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Hi all,

So I've put in my application for the graduate teachers pool next year to teach PE and science. Finished my Dip Ed 5 years ago, have done a handful of relief teaching and have been working in other fields, and feel its time for a career change. Plus I want to do more sport coaching and teaching will let me transition into this more.

What are my chances of landing a job next year you reckon? Im in WA.
 
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BIRDBRAIN said:
Ahh teachers, little wonder we pay them so poorly when they don't know the difference between the word 'intensive' and 'incentive'.
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I've had professors teaching high-level university physiology and anatomy be unable to spell simple words. I can guarantee these people are much smarter than your average retail manager.

Some people just can't spell.
 
$100,000+ is not poorly paid for WA level 3's for 40 wks work/year.
Teachers are nothing like as poorly paid as they were.
Retail managers are myopic pedants.:oops::oops:
 
scon said:
$100,000+ is not poorly paid for WA level 3's for 40 wks work/year.
Teachers are nothing like as poorly paid as they were.
Retail managers are myopic pedants.:oops::oops:
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Do you honestly believe a teacher only works 40 weeks a year?

last holidays (term used loosely) I had a 4 day Ann Baker Maths conference and then planning and a 2 day child protection workshop to attend during the 14 day non attendance period.
 
Was the PD compulsory??Did all teachers have to attend?
The simple facts are that equitable workload is an issue in the profession.Level 3 Home Ec,Phys Ed,Industrial Design,Media etc have a less demanding workload than English with TEE.Then there is the issue of the individual teacher's attitude and approach.
Plenty of teachers work 40 wks.
My point however was responding to the poster who said it was no wonder teachers were poorly paid.
 
scon said:
Was the PD compulsory??Did all teachers have to attend?
The simple facts are that equitable workload is an issue in the profession.Level 3 Home Ec,Phys Ed,Industrial Design,Media etc have a less demanding workload than English with TEE.Then there is the issue of the individual teacher's attitude and approach.
Plenty of teachers work 40 wks.
My point however was responding to the poster who said it was no wonder teachers were poorly paid.
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yes, every teacher (in our school cluster) was required to attend.

But, without getting into an argument with you - it's very naive to say a teacher simply works 40 weeks a year.

But I do agree that some areas do more and some do less but that applies to every job in society.
 
scon said:
$100,000+ is not poorly paid for WA level 3's for 40 wks work/year.
Teachers are nothing like as poorly paid as they were.
Retail managers are myopic pedants.:oops::oops:
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Um mate you're kidding if you think its 40 weeks work a year.

Like the previous poster, I spent days doing Individual Learning Plans, preparing for my Performance Review and also planning activities. I reckon I only had 5 days relaxing.


And yes professional development is compulsory for all staff
 
CrazyDon said:
Um mate you're kidding if you think its 40 weeks work a year.

Like the previous poster, I spent days doing Individual Learning Plans, preparing for my Performance Review and also planning activities. I reckon I only had 5 days relaxing.


And yes professional development is compulsory for all staff
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Off topic but they are just bullshit.
 

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I'm not going to argue either,except to say I am neither naive nor kidding myself.
PD requirements vary state to state and change with governments.
Prep time varies with experience,organisation,skill,subject,administrative requirements etc etc.
I will stick to my original statements.
 
I'm planning to move into teaching and in doing so Ill be taking a $20k pay cut. But it will be a hell of a lot more intrinsically rewarding than the mindless s**t I do now. Instead of working my arse of to fill the pockets of bosses Ill be actually making a contribution to the world. That's enough for me.
 
I am close to completing the 4 year course. Will only be 21 once finished. Was wondering if anyone knew any additional uni course that i could apply for that i would have credits for?
 
I honestly wish anyone who peruses teaching all the best, i graduated with highest honors from university, but that means nothing, well as far as my experience will tell you. Bitter yes I am, finding a job in Western Australia has been brutal, it is a great job and if you want to pursue it, go for it, everyone's journey in the industry is different, half the people i graduated with have quit due to lack of work opportunites, the other half have had steady work, so really its the luck of the draw
 
TyroneVickery29 said:
Sorry, should have specified that I am doing physical education teaching. So once you finish the course you are able to teach in both
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Oh interesting. I did a Dip Ed in PE and science but can only teach full time in high school. But Ive done relief in primary. If you specialised in PE then you'd likely have credits to do a sports science degree and branch off into some specialised area like exercise phys, biomechanics, health promotion, OT.

Perhaps even coaching post grad. Deakin does a Master of Sport coaching that can be done online.

If I was going to do further study and was in your position I would smash out a sports science degree in a specialised area that your passionate about and get really into it. Especially considering your so young. My biggest regret was turning down an opportunity to do a masters in motor control and development. A couple of guys in my course took up the offer, a few years later and I see one of them walking the boundary during a test at the WACA, and the other guy putting up photos on facebook sitting in an Eagles coaching box tracking GPS readings from players. :oops:
 
Willsy82 said:
I honestly wish anyone who peruses teaching all the best, i graduated with highest honors from university, but that means nothing, well as far as my experience will tell you. Bitter yes I am, finding a job in Western Australia has been brutal, it is a great job and if you want to pursue it, go for it, everyone's journey in the industry is different, half the people i graduated with have quit due to lack of work opportunites, the other half have had steady work, so really its the luck of the draw
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Hey mate

I share your pain. Graduated from a Dip Ed a few years ago as a mature age student and couldn't afford to wait around to see if a teaching job came up (chances were next to none) so had to get work doing other things. Complete joke cos there was so much talk of teacher shortages which led me into it. Since then I have put in placement requests and applications every year but apart from a couple of offers in complete woop woop (Fitzroy Crossing) I've had nothing. Lucky I didn't take them either cos you cant get permanency from doing rural work anymore apparently.

Just put in my application for the graduate pool for next year today. Fingers crossed. Apparently there's a shortage next year - heard that before but. I was even reading an article in the paper a few weeks ago saying that the shortage was going to be so bad they were going to offer quick 6 week bridging courses for law and other grads to fill the gap.

Oh, as for the TRBWA. Complete, utter bunch of monkeys.
 
Hudu Gurusingha said:
Oh interesting. I did a Dip Ed in PE and science but can only teach full time in high school. But Ive done relief in primary. If you specialised in PE then you'd likely have credits to do a sports science degree and branch off into some specialised area like exercise phys, biomechanics, health promotion, OT.

Perhaps even coaching post grad. Deakin does a Master of Sport coaching that can be done online.

If I was going to do further study and was in your position I would smash out a sports science degree in a specialised area that your passionate about and get really into it. Especially considering your so young. My biggest regret was turning down an opportunity to do a masters in motor control and development. A couple of guys in my course took up the offer, a few years later and I see one of them walking the boundary during a test at the WACA, and the other guy putting up photos on facebook sitting in an Eagles coaching box tracking GPS readings from players. :oops:
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Gee all very interesting. My old man said a similar thing about taking my opportunities. I really want to try get into physiotherapy
 
There are so many people studying phys ed/human movement in Victoria in the hope of scoring a pe teaching gig, but the jobs are just not there. Look how many jobs are up on recruitment online for a pe position. Less than 10.

For anyone studying phys ed at uni looking at getting into teaching, make sure your second teaching method is something like maths.

There was a pe job going at a new school in Torquay a couple of months ago, it had over 250 people applying for it.

You need to get your foot in the door at a school with a teaching method such as maths. Once you're in the school, a pe teaching load will open up for you over time.
 
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