg), - Ditto
Dale Ellis (Woodville West Torrens) - Certainly wouldnt be a bad choice for a rookie list. Would like to mould him into a CHB. Pretty big boy and played well for the Eagles seniors this year
Adam Grocke (North Adelaide) - Ill jump for joy if we pick him up in the rookie draft. Got a lot of talent.
Salim Hassan (West Adelaide) - Would love him on our list
Cameron Ilett (Port Adelaide Mapgies) - Good choice. Surprised he didnt get picked up
Matt Illman (West Adelaide) - Havent seen him play
David Kellett (Central District) - I reckon someone else might rookie him instead of us.
Peter Mann (Port Adelaide Magpies) - not to sure who he is
Dylan Pfitzner (Central District) - Was expected to go in the draft and didnt. CHF type.
Paul Thomas (Central District) - Will be the yearly SANFL senior midfielder on our rookie list ala Borlace, Crabb, Hollands
Jarrod Wright (Woodville West Torrens) - Dumped by Brisbane, could get another chance with us.
Not a bad list there. IF we were to choose all our players from that lot Id probably go:
Pre Season - Hassan
Rookie - Thomas, Ellis, Grocke, Ilett
Russian
26 Nov 2003, 18:46
Francou is not on the veterans list
Wanganeen is but only in terms of salary cap - he is one of our list of 38
List has 37 including these 2 plus Patfull as a rookie
Leaves 1 PSD pick + up to 5 rookies, salary cap space permitting.
Are any of them ruckmen?
Originally posted by Kid Dynamite!
We're probably looking very closely at Illman .......
He'd go well with Brogan. A couple of young basketballers....
Kid Dynamite!
26 Nov 2003, 19:07
Originally posted by mic59
He'd go well with Brogan. A couple of young basketballers....
Brogan + Chaplin + Illman = :D
I'm 6 foot 6 and went to a 'College', do I get a shot?
I'm pretty bloody happy about Hassan as well! Wanganeen-esque in some of the things he did for us this year. And THAT mark in the prelim is something I will never forget. I'd be surprised if he was put on the main list though. I'm quite interested as to who we will pick up in the PSD.
Russian
27 Nov 2003, 00:36
Originally posted by sog35
I'm quite interested as to who we will pick up in the PSD. I don't reckon we'll pick up anyone, save the salary cap space for extra rookies and promote them if/when required. As long as we rookie list a ruckman and suicidal maniac Hassan.
Asgardian
27 Nov 2003, 01:35
Originally posted by Nod
Could I have the link to inside footy please, Thanks
Like Ford said, there's no link that I know of, I'll type out the details on the lads that I listed, let me know if there is a specific lad you know of, that I didn't mention, okay?
Rowan Andrews
Tassie Mariners, 11/5/85, 198cm, 82kg.
Has improved out of sight. His 2003, from 2002 when he played about 11 games, has improved an unbelievable amount. His work ethic and attitude is outstanding, playing mostly in the ruck, although he did go forward in one of the Challenge Cup games, against Qld and kicked 3 goals. He's a very good contested mark, and brave, he really has a crack. His kicking has improved heaps, but he's still a bit mechanical with his kicking, handballing and ground skills, but he's still very raw.
John Meesen
Geelong Falcons, 6/1/85, 199cm, 90kg.
Didn't go to the camp or screening, but is a tall player who came on in leaps and bounds throughout the year. He'll get over 200cm next year, and that fact alone might give him a chance to get drafted.
Will Gayfer
Murray Bushrangers, 12/7/85, 192cm, 92kg.
Tall, dour defender and at a pinch could play a bit of a rucking role. See him as a CHB, or FB. He's a long lerm defender at an AFL club and a very good prospect.
Michael Johnson
Perth, 20/10/84, 194cm, 92kg.
He played every game for the seniors and finished ninth for the best and fairest. He's a tall laconic sort of player, that stepped up and played CHB, after playing a lot in the forward line as a junior. He got a few good scalps along the way beating Brendan Fewster twice. Very skilled and has great composure - he gets the ball sometimes, and it all seems to stop around him. He's a natural footballer who at times, and he did it a lot as a junior, makes something out of nothing. He's got another level there that he doesn't know anything about yet. He's going to be one of those players who'll become a forward in time. There was quite a bit of talk about him during the year, Freo having met with him.
Joel Campbell
Pioneers, Alice Springs, 21/12/85, 187cm, 73kg.
He's related to Darryl White and Richard Cole, playing for the same club that they did. Very quick, very strong and hard at the ball. Will probably end up playing as a defender. Skillful on his preferred right side, but needs work on his left side ball use.
Tom Mentiplay
Sandringham Dragons, 11/12/85, 196cm, 90kg.
