View Full Version : VB SERIES: 1st FINAL: AUSTRALIA vs INDIA, MCG, MATCH THREAD
piefan2002
5 Feb 2004, 19:39
ODI # 2097
VB Series, 2003/04, 1st Final
Australia v India
Melbourne Cricket Ground (day/night)
6 February 2004 (50-over match)
Umpires: SA Bucknor (WI) and SJA Taufel (AUS)
TV Umpire: DJ Harper (AUS)
4th Umpire: RL Parry (AUS)
Match Referee: CH Lloyd (WI)
AUSTRALIA (LIKELY)
1 Adam Gilchrist (wk),
2 Matthew Hayden,
3 Ricky Ponting (capt),
4 Damien Martyn,
5 Andrew Symonds,
6 Michael Clarke,
7 Simon Katich,
8 Brett Lee,
9 Jason Gillespie,
10 Brad Williams,
11 Michael Kasprowicz.
INDIA (LIKELY)
1 Sachin Tendulkar,
2 Virender Sehwag,
3 VVS Laxman,
4 Rahul Dravid (wk),
5 Sourav Ganguly (capt),
6 Yuvraj Singh,
7 Rohan Gavaskar,
8 Ajit Agarkar,
9 Irfan Pathan,
10 Anil Kumble,
11 L Balaji.
TAB SPORTSBET
Australia $1.42
India $2.65
Where do cricinfo come up with these 'likely' lineups? Kasprowicz and Kumble playing is very UNlikely IMHO. :confused:
Forecast top temperature is a very comfortable 27.
On the line-ups, let's be realistic:
Australia:
Gilchrist
Hayden
Ponting
Martyn
Symonds
Clarke
Bevan
Harvey
Lee
Gillespie
Williams
India:
Tendulkar
Sehwag
Dravid
Ganguly
Laxman
Singh
Gavaskar
Agarkar
Pathan
Balaji
Nehra
I don't care what the teams look like. When you see a batting line up with the likes of Tendulkar, Laxman, Dravid, Sehwag, Gangully and Singh you know your in for trouble. Go India!!!
apollo_creed
5 Feb 2004, 20:38
Originally posted by power#1
I don't care what the teams look like. When you see a batting line up with the likes of Tendulkar, Laxman, Dravid, Sehwag, Gangully and Singh you know your in for trouble. Go India!!!
Can't argue with that.
rchowell
5 Feb 2004, 21:17
Really looking forward to this game. Probably the biggest one dayer in this country since the 3rd Final in 1997/8 when we beat South Africa. I don't think that is too much of a stretch is it? Seeing as we've won everything else here pretty comfortably since. There have been 4 games - we've won 3 and India have won 1, and the one India won they pretty much had the upper hand the whole way, the game we won at the MCG we should have lost (from two stages - when we were 90/4 and when India were 250/4), and the one in Sydney we should have a) lost because nobody chases down 300 on the SCG, b) won in a canter after the great start and the rain, c) lost after the middle order collapse. The other game was of course the Perth game which is pretty much irrelevant UNLESS it plays on the Indians' psyche, which is a chance but I think it's pretty unlikely with the 2004 model Indian team. Ganguly has the necessary arrogance to help his team overcome that.
There really are some mouthwatering matchups all over the place - particularly looking at batsmen v batsmen (Gilchrist v Sehwag, Hayden v Tendulkar, Ponting v Laxman, Symonds v Yuvraj, Clarke v Ganguly, Katich v Dravid). Hope you like how I worked my way around Martyn v Gavaskar :p I think that tomorrow's game will be won by the bowlers though to be honest. I remember Dean Jones once said that finals always tend to be lower scoring because there was a lot more pressure around, and much like football finals are more often than not won by defences, I guess the same can be said for cricket.
The big challenge for the Indians is not to choke on the big stage as they did in the World Cup Final. Adam Gilchrist in his diary wrote about how Zaheer Khan came steaming in all fired up for the first ball of the day, but by the end of that 15 run first over he was a shadow of his former self - a broken man. Gilchrist and Hayden saw this and took full toll, backed up later on of course in spectacular fashion by Ponting and Martyn. They choked again in the TVS Cup Final in November, when they collapsed chasing just 235 in Calcutta.
