No Oppo Supporters CAS hands down guilty verdict - Players appealing - Dank shot - no opposition - (cont in pt.2)

[84859300]

She has a point. There is now a massive precedence set here by ASADA.

And here was Middleton worrying about setting precedents for the better drug control for the overseeing body.

Looks like he doesn't have to keep that feather in his cap, when handing down his findings.

 

[scottmclaren]

Does anyone know what is actually happening with Cronulla. Do they enter on Register of Findings, assemble ADVR, issue infraction notices, NRL issue bans etc.

 

[cymarak]

Ahmed Saad will be an even bigger fan of ASADA after this I expect.

 

[Mercurial89]

The olympians have been crying foul of this since the whole thing started, i remember quite a number of them having a go at Corcoran as well becuase they had a beef with him.
Honestly they just come off as petulent children, but hey its the age of Twitter where you can say whatever you want, doesnt matter that we havnt had any proof shown that players received banned substances. Im sure they would be oh so confident in passing comment if say i dunno a rumor started that there was drugs being taken by the swim team.

Does anyone know what is actually happening with Cronulla. Do they enter on Register of Findings, assemble ADVR, issue infraction notices, NRL issue bans etc.

Its still murky as to what is going on, as this type of deal didnt appear possible 12 months ago. Whether it is allowed or there is something going on behind the scenes will probably play out over the next few weeks.

 

[Tassieboy]

She has a point. There is now a massive precedence set here by ASADA.

Exactly. How pissed would you be if you were someone like Saad getting 18 months for drinking an energy drink on the wrong day. Here we have 17 players 'admitting' (yeah, we know why) taking banned substances getting a nice refresher for next season. Comedy.

 

[rumply]

THE SHARKS 'OFFER' - ANOTHER SET BACK FOR ANTI DOPING'S CREDIBILITY IN AUSTRALIA
http://communities.deakin.edu.au/deakin-speaking/node/659

Current and former Cronulla Sutherland players have reluctantly decided to a put an end to their involvement in the ASADA case. They have done so after being placed in an untenable and unfair position by ASADA this week.

Firstly, all the players maintain that they have done nothing wrong and have not broken any anti-doping rules.

Secondly, according to the Full Federal Court the show cause notices issued by ASADA are no more than mere assertions of a possibility of a violation. There is simply not enough evidence upon which ASADSA could prove its case at a final hearing before the NRL or the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

The NRL has stated privately that ASADA does not have enough evidence to win a case against the players.

Thirdly, It must also must be considered in the context of the case brought about by Essendon against ASADA. That case has challenged the lawfulness of the AFL investigators sitting in on ASADA interviews. If the Federal Court finds in favour of this aspect of the Essendon case the principle will apply to the situation where the NRL sat in on the ASADA interviews resulting also in the case brought against the players being invalid and unlawful.

The ‘offer’ put on the table by ASADA this week must be considered in that context.

To put it at its lowest ASADA has acted unfairly in proceeding to try and extract a result before that case is determined.

The players have been put in an untenable position – to agree within 72 hours to accept the ‘offer’ or continue on with a long and lengthy legal battle which neither are equipped to afford.

Furthermore, they fear that if they stood their ground and fought that the NRL may stand them down from playing for the duration of their legal battle.

It is on this basis that the players have decided to put an end to this process now. As a result they will not be playing until 22 November 2104.

Actions like this by ASADA only serve to further undermine the public’s faith in the anti-doping system.

We can only hope that the Federal Government properly reviews the operations of ASADA to restore faith in the anti-doping system and to create some semblance of fairness for athletes.

 

[Zach Package]

The olympians have been crying foul of this since the whole thing started, i remember quite a number of them having a go at Corcoran as well becuase they had a beef with him.
Honestly they just come off as petulent children, but hey its the age of Twitter where you can say whatever you want, doesnt matter that we havnt had any proof shown that players received banned substances.

Lead by Dave Culbert, who's official title is apparently 'king campaigner'

 

[Eleven 38]

Melanie SchlangerVerified account‏@Mel_Schlanger
A backdated 12 month ban for taking a banned substance?! Players to miss only a few games?! I feel sad for sport today. #asada #precedent

Mel Schlanger can get ****ed. She's not even involved in sport, she's a swimmer that's an exercise not a sport..

