Yep, They uploaded it recently on the Richmond website, so I guess its in their video archive page.
Interestnigly they didn't upload the entire 5-6 mins, only an edited part.
The unedited part includes a brief shot of Len Smith as coach.
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Yep, They uploaded it recently on the Richmond website, so I guess its in their video archive page.
Interestnigly they didn't upload the entire 5-6 mins, only an edited part.
The unedited part includes a brief shot of Len Smith as coach.
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Where records are available, most collective goals in a match before a behind was scored?
We had 7 goals tonight before the first behind was scored.
Last time 12 goals kicked in any quarter in the finals?
Last time 12 goals kicked in the 1st quarter in the finals?
We had 7 goals tonight before the first behind was scored.
Last time 12 goals kicked in any quarter in the finals?
Last time 12 goals kicked in the 1st quarter in the finals?
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In round 16, 1981, the first quarter saw St. Kilda score 9 straight goals versus South Melbourne, who scored 3 straight goals. St. Kilda then kicked the next goal in the second quarter to go 42 points up, a lead they eventually surrendered. So there are at least 13 straight goals to begin with.
Hey guys, I asked this a few weeks ago but did not get a response, so I thought I would try again. I realise the question is perhaps slightly different to the usual sort of inquiry in this thread, but could not think of a more appropriate place to ask it, so here goes:
In a scenario when a player kicks out after a behind, without first kicking to himself and playing on, and a player on either side catches that kick, it is my understanding that the player who catches the kick is paid a mark.
However, if the player who kicks out does not record a kick stat for doing so, and a mark can only be taken from a kick, then how can a player who catches a ball that is kicked in after a behind be recorded with a mark? The player is not marking a kick because the kick-in kick is not counted as a possession - so what is the player marking?
Thanks!
In a scenario when a player kicks out after a behind, without first kicking to himself and playing on, and a player on either side catches that kick, it is my understanding that the player who catches the kick is paid a mark.
However, if the player who kicks out does not record a kick stat for doing so, and a mark can only be taken from a kick, then how can a player who catches a ball that is kicked in after a behind be recorded with a mark? The player is not marking a kick because the kick-in kick is not counted as a possession - so what is the player marking?
Thanks!
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Surrendered a 7 goal lead and then some! They lost by 51