Martin is 180cm, you are after Martin and Kennedy for different reasons you were looking at Martin because he is a good player not getting an opportunity at the pies and you will be looking at Kennedy, Broomhead, Grundy and Scharenberg every time they are coming out of contract as they are South Australians and you will try and bring them home.
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Sorry that was a typo - was meant to be 178cm
They are clones!
Cheers for the info though. I wonder if we'll end up with any of these three after the trade period.
Most likely to get Williams, Martin is about to re-sign and Kenno is getting a game now so he will probably stay
The ones who say it and mean it would still say the same thing if they didn't. So they're definitely not all talking crap, but you will never hear a different viewpoint while a player is still at the club. It's very rare for a player to bag the club publicly even after they've moved on.
Seriously, how good is Roo? Getting these boys, these critical 3 guns, tied up in his business to try to lock them in to the club. He is dead set going to be the savior of the AFC. Knighthood I reckon.
Neither Jack or Nick were all australian key forwards in just their 2nd season and at age 20
Bigs take longer but danger had not achieved as much at same age.
All Australian KPF at 20. 2nd year. In a crappy expansion team.
Wayne Carey wasn't AA at 20.
Who knows what the future holds but right now? Wow
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Very true. I get that people don't want to trade Danger for him but to try and angle it that Cameron isn't an absolute must have is just crazy
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Yeah it all sounds good until he says at the last minute nah I don't like the direction the clubs going in and leaves as a free agent for pick 14 or 15, no thanks.
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A bigger deal out west.
Sounds a decent player. How far is he off collingwood main side?
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A bigger deal out west.
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Right now not so wow.
It kind of does matter that it's only one season, GWS don't warrant a lot of respect this was especially the case in 2013.
GWS got smashed all year leaving plenty of junk time goals for our champ when teams took their foot off the pedal and of course he was the best avenue.
After a stand out year you get a lot more opposition respect and the cheap goals you were getting dry up as players have had a good look at you.
Already having performing KPFs at the club to me the idea of trading out our best player equates to a net loss.
He clearly is a great talent but Danger isn't done improving nor are our KPFs.
He is VFL listed
So many of GWS games were over by the first or second quarter in 2013.
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It's true though
That sounds like stubbornness.
Take a good look at the quarter by quarter break downs for GWS games, if you don't think that is evidence
I'm not saying they are all in junk time just a considerable amount of them would be due to how soundly they were flogged and played with by sides.
Get so far ahead in the first go to sleep kill them after the half, rest your players it's only GWS the bye week with a percentage boost for half decent sides.
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Taylor Walkers 2012 was better then Cameron's 2013. Sure he was 2 years older but Cameron was given the opportunity a lot earlier. Taylor's opportunities were limited due to Craig. People will argue that Cameron was playing in an average side. But look at the skill level of that mid field. The delivery Cameron received is a lot better then that of Adelaide.
Taylor Walker will get back to his best form and Jenkins seems to improve with every game.
I would love to see Cameron come to Adelaide but I don't see him as a "must get"
Taylor Walker will get back to his best form and Jenkins seems to improve with every game.
I would love to see Cameron come to Adelaide but I don't see him as a "must get"
Evidence is quite etheral and exists around perception and agreement, if one person puts his fingers in his ears and closes his eyes it doesn't exist and isn't recognized.
I'm not trawling back through the most terrible games of the 2013 season to detail every time there was a scott welsh special served up.
The simplest thing you can look at is the quarter by quarter breakdown and his goals in the game.
AA are not immune to hype nor are they immune to being expansion apologists, his disposal average isn't something extra special, he didn't exactly have to kill it or turn games to make AA he just had high goal tally and ranked well for contested marks, I'm not making a court case here I'm posting on a forum where I assume people aren't complete w***ers.
I wouldn't trade for Cameron, he's got too much perceived value and not enough worth to the club or form.
If the choice is Danger or Cameron...
When people think about Adelaide they think of Dangerfield. He is synonymous with the club. You don't trade him unless he wants out. It would be like trading out Selwood or Pendlebury. Unthinkable. You don't trade a top 5 midfield beast for anything unless you have no choice.
Cameron is a gun, top 5 KPF. But we already have a top 5 KPF. And there are plenty of sides with gun KPFs that are uncompetitive (St Kilda, anyone?) and plenty of flag winning sides who don't have a gun KPF. ALL flag winning sides have gun midfields.
Its fine to say midfielders are a dime a dozen, its true to an extent. But elite midfielders are not. Danger has his down games, he is right on the doorstep of his prime when consistency will come from experience. Right now he's making a lot of silly mistakes that are a crucial stage in that learning process. But I think people would be rudely awakened if faced with watching us throughout the entirety of a season without Dangerfield. If you took our side, added Cameron and subtracted Dangerfield it would be a weaker side.
When people think about Adelaide they think of Dangerfield. He is synonymous with the club. You don't trade him unless he wants out. It would be like trading out Selwood or Pendlebury. Unthinkable. You don't trade a top 5 midfield beast for anything unless you have no choice.
Cameron is a gun, top 5 KPF. But we already have a top 5 KPF. And there are plenty of sides with gun KPFs that are uncompetitive (St Kilda, anyone?) and plenty of flag winning sides who don't have a gun KPF. ALL flag winning sides have gun midfields.
Its fine to say midfielders are a dime a dozen, its true to an extent. But elite midfielders are not. Danger has his down games, he is right on the doorstep of his prime when consistency will come from experience. Right now he's making a lot of silly mistakes that are a crucial stage in that learning process. But I think people would be rudely awakened if faced with watching us throughout the entirety of a season without Dangerfield. If you took our side, added Cameron and subtracted Dangerfield it would be a weaker side.
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Taylor's opportunities were limited due to Taylor, nobody else. Revisionist history isn't going to win any arguments.
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It isn't revisionist history considering it was the popular opinion at the time. At least in 2011 it was when we had Danger buried at full forward a lack of midfield depth and Tex running around in the SANFL for half a season.
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