 

[scottmclaren]

Caro will say it's because of Hird holding a gun to ASADA's head

 

[Pweter]

The olympians have been crying foul of this since the whole thing started, i remember quite a number of them having a go at Corcoran as well becuase they had a beef with him.
Honestly they just come off as petulent children, but hey its the age of Twitter where you can say whatever you want, doesnt matter that we havnt had any proof shown that players received banned substances.

I'm not disagreeing, but the point made in Schlanger's tweet was more than throwing the baby out with the bath water. From the outside it looks like there's been a precedence set. ASADA will want to be bloody careful about the circumstances used to reach such a precedence.

I much prefer our way of doing it. Fight. It's a shame for the Cronulla players that their club is not financially resourced to the extent they can go in to bat for them.

 

[bomberman500]

Caro will say it's because of Hird holding a gun to ASADA's head

Yeah,
Forget Mcdoughnut, Ings, Amnesia, Middleton, Dank, Gallen and whoever elses name has come up in the last week.
I think we are all getting away from the point that its Hirds fault

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Caro will say it's because of Hird holding a gun to ASADA's head

"Just not a good lookth and will some one think of the children"

 

[yaco55]

Nothing will happen before the Federal Court decision. We must remember that its ultimately a decision for the players - What we think is irrelevant - Whatever happens the players have my full support.

 

[SizzleChest]

She has a point. There is now a massive precedence set here by ASADA.

I wonder if in the event the AFL used clause (A) in 14.7 of the AFL NAD code, 'Delays Not Attributable to the Athlete or other Person', whether an appeal might be a bit prickly for ASADA/WADA to mount. 14.7a is a very generous clause that was updated in March and allows the AFL to backdate the ineligibility period to when the last doping violation took place. No admission of guilt is required either.

 

[efcboy]

Mealy mouthed statement yet again from ASADA - they didnt make an offer 'linked to Fed Court decision' but they previously did make such an offer.

But it does confirm Roy Masters was making stuff up again as per usual

Does Ben McDevitt have a twin? Could have sworn he did a media road show speaking of these very such deals. What a bunch of disgraceful, incompetent liars.

 

[Tassieboy]

Does Ben McDevitt have a twin? Could have sworn he did a media road show speaking of these very such deals. What a bunch of disgraceful, incompetent liars.

Although they never said there was no deal on the table.

 

[efcboy]

I bet you Caroline Wilson didn't do the bucket challenge the ******* weak spined slag

People normally nominate a friend, I don't think she's got any so probably wouldn't get nominated unless she nominated herself..

 

[carnthedons]

Does Ben McDevitt have a twin? Could have sworn he did a media road show speaking of these very such deals. What a bunch of disgraceful, incompetent liars.

 

[cymarak]

Although they never said there was no deal on the table.

Yep, the statement today just said there was no fresh deal linked to the Federal Court decision timing.

 

[Kyptastic]

Rompingwins?

 

[efcboy]

Yep, the statement today just said there was no fresh deal linked to the Federal Court decision timing.

Kind of like ASADA stating that AOD9604 would not be prosecuted for use prior to April 2013...but on the other hand earlier stating that AOD9604 was prohibited...despite giving advice (some published in ACC report) that it was not prohibited...useless clowns...

 

[astrowizzle]

Ahmed Saad will be an even bigger fan of ASADA after this I expect.

his name has an anagram of ASADA in it. he was screwed from the start

 

[Runk]

People normally nominate a friend, I don't think she's got any so probably wouldn't get nominated unless she nominated herself..

Malthouse nominated her. If Mick says you're his friend you better believe you're his friend whether you like it or not.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

She has a point. There is now a massive precedence set here by ASADA.

there is no precedence set whatsoever

 

[Ben the Gooner]

ASADA: "Here's an offer to end this all and to wrap it all up now, please just accept it so we can make this go away."
Essendon: "Why would we do that?"
ASADA: "We said please?"

Lies.

Those slimy campaigners wouldn't talk directly to us.