Personally though I'm just leaning to the Aussies, not with any certainty though, and definitely not with the certainty that I usually tip the Aussies around this time of year, and that's good for cricket, especially in this country. Hoping for a real corker though, and if I'm winning the toss, I'm batting first and looking to set a target of around 250 for the evening session. BRING IT ON!
rchowell
5 Feb 2004, 21:43
Originally posted by Russian
Where do cricinfo come up with these 'likely' lineups? Kasprowicz and Kumble playing is very UNlikely IMHO. :confused:Maybe they have something against Ian Harvey. They wouldn't be the first :o They might be remembering his last innings on that ground when he had a brain fade and forgot how to run :p Personally I think he'll play and I hope he has a good day!
ViperV10
6 Feb 2004, 06:35
Originally posted by rchowell
The big challenge for the Indians is not to choke on the big stage.......They choked again in the TVS Cup Final
So we should be renaming them the Indian Power should we? :D
I can't believe that "likely" line-up for Australia....Hussey should be in instead of Katich (yes, I know he isn't in the squad anymore) and I don't quite know why Kasper would walk into the first final.
Originally posted by pazza
Forecast top temperature is a very comfortable 27.
On the line-ups, let's be realistic:
Australia:
Gilchrist
Hayden
Ponting
Martyn
Symonds
Clarke
Bevan
Harvey
Lee
Gillespie
Williams
India:
Tendulkar
Sehwag
Dravid
Ganguly
Laxman
Singh
Gavaskar
Agarkar
Pathan
Balaji
Nehra
Bevan certainly won't be there given he's injured. Swap him for Katich and your side could be on the money. You might have the Indian squad right too although I hope Kartik gets a game so we can smash him to all corners again :D
It's a beautiful day here today, should be a corker of a match.
anonymous Joe
6 Feb 2004, 10:33
Originally posted by pazza
Forecast top temperature is a very comfortable 27.
On the line-ups, let's be realistic:
Australia:
Gilchrist
Hayden
Ponting
Martyn
Symonds
Clarke
Bevan
Harvey
Lee
Gillespie
Williams
India:
Tendulkar
Sehwag
Dravid
Ganguly
Laxman
Singh
Gavaskar
Agarkar
Pathan
Balaji
Nehra
Swap Dravid for Laxman at 3, Darivid goes to 4 and Ganguly the pussy bats at 5.
guess_who
6 Feb 2004, 11:09
Any one know if the game is sold out yet?
Im going for india!
When you see Australia dominate for the last 5 years the way they have, it would be good to see something different.
Cooldude
6 Feb 2004, 11:24
Hope it goes to a 3rd final, at least it'd give those poor Queenslanders something to do :)
ViperV10
6 Feb 2004, 11:29
Yeah is there any word on whether it is a sellout? I am going to be bloody annoyed if it isn't......
Is a perfect day here as has already been stated...don't think there is much chance of rain ruining the match.
EagleBlue
6 Feb 2004, 11:43
Interesting to note that according to todays TV guide in the Hun. The game will be shown into Melbourne until 6:00pm. Wednesdays weekly TV guide also indicated this as well as last Sundays TV guide, although the Msn website still indicates 2:00-4:30. Guess we will find out soon enough
bomber70
6 Feb 2004, 11:48
not a sellout - 30,000 presold...tipping we'll get about 60,000.
Disgustipated
6 Feb 2004, 11:48
Originally posted by Cooldude
Hope it goes to a 3rd final, at least it'd give those poor Queenslanders something to do :)
Yeah bit bored of going to the beach every other day and perving on sexy chix in the Queen st mall:cool:
Originally posted by Disgustipated
Yeah bit bored of going to the beach every other day and perving on sexy chix in the Queen st mall:cool:
Its a hard life up here!! ;)
Easier to perve on the chicks at the beach though. :D
Not sure why they bothered to put Kaspa into the squad if he wasn't even going to be 12th man. Harvey can't bat so it must've been a line-ball decision.
Let's hope he gets a game next time.
goaldrush
6 Feb 2004, 12:22
Gilespie is bowling well. I hope that he can get Tendulker and Sehwag out.
Originally posted by bomber70
not a sellout - 30,000 presold...tipping we'll get about 60,000. yeah there should be a big walk-up since it is not mandatory to pre-book to be assured of a seat at the MCG, might have a chance of full coverage.
What happens if people rock up after work and it sells out around 7pm? will they go back to the cricket cutting off Frasier or whatever crap they put on?
I'm just happy that sundays game is being beamed live all day... wait, no i couldnt care less coz i'll be there :p
Sehwag gone to Gillespie.
AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI!! :D
Now to get Sachin and Laxman.... :(
Gillespie gets Sehwag. 1/6. Good start.
India seem hesitant, I'm sure they'll click soon though. Awesome batting strip.
