Fyfe and Danger are both in the top 10 players in the comp. Beams and Rockliff are not even close.
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Fyfe and Danger are both in the top 10 players in the comp. Beams and Rockliff are not even close.
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What special list is this? Dangerfield I'd agree about being in the top 10, but Fyfe would be lucky to even be in the top 20, let alone top 10.
Fyfe is leading the AFLCA award despite missing two games. Thats one list for you.
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Beams more damaging than Dangerfield...
Fyfe not in the best 20 players in the comp... WTF
Fyfe not in the best 20 players in the comp... WTF
Beams and Rockliff have arguably had better years than Dangerfield has.
I don't really think there is much difference between Fyfe, Dangerfield, Beams and Rockliff.
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Rockliff.
I personally think Beams is overrated, but it may be skewed because he never really hurts Hawthorn.
I would have Beams in the top 30 players in the league, where as Rockliff is in the top 15.
I personally think Beams is overrated, but it may be skewed because he never really hurts Hawthorn.
I would have Beams in the top 30 players in the league, where as Rockliff is in the top 15.
If Rockliff was in Victoria this poll would be 95% to 5%
Beams is an absolute star and could potentially be in the top few in the comp
But I seriously think rockliff is something else. I can see him being the best in the comp in a few years and is certainly the most underrated
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But I seriously think rockliff is something else. I can see him being the best in the comp in a few years and is certainly the most underrated
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you obviously haven't seen beams play much...... He is the complete opposite of an 'accumulator'
I dunno mate. Just because Hawthorn always beat Collingwood doesn't mean Beams hasn't hurt us. I remember being at a game in 2012 when Beams absolutely tore up - getting heaps of the ball (just checked - 34 disp, 6 tackles), using it damagingly and kicking 4 goals. He was brilliant that day IMO and close to BOG despite Collingwood being well beaten (to the tune of 47 points). I know Collingwood mids always rack up the disposals against us for little hurt factor (Swan especially) but I think Beams has usually put his to good use (just his teammates can't finish the job). If you take out his 2 disposal effort in the Prelim, he has averaged 27 disposals against the Hawks.
Definately a quality player - though your top 30 rating suggests you agree (I personally would have him top 20).
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Rocky's having a good season, same with Beams. I'd probably rather beams though, had a quick look at the stats, Beams has been pretty consistent, 7 games with 30+ and has kicked 21. Rockcliff finds the ball more bit beams is more damaging
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If that is the game I think I remember, I actually thought Beams wasn't that great. It lead me to think he was overrated for a while. He kept getting the ball and slamming it on his boot, but it would go straight to a Hawk who would spear it straight back over his head and a scoring chain would happen.
Statistically he may have got a lot of ball against the Hawks but I'd say there was a definite lack of hurt there. (I do note that Hawthorn have done this to a lot of teams in the last few years though)
I think you will find Rockliff kicks at least 20 goals a season in a top 8 team. Beams has had the luxury for all of his career.
I'd probably have had Beams ahead of Rocky at the start of the year, now after the amazing season Rocky has had, I am pretty happy saying Rocky has jumped just ahead now. The fact he is a Brisbane player who is in the bottom 4 on the ladder and is in 85% of peoples all australian team speaks volumes of how greater season he is having.
I'd probably have had Beams ahead of Rocky at the start of the year, now after the amazing season Rocky has had, I am pretty happy saying Rocky has jumped just ahead now. The fact he is a Brisbane player who is in the bottom 4 on the ladder and is in 85% of peoples all australian team speaks volumes of how greater season he is having.
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Beams is still getting back to his 2012 best after his quad injury last year IMO. Hasn't shown that same consistent domination as 2nd half of 2012 since. When he does though, which I think he will next year, look out.
I agree with this, both are what their teams need. This is the one time I couldn't vote as both are very, very good.
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You've done well to figure out what I meant. Bit of a brain fade by myself in that post.
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Rockcliff by a mile.
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Rockliff is a better pure mid. Beams is kore damaging near the goals.
Rockliff prpbably just. But as for people bringing Dangerfield up.. please, that f*cking guy is so overrated.
Rockliff prpbably just. But as for people bringing Dangerfield up.. please, that f*cking guy is so overrated.
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as oppose to Beams?
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Beams.
Why not both?
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