Tom Rockliff v Dayne Beams

[scott_the_man]

both the same age, height, weight and from the same draft. both are influencial midfielders to their teams and will likely be captains some day. who's better?

 

[Bailey01]

Rockliff is excellent but more of an accumulator but Beams more damaging with his goal kicking

 

[Ironmonger]

Hasn't this been done before?

Anyway, Beams is the right player for Collingwood, and Brisbane is the right player for Brisbane. If you swapped them you'd made both teams worse.

 

[jiphoc]

I would take Rockliff every day of the week. I just really like the way he plays and if always very team orientated. I respect that.

Beams is a brilliant player and this is nothing against him. I just rather Rockliff.

 

[TheHoneyBadger]

With both at full flight, I'd take Beams, but right at this point in time I'd take Rockliff.

Beams is getting back to his best, though.

 

[pieman123]

Both are underrated, people have hard ons for Danger and Fyfe but these 2 are just as good if not better.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Both are underrated, people have hard ons for Danger and Fyfe but these 2 are just as good if not better.

Nah, they have foundations as good as those two but aren't on the same level in regards to burst impact that wins games.

 

[detox]

Rockcliff. Easily.

Beams is a great player, but has spend basically all his career as the third best midfielder in his side (this year second best). Sure he is not always left completely unchecked but it is much easier playing behind 2 established guns then holding a struggling team on your shoulders. Would love to see what would happen to Beams if the roles were reversed.

Love Rockcliffs mongrel as well. Id take him before Beams in a heartbeat.

 

[pieman123]

Nah, they have foundations as good as those two but aren't on the same level in regards to burst impact that wins games.

Beams is a better kick than those 2 and kicks more goals , much more damaging

 

[blueiris]

Love both players and both could possibly be at the same club in future years but voted for Rockiff is a bull in a China store the best contested player in the AFL

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Beams is a better kick than those 2 and kicks more goals , much more damaging

Dreaming.

 

[cotter101]

Would have said Beams at the start of the year. Rockliff has overtaken him though. He's dramatically improved his contested ball and clearance winning ability, tackling has further improved and he is certainly impacting games. Both are elite players, but I've got Rockliff that extra bit higher now.

 

[pieman123]

Dreaming.

Nope

 

[Bobby_]

Both are underrated

Beams is overrated as he's often the second player mentioned (behind Pendlebury) whenever Collingwood are talked about.

 

[timtamWB]

Beams is overrated as he's often the second player mentioned (behind Pendlebury) whenever Collingwood are talked about.

Who would you mention in front of him? Cloke would be the only one, and he's always the second player mentioned. So Beams is always third mentioned, and is the 2nd best mid at that club currently.

 

[ThisIsJake]

Rockliff is a better tackler and accumulator.

Beams is a better ball user and goal kicker.

Would both have equal value on the open market in my opinion. But i'll vote Beams because, well...

 

[Bailey01]

Both are underrated, people have hard ons for Danger and Fyfe but these 2 are just as good if not better.

Danger and Fyfe play their best when it matters. Beams and Rockliff are great but more of accumulators but can be really damaging but not in the same level as Fyfe n Danger.

 

[Bailey01]

Picked Beams because he's a goal kicker

 

[Black Flag]

beams.

 

[Big Sauce 21]

Picked Beams because he's a goal kicker

I Know it's not relevant any more but rockliff is actually a forward. Kicked 59 goals in the TAC

 

[Bailey01]

I Know it's not relevant any more but rockliff is actually a forward. Kicked 59 goals in the TAC

Didn't know that

 

[Bailey01]

I Know it's not relevant any more but rockliff is actually a forward. Kicked 59 goals in the TAC

Possibly that's why he was overlooked in national draft? That they didn't know what position he would play at AFL?

 

[scott_the_man]

Possibly that's why he was overlooked in national draft? That they didn't know what position he would play at AFL?

was overlooked because he was considered a poor athlete. didnt have any good athletic attributes like speed, agility, strength or endurance. luckily brisbane realised he was a natural footballer and drafted him for that reason

 

[ThisIsJake]

Danger and Fyfe play their best when it matters. Beams and Rockliff are great but more of accumulators but can be really damaging but not in the same level as Fyfe n Danger.

Thats just not true. Beams and Rockliff have both performed better than Fyfe and Danger in the big moments this year.

And Beams is also a very damaging player per disposal, as is Danger. I would say Fyfe and Rockliff are lagging behind them in that area.

 

[Bert Man]

was overlooked because he was considered a poor athlete. didnt have any good athletic attributes like speed, agility, strength or endurance. luckily brisbane realised he was a natural footballer and drafted him for that reason

Adding to that I'll quote Leppa "He goes alright for a bloke with his body"