Sounds like Dizzy is bowling pretty well so far.. .except they just scored a 4 off him. He has been due to pick up a few wickets.
Thanks for the updates people. Keep them coming for us who can only rely on the Net and CricInfo for the details.
Cheers
SKC
CatManDo
6 Feb 2004, 12:43
Can someone post the final teams? I assume Harvey is in the 11?
Originally posted by kaysee
Sounds like Dizzy is bowling pretty well so far.. .except they just scored a 4 off him. He has been due to pick up a few wickets.
Thanks for the updates people. Keep them coming for us who can only rely on the Net and CricInfo for the details.
Cheers
SKC If you are talking about Tendulkar's 4 he missed that by half a yard yet Bucknor's glasses are obviously the wrong strength so he didnt see that. Also i dont know how you could judge conclusively that Sehwag hit his ball, and i thought we obided by benefit of the doubt as opposed to balance of probabilities.
Lee just smacked Laxman on the helmet.
Brett Lee knocks over Suchin with a beauty....India 2/15 after 7.
Australia team:
+AC Gilchrist, ML Hayden, *RT Ponting, DR Martyn, A Symonds,
MJ Clarke, SM Katich, B Lee, JN Gillespie, BA Williams,
IJ Harvey.
Laxman looking in stellar form, starting to unwind.
Originally posted by nicko18
If you are talking about Tendulkar's 4 he missed that by half a yard yet Bucknor's glasses are obviously the wrong strength so he didnt see that. Also i dont know how you could judge conclusively that Sehwag hit his ball, and i thought we obided by benefit of the doubt as opposed to balance of probabilities.
Lee just smacked Laxman on the helmet.
A lot of those types of dismissals are a lot more obvious out on the field than they are on video. Same with bat/pad ones.
Marissa16
6 Feb 2004, 12:56
Brett Lee clean bowled Tendulker... GO AUSSIES!!
Roobunny
6 Feb 2004, 12:58
Originally posted by CarterS
Not sure why they bothered to put Kaspa into the squad if he wasn't even going to be 12th man. Harvey can't bat so it must've been a line-ball decision.
Let's hope he gets a game next time.
Because the selectors really hated Bichel?:p
Laxman is starting to look ominous. Playing some great shots after being hit in the head. 22 from 17 balls atm. Not bad considering India are 2/34 off 10.
Cooldude
6 Feb 2004, 13:10
Laxman starting to tee off, and Brett Lee bowling his fair share of crap, but some were put away and some weren't.
Good one to Tendulkar though
Laxman out, India 3/48 in the 14th.
Laxman gone. terrible shot. Catching practice. 3/48
Great start!
Poor shot from VVS... no doubt.
4/48 now. Ganguly and Yuvraj in together.
So what's happened in the past two matches... after being a rock solid top order all summer, they start to fall apart when it matters (not that last Sunday mattered).
Or have our bowlers finally learnt how to bowl to these guys?
red+black
6 Feb 2004, 13:41
thanks for coming India. I'm guessing Brisbane won't be getting that third final.
Originally posted by Cooldude
Laxman starting to tee off, and Brett Lee bowling his fair share of crap, but some were put away and some weren't.
Good one to Tendulkar though
And Cooldude is speaking his fair share of crap.
Fall Out Boy
6 Feb 2004, 13:58
FREAK!!!!
Fall Out Boy
6 Feb 2004, 13:59
Lee picks up another. Got to give him credit, he's well and truly backed up his form on the very friendly Perth wicket.
Badani and Agarkar need centuries to stop us from winning it now
Yuvraj nicks Lee to Gilchrist
****KKK!!!!! this is going to be all over by the time I get home from work tonight in about 3 hours. :(
WTF? Aren't Channel 9 supposed to be showing the entire first innings live to us in Melbourne?
Instead they have gone to Burgo's Catch Phrase! :mad:
Rough_Edges
6 Feb 2004, 14:39
106/6, Williams and Symonds are bowling!
Badani 10 from 27
Agarkar 18 from 29
RR: 3.35
Rough_Edges
6 Feb 2004, 14:44
Bowling O M R W
Gillespie 7 0 26 1
Lee 8 0 31 2 (3nb)
Williams 7 1 17 2
Symonds 1 0 4 0
Harvey 7 1 17 2
Lee and Harvey our best ?
vicpride99
6 Feb 2004, 14:48
How good was Harvey, They way he set his wickets up. Bloody Gilly dropped a simple one though.
red+black
6 Feb 2004, 14:49
Originally posted by lamby29
WTF? Aren't Channel 9 supposed to be showing the entire first innings live to us in Melbourne?
