Kreuzer and pick 6 is a fair trade. Can't see it happening though, GWS aren't screaming for a ruckman and I just don't think the club would bundle Kreuzer.
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just....no
Get away from my Kreuz.
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Titus O said it well. Bloody surprising that Tyrone had the coordination to make contact.
Doubt he could repeat it on demand...
Why? I can give you plenty of reasons why both teams would benefit from it. Hit me with some that would change my mind!
If I had to choose between the two, I would choose Walker too. Just don't think he would get it done. Hope it's the case that we get the trade and keep both. Of course it just means someone else we all love will be wearing that shitty orange and white jumper...
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Nope. Because Kreuz is >>>>> than Warnock. And then we'll be stuck with Warnock. Not to mention Walker is 28 with a seriously bad knee. Trade Tex for the long term gain.
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If we don't want Jeffy (by we I mean club, because I want him) why would GWS want him? They've got their own good small forwards. Not to mention they can go through the midfield too.
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Of course it just means someone else we all love will be wearing that shitty orange and white jumper...
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Wishful thinking but you'd take Patton (or Boyd) and Mitchell for our first four picks in a heartbeat. That'd be the best result for us too as we wouldn't lose Kreuzer, Cas or Walker ect and possibly upset the boys.
Walker, Jamo, Tuohy
Rowe, Hendo, Doc
Gribbs, Cripps, Bell
Kreuz, Murph, Curnow
Yarran, Cas, Menzel
Daisy, Patton, Everitt
Buckley, Mitchell, Graham, Johnson
Regardless of positions you could build a solid team around that list.
Wishful thinking though...
Walker, Jamo, Tuohy
Rowe, Hendo, Doc
Gribbs, Cripps, Bell
Kreuz, Murph, Curnow
Yarran, Cas, Menzel
Daisy, Patton, Everitt
Buckley, Mitchell, Graham, Johnson
Regardless of positions you could build a solid team around that list.
Wishful thinking though...
Cant wait to see Gribbs pull the jumper on!!
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This.
Kreuzer trade just won't happen. GWS have ruckmen now (current output says that Mumford is better than Kreuzer) not to mention a plethora of talls.
If you're going to trade them something, it has to be for something they need. For instance, Garlett (with some confidence) would be streets ahead of their best small forward. Walker playing forward is very much an upgrade on Palmer etc etc.
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If it is Kruezer + 6, I would want their 2nd round pick (21ish) rather than their 3rd. If not a player like JOR or Greene somehow thrown into the deal.
Kruezer does address a bit of a need for them. Mumford is 28 and may have 2 good years maybe left in him.
If Kruezer got back to his best (which i have no doubt he will), Kruezer and Mumford would form a decent ruck combo.
I recall seeing a rumour in one of these threads... That Sydney were getting Rory Lobb in that 3 way trade. If Lobb goes to Sydney, they definitely would require another ruck.
Kruezer does address a bit of a need for them. Mumford is 28 and may have 2 good years maybe left in him.
If Kruezer got back to his best (which i have no doubt he will), Kruezer and Mumford would form a decent ruck combo.
I recall seeing a rumour in one of these threads... That Sydney were getting Rory Lobb in that 3 way trade. If Lobb goes to Sydney, they definitely would require another ruck.
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Lets be clear - this isnt about rational thinking or logic. I would be very unhappy if we traded kruezer.
We don't have to keep Warnock either Etsal1 - we can also trade him away now. If we lose Kreuz, we would of course re-stock the rucks.
Getting Tom Boyd doesn't mean 2015 Carlton premiership. There is time to sort the list out.
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Just a thought - if we're seriously going to go for Boyd, I reckon we need to try everything this year. If Patton or Cameron end up leaving next year, then GWS will be very unlikely to want to trade Boyd. Although they might not have a choice given Boyd will be uncontracted, but they might just make it harder.
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I think that's the general consensus. Unless we plan on coming last next season, we need to get it done in October.
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I get that. But I don't see how keeping Walker over Kreuz is such a desirable preference?
Walker is 28. His knee is pretty bad. Probably reached his peak already.
Kreuz is 24. Hasn't even hit his prime and is our best ruck.
We could play Kreuz as our number 1 ruck which he relishes and Levi as pinch hitter. Even Boyd could do the ruck work in the forward 50 (he's pretty good at it).
Then we trade Warnock. Keep Wood as back up.
We have coverage for Walker.
If Walker is trade bait, I would be more inclined to cast him into the Sydney Swans pond and try to catch Tom Mitchell.
Think Walks would want to got there and have a shot at a flag and with Shaw 32 and Malceski 30 and a FA asking for a fat 3 year contract I would say Walker would appeal to them too.
Kreuzer's body is a worry and other teams know that. Cant see any point in shipping him off for unders.
In fact can't see any point in shipping him off at all given that he might come right and improve our team immeasurably.
Think Walks would want to got there and have a shot at a flag and with Shaw 32 and Malceski 30 and a FA asking for a fat 3 year contract I would say Walker would appeal to them too.
Kreuzer's body is a worry and other teams know that. Cant see any point in shipping him off for unders.
In fact can't see any point in shipping him off at all given that he might come right and improve our team immeasurably.
I would rather trade Walks than Kreuzer if one of them had to go. I am just of the opinion that offering Walker wouldn't get the deal done. Hoping the club are better negotiators than me!
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That's different. I took your win-win comment as you thought losing Kreuz would be felt less than Walker.
I don't agree with this. If Boyd is out of contract and is prepared to tell GWS that its either Carlton or the draft the bargaining power GWS has now is considerably diminished. We also have another year to tweak and assess our list and may be in a better position to offer someone who would suit GWS and not hurt us as much as losing some of the names mentioned here.
As long as our offer was reasonable GWS (and I think it should be) they would have little alternative but to take our best offer or lose him for nothing.
Of course I have no idea whether Boyd would take the risk in the draft or even be as adamant about us as his future club.
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