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OK, that makes more sense then.
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OK, that makes more sense then.
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Agree with this.
Don't even know if it needs to be informally formally agreed to.
very true... they are all in the same boat and will want to create good will amongst each other for years to come
Thats a Big Big Call
How much better than Rance,Scarlett can he be ?
Is he going to be better than say SOS & Langford
There are no guarantees that he will be that once in a 'generation' player you talk off
Asgardian
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He looks excellent, but he's a blazing standout because his group of peers is not as good as the peers of other number 1's & 2's of most other draft years.
It has been said many times, this is not a good draft year.
If you said Dalai Lama I would have believed you.
Looking at one of the AFL.com videos
http://www.afl.com.au/video/2015-11-12/weirdest-recruiter-questions
A fair few of those lads should have worked harder at their school lessons, Matthew Kennedy sounds a roo short in the old top paddock
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To be honest, I reckon a pillow is sharper then Kennedy. Not to sure if he could spell his own name.
At least he can play footy.
never know... we are still waiting for the trade system to change after the foot state clubs are routing the go home factor arent we
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Not really.
There are no guarantees with any draftee, Weitering is just viewed as being the closest thing to a sure thing, regardless of position.
Ahhh The Gun! You've finally popped your head up after our last 'discussion'. Welcome back.
Agreed. It's a big call. As I replied to other people who jumped down my throat - the experts have suggested this due to his maturity, skills, determination and leadership traits. After years of not much from my footy team, this is my hope with our no.1 pick; none of us have crystal balls and nothing is guaranteed. The context it was given was in response to a poster saying we take Schache before Weitering, which I strongly disagree with.
As for putting Rance's name in with SOS and Scarlett - that's plain stretching it..
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Pretty sure the Lions have just landed a marquee player and another solid player in the last two offseasons due to the 'go home factor'. It's not just the Lions who have issues with this, despite what you and other Lions supporters keep saying.
And paid appropriately for both... my comment was aimed at the targeting of top pick players with pissy 2nd round picks as soon as 2 years after their draft. Which is fine as that is what the system allows... still needs fixing. But it is funny how after years of battling home sickness/footy state dreams and starting to lose the battle with self-entitled rookies, the Academies are set up to stem the flow... And it is a problem?
Alex Rance is well and truly deserved amongst SOS & Scarlett
at 26 years of age and dual AA and has comprehensively been the best FB last 2 years - Yes Alex is amongst them
"Ahhh The Gun! You've finally popped your head up after our last 'discussion'. Welcome back."
WTF !!! Mate i have never left or gone anywhere and to make your point even more stupid, I have been posting on the Carlton board every day for the last 3 weeks and even participated in your phantom draft - Ive been here bur maybe after copping such a hiding in our last discussion you have not recovered and gone into denial
I LOVE THE DRAKE HaHaHAHA
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I don't think rance is as good as sos or Scarlett (yet but still has time on his side) but he is in that bracket. Same as players like P. Roos, B. Lake, C. Cornes, etc....
So I don't think he is stretching it.
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It's lucky that Collingwood hasn't had a top 10 pick walk out after two years for a pissy second rou.....
Oh wait...
Wietering will be a good talent, but if you're going in expecting Scarlett or Silvagni you're going to be disappointed. He is far now likely to end up like a Luke Mcpharlin, which would be a great result. Athletic, competitive CHB who will lock down the position for 15 years.
I think that's the problem with supporters and drafts. The no.1 pick is usually the consensus best player of his generation at 18, but things change between 18 and 25 and there are 15-20 generations of players running around at any one time. So if you get a top 20 in the comp player from a pick 1 it's an absolute fluke.
Getting an all time great? You're looking at a 100-1 bet.
I think that's the problem with supporters and drafts. The no.1 pick is usually the consensus best player of his generation at 18, but things change between 18 and 25 and there are 15-20 generations of players running around at any one time. So if you get a top 20 in the comp player from a pick 1 it's an absolute fluke.
Getting an all time great? You're looking at a 100-1 bet.
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Have to agree.. "once in a generation" is a big call and if it fell that way would be simply magnificent for the CFC. However, if not, I'd be extremely happy with a 200+ game CHB that we could build a strong defensive unit around for the next decade..
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Knocking Weitering after Hurley and Talia were a lock for Carlton. I've heard it all after we were also supposed to draft Watson and Jaksch because they were tall. Even Bombers fans would have laughed if we passed on Day or Lynch for Heppell.
Weitering is competitive, a leader and an alround athlete who stands 195 cms who is still 17. Saints just traded pick five for a six year KPP who celebrated on Snapchat, yet had a similar "phone it in year" like Yarran and Henderson. Poor Carlton.
Weitering is the next Rance if he gets belted in the 2022 finals by a flaky veteran like Waite....
Talia, Taylor and the injury prone Ben Reid have shown more than Rance.
Weitering is competitive, a leader and an alround athlete who stands 195 cms who is still 17. Saints just traded pick five for a six year KPP who celebrated on Snapchat, yet had a similar "phone it in year" like Yarran and Henderson. Poor Carlton.
Weitering is the next Rance if he gets belted in the 2022 finals by a flaky veteran like Waite....
Talia, Taylor and the injury prone Ben Reid have shown more than Rance.
Rubbish. Rance has scarlett covered as a one on one defender and sos covered as a rebounder. Dont forget sos was allowed to arm chop and wrestle. Rance is a champion no two ways about it
fair enough... your top 10 didnt play a game and has serious injury concerns long term. And you may be a little behind in the pressure of "go home" compared to a club like the Lions. If you cant understand how and why the academies were set up then I dont know what to say
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I understand perfectly, but it doesn't mean I agree with it. Whilst the concept is great, at the end of the day the academies provide northern clubs with serious competitive advantages that southern clubs can't emulate. It's like going from one extreme to the opposite.
I actually agree that northern clubs need help, but I don't agree with this solution.
I recognize your concerns of teh advantage... but like I said, clubs have taken advantage of the Lions for years and got 1st round talent on the cheap. Lions are coming from a long way back before such advantage works for us.
One thing people don't realize is that in the era of talent dilution across the league per-academies we should see more Footy State talent stay in those states... Im sure you footy state clubs will survive.
Aish walking out to the Pies (instead of going home) shows that the pies will be fine
Seems to be a current thing with Tigers fans massively over-rating their players. WTF, Rance as good as SOS? Picked at full back in the all-time team? Twice B and F, could swing forward and kick goals as well? Two premierships? Silvagni played in an era of the best full-forwards the game has ever seen and is still acclaimed as the best FB in the games history. If Rance has a third of a SOS career he will be the best full back of this era. Someone must be mailing out a baggie of cannabis sativa for every post in the BF Tigers forum, and it must be very potent.
And this after all the Vickery rubbish in Knightmare's thread.
And this after all the Vickery rubbish in Knightmare's thread.