Instead they have gone to Burgo's Catch Phrase! :mad:
That has never been the case. Last 2 hours of a test shown, or first 2 hours of a one-dayer. And Burgo's Catch Phrase is quality anyway :rolleyes:
Originally posted by red+black
That has never been the case. Last 2 hours of a test shown, or first 2 hours of a one-dayer. And Burgo's Catch Phrase is quality anyway :rolleyes:
Very true. But for some reason all the tv guides today said we'd get the whole first innings to 6:00. God knows why now.
Poor captaincy by ponting....India should not have passed 3 figures, trundled down comfortable bowling for the tail and they are now 6 for 150 odd you have lee and Dizzy you ****ing bowl them at the tail.
Arrogance=**** poor:mad:
ViperV10
6 Feb 2004, 14:58
What the hell is happening? Agarker looks to be starting to show why everyone other than those with an Australian passport think he can bat a bit....44 off 44 with 2 sixes!
Aye Karumba.
Should be bowling strike bowlers at agarkar rather than this TROLLOP Symonds and Harvey are sending down!
and some people call Harvey a freak :rolleyes:
even Bevan would be dissappointed at that attempt at a run out, heck, even i would have been.
goaldrush
6 Feb 2004, 15:11
Originally posted by Zyban
Poor captaincy by ponting....India should not have passed 3 figures, trundled down comfortable bowling for the tail and they are now 6 for 150 odd you have lee and Dizzy you ****ing bowl them at the tail.
Arrogance=**** poor:mad: I wonder what you would do? What are you going to do about it?
Originally posted by goaldrush
I wonder what you would do? What are you going to do about it?
I think the post was pretty clear nitwit!! i would have bowled Dizzy and lee at them..........
Lee got about 5 balls at wingnutt, if he had have had 10 or more they'd be having tea.
Another great captains innings from Ganguly I see. It's about time Agarkar made some runs. This would just about beat his combined aggregate in Australia ;)
red+black
6 Feb 2004, 15:24
i thought symonds was kept on for too long. surely ponting wasn't thinking he'd actually get 10 overs out of him?
The Spornstar
6 Feb 2004, 15:24
Originally posted by nicko18
and some people call Harvey a freak :rolleyes:
Well you don’t, that’s for sure. He’s a Vic so you must criticise…keep up the good work Nicko. 10 overs 2-40, trollop no doubt.
Originally posted by The Spornstar
Well you don’t, that’s for sure. He’s a Vic so you must criticise…keep up the good work Nicko. 10 overs 2-40, trollop no doubt. no, i don't. He's about the luckiest player to be selected due to the policy "we must have an all-rounder in the side". How he got selected for the WC i'll never know.
Nonsense, don't pour that typical Victorian attitude on me. What state they come from makes no difference.
Well done to Harvey overall. What i saw was obviously not the whole picture.
edit:- and by the way, i was talking about his fielding too. Would you argue that a park cricketer should have completed that run-out?
vicpride99
6 Feb 2004, 15:29
I love the freak but he just gets me so mad. Today he was killing it 2-17 off 7 overs. Then he bowls crap. I mean the guy is a freak he can do some great stuff but he can also do some shocking stuff.
Needed a solid game and well did he have one????????
goaldrush
6 Feb 2004, 15:29
Originally posted by Zyban
I think the post was pretty clear nitwit!! i would have bowled Dizzy and lee at them..........
Lee got about 5 balls at wingnutt, if he had have had 10 or more they'd be having tea. Well then Get Off Your High Horse then idiot
Rough_Edges
6 Feb 2004, 15:30
Clarke got Agarakar in his first over! COME ON!
Harvey did great in his 1st 6 or so overs, however Ponting should have rung the changes once he and Symonds started getting belted about the park. Should have had atleast 1 of our quicks back in from 1 end.
SKC
vicpride99
6 Feb 2004, 15:32
Nicko18 how can you say he is lucky to play in that side. He adds tons of variety and is the best medium pacer in Australia. And has proven his worth in the World Cup, West Indies, TVS cup and had a good game today.
Originally posted by vicpride99
Nicko18 how can you say he is lucky to play in that side. He adds tons of variety and is the best medium pacer in Australia. And has proven his worth in the World Cup, West Indies, TVS cup and had a good game today. ok vicpride, the thing is, at the time going into the world cup he was woeful with the bat and just as bad with the ball, yet he kept on getting games.