A Brighton Grammer kid, tall with very good skills. He's a rower, and rowed in Brighton's first rowing team. Had a really good school season, kicking a couple of bags of 6 or 7 from CHF. A bit of a draft mystery given his height and the little TAC games he's played. Played some good TAC games, but some exceptional school games. Can play CHF, CHB or go into the ruck.
Dean Chester
North Ballarat, 5/7/85, 178cm, 66kg.
Had an injury interrupted year (patella tendonitis and a stress fracture of the fibula), after having a sensational 2002. He kicked about 30 odd goals from about 70 shots in 2002, from a half forward flank. He's got lightning pace, and knows where the goals are. Recruiters like him because he's an excitement machine, kicking goals, and getting the crowd in. The upside to him is enormous.
Jacob Surjan[
South Fremantle, 15/8/85, 179cm, 75kg.
Very athletic player who is nationally rated as a long jumper, which showed at the draft camp. Good competitor in the middle of the ground, can kick a goal and take a mark which he showed at the national carnival. Very quick, but doesn't look it. Never gets tackled, but he lays a lot of tackles by running players down from behind. Played WAFL seniors mainly as a small forward, biggest question mark is his size.
Josh Bartel
Murray Bushrangers, 23/4/85, 191cm, 75kg.
Tall running wingman who kicks the ball a mile. Still very light, hasn't yet done much weight work. Very quick for his size, and kicks the ball 60mts. every time. Hard to match up on. Missed the latter stages of the year because he had his appendix out.
Adam Bentick
Calder Cannons, 13/6/85, 184cm, 81kg.
A midfielder and captain of the team. Has great awareness of what's around him, and uses the ball very well on his right foot. He's a team orientated player who loves to lay tackles, and work hard in and under the contests. Whilst reasonably quiet, he's a real leader, finishing runner up in the B&F.
Lukas Teague
South Fremantle, 181cm, 76kg.
Lightly framed player who has the best foot skills at the club bar none, including the senior players.He's a wingman/half-forward and more of an outside player at the moment, but that will change given time. Always finds the ball, and uses it really well.
James Allan
Geelong Falcons, 175cm, 76kg.
All Australian rover in 2002, but didn't play in 2003 after doing an ACL in a practice game. Would be a great rookie pick up. Pound for pound, he's as good a player that Michael Turner has seen. He may need to prove himself again though.
Cameron Hall
Bendigo Pioneers, 24/7/85, 176cm, 76kg.
Co-captain of Vic Country, is an exceptional ball getter. Plays as a rover/centreman, and is always in and under. Racks up big possession numbers.
Several there that sound real good to me
Originally posted by Russian
I don't reckon we'll pick up anyone, save the salary cap space for extra rookies and promote them if/when required. As long as we rookie list a ruckman and suicidal maniac Hassan.
I'm not sure who wrote it but it appeared the clubs intention was 1 preseason, 5 rookies.
I think if the club had someone in mind for the PSD they could "arrange" for them to nominate a 1 year contract at the minimum. Depends how desperately they want their chance on an AFL list I suppose.
blackdiamond
27 Nov 2003, 13:18
Don't all teams need to have a full squad for 2004?
My understanding is that there was a rule change to stop teams like Brisbane using their increased salary cap, loading up with top line players and only listing a team of 35.
I could be wrong but Im pretty sure I remember something like this.
Russian
27 Nov 2003, 13:26
Originally posted by Scott
Don't all teams need to have a full squad for 2004?
My understanding is that there was a rule change to stop teams like Brisbane using their increased salary cap, loading up with top line players and only listing a team of 35.
I could be wrong but Im pretty sure I remember something like this. Need to have 37-40 including veterans for 2004, then 38-40 for 2005 onwards. Pretty sure that's right
Barmera roo
27 Nov 2003, 21:52
Why isn't Parry training with Port I thought they invited him to train with them?
Greater possibility of game-time with the Crows, one would think.
Eddie Woloschek
28 Nov 2003, 07:32
Originally posted by Macca19
Port Adelaide
Dale Ellis (Woodville West Torrens) - Certainly wouldnt be a bad choice for a rookie list. Would like to mould him into a CHB. Pretty big boy and played well for the Eagles seniors this year
Jarrod Wright (Woodville West Torrens) - Dumped by Brisbane, could get another chance with us.
What are these people doing at Alberton. We don't want people from Loserville.
Porthos
28 Nov 2003, 08:35
We might be able to make an exception for Wright, if he's been sufficiently de-Eagled by Brisbane. Although it would probably mean commitment to play him in the senior side in case he gets re-Eagled.
Eddie Woloschek
28 Nov 2003, 09:46
Originally posted by Porthos
We might be able to make an exception for Wright, if he's been sufficiently de-Eagled by Brisbane. Although it would probably mean commitment to play him in the senior side in case he gets re-Eagled.
We play it safe and show him the door . . . NOW!