The two series prior to the WC he averaged 9.4 with the bat and 40.7 with the ball.
Its the same as what happened with Symonds. There was no justification for their selection to the world cup. You just shouldnt pick allrounders for the sake of it IMO because they were both getting belted with the ball and failing with the bat. To their credit though they did turn it around in the world cup, and now are regulars in the side. Harvey is still hit and miss, but Symonds is amongst our best players.
IceTemple
6 Feb 2004, 15:42
Pathan run out. C'mon Aussies wrap up the last two quickly!
Originally posted by goaldrush
Well then Get Off Your High Horse then idiot
Did you forget to take your medication?
If you can't reply to a post with a little bit of sense then please refrain.
Originally posted by Nicko18
and some people call Harvey a freak
He was named that by his teamates from his fielding ablility. He can take miraculous catches. How many guys in the aussie team can throw with either arm...?
Originally posted by marcuz
He was named that by his teamates from his fielding ablility. He can take miraculous catches. How many guys in the aussie team can throw with either arm...? Forgive me marcuz, venting frustration at the easiest of runouts just gone begging.
its ok nicko..i was as ****ed off as you were that a man of his fielding ability could duff a chance like that
IceTemple
6 Feb 2004, 15:50
Another throw by Clarke, another run out!!
vicpride99
6 Feb 2004, 15:50
Nicko18 Harvey is a match winner. That is why he is in the team. And the selectors see it that way as they are playing him as a bowler. Name a player in Australia that could fill the role he fills.
Can bat a bit.
Is the best Medium pacer in Australia.
Has the best change up balls in Austrlia.
Can win a game off his own back.
And has good fielding ability.
Name One player who can fill that role.
IceTemple
6 Feb 2004, 15:53
Symonds
Originally posted by vicpride99
Nicko18 Harvey is a match winner. That is why he is in the team. And the selectors see it that way as they are playing him as a bowler. Name a player in Australia that could fill the role he fills.
Can bat a bit.
Is the best Medium pacer in Australia.
Has the best change up balls in Austrlia.
Can win a game off his own back.
And has good fielding ability.
Name One player who can fill that role.
If you're betting on anyone to get two wickets and make a quick 25 odd off 20 balls, Harvey's the man. I'd back the Bich too, but he'll never be given a fair go.
If I were a betting man, I'd also stake $500 on the selectors not wanting an all-rounder if Harvey was unavailable.
Originally posted by vicpride99
Nicko18 Harvey is a match winner. That is why he is in the team. And the selectors see it that way as they are playing him as a bowler. Name a player in Australia that could fill the role he fills.
Can bat a bit.
Is the best Medium pacer in Australia.
Has the best change up balls in Austrlia.
Can win a game off his own back.
And has good fielding ability.
Name One player who can fill that role. i agree, but my point was, could you say that before the world cup? He has been given an extremely good run. Normally an allrounder is a guy who could hold his place on batting or bowling alone. Harvey could do neither, infact he was losing us matches by getting out so cheaply and getting hammered whilst bowling and not picking up wickets.
And on Symonds the 2 VB series' before the world cup:
3.7 with the bat, and 53.0 with the ball.
Originally posted by nicko18
i agree, but my point was, could you say that before the world cup? He has been given an extremely good run. Normally an allrounder is a guy who could hold his place on batting or bowling alone. Harvey could do neither, infact he was losing us matches by getting out so cheaply and getting hammered whilst bowling and not picking up wickets.
And on Symonds the 2 VB series' before the world cup:
3.7 with the bat, and 53.0 with the ball.
That's not exactly my idea of an all-rounder. Sure, it's handy having guys like Boof Lehmann who are definitely batsmen, but can bowl a bit or Shane Warne who is the opposite.
Then there's the guys like Andy Bichel, Ian Harvey and to a lesser extent Steve Waugh at the start of his career. Guys who come in to bat at #7 and are expected to make about 20 supporting a recognized batsman, and also do their bit as the 5th bowler. Nothing extreme, just a good solid contribution.
Originally posted by Rodion
If you're betting on anyone to get two wickets and make a quick 25 odd off 20 balls, Harvey's the man. I'd back the Bich too, but he'll never be given a fair go.
don't accept odds of less than $20, because he has done so (25+ runs and 2 wickets) only only 2 times in the past 3 years (40 matches)
Originally posted by Rodion
Guys who come in to bat at #7 and are expected to make about 20 supporting a recognized batsman 20 would have been Harvey's highest score in almost 2 years prior to the world cup.
Fall Out Boy
6 Feb 2004, 17:06
Originally posted by nicko18
Nonsense, don't pour that typical Victorian attitude on me. What state they come from makes no difference.
Rubbish. You go out of your way to criticise Victorian cricketers.
Just out of interest, who was the last Victorian cricketer you gave a rap?
Small **** syndrome.
goaldrush
6 Feb 2004, 17:12
I think that nicko18 has a grudge on Ian Harvey.
thewhippersnapper
6 Feb 2004, 17:19
Aussies 1/66 off 11 overs going a long nicely and should be able to win this match. Still shocked they let them get to 222 considering at 1 point they were 6/80.
Ian Harvey is a good player and I think he deserves a spot in the team. What about Watson? Is he going to get a spot later on?
jerry springer
6 Feb 2004, 17:20
Originally posted by goaldrush
I think that nicko18 has a grudge on Ian Harvey.
you dont say.
thanks for that captain obvious......
Originally posted by phatandphreaky
Rubbish. You go out of your way to criticise Victorian cricketers.
Just out of interest, who was the last Victorian cricketer you gave a rap?
Small **** syndrome.
:D . I will let you speak for me as I would hate to be accused of stalking.:(
I dont see how people can criticise Pontings captaincy. It worked beautifully. Gilly up to the stumps for Ganguly. Bringing the slip in for Dravid. The unconventional backward point on the circle for Laxman. Bringing Lee back after 20 overs. Great stuff Punter and co.
Considering most people have Dravid batting at number 3 in their world XI, it wasnt of a bad effort from the freak.
thewhippersnapper
6 Feb 2004, 18:24
Ponting having a good match 1st the captaincy as mentioned above and now the batting.
He is 67 off 65. Aussies have this in the bag.
goaldrush
6 Feb 2004, 18:26
Meanwhile, Ricky Ponting is back in form.
He is on 80
IceTemple
6 Feb 2004, 18:28
Now, back to the cricket...
Ponting is starting to go beserk! Looks like he's going for a quick fire 100. 82 (72)
catattack
6 Feb 2004, 18:29
1/174 30th over.
Hayden 42
Ponting 82
Easy as you like. :cool:
catattack
6 Feb 2004, 18:39
Haydos at 50. Very easy going this one indeed, off 91 balls.
IceTemple
6 Feb 2004, 18:40
Hayden out c&b Bilaji after 60 years and 1000 replays showing that he was out.
Fall Out Boy
6 Feb 2004, 18:53
DR Martyn 0* (13b)
catattack
6 Feb 2004, 18:55
Originally posted by phatandphreaky
DR Martyn 0* (13b)
As you speak, he breaks the shackles with a flick through midwicket for three.
But as shown above, he took his fair time getting off the mark!
Crooked Rain
6 Feb 2004, 18:56
Originally posted by marcuz
He was named that by his teamates from his fielding ablility. He can take miraculous catches. How many guys in the aussie team can throw with either arm...?
Ahh, So that's why his called Freak. I thought it was because of his Freakish ability which is obviously not the case.
Thanks for that. I feel much better.
Cogs is a gun
6 Feb 2004, 18:56
And there goes ponting for 88...damn i wanted him to get a ton
Originally posted by phatandphreaky
Rubbish. You go out of your way to criticise Victorian cricketers.
Just out of interest, who was the last Victorian cricketer you gave a rap?
Small **** syndrome. rubbish phat, talk about small **** syndrome thinking everybody is conspiring against you. there are only 2 victorian cricketers that i make comment on, one of whom i have said is the best player i have seen play the game. I've even said i hope they win the comp. Now do you think Harvey deserved a spot in the WC?
and outside those two - why dont you put your money where your mouth is and show where i have done so. Unlike you, i dont make reference to conpiracies regarding Victoria and thats how they get a guy like Harvey in the side because i sure as hell know you would be after his blood if he was from NSW. That is small **** sydnrome.
Getting so defensive when one of your precious statesmen is spoken of critically. You are actually convinced i am paranoid about victoria. It is you who is paranoid, Symonds an oversight was it? As i said, doesnt matter what state they are from, it is people like you who get all shirty and think the world is against them because 1 out of 5 players critisized was actually a Victorian.
Originally posted by goaldrush
I think that nicko18 has a grudge on Ian Harvey. well i don't know him personally, suzi.
goaldrush
6 Feb 2004, 19:24
Originally posted by nicko18
well i don't know him personally, suzi. Well then why bag him.......
Australia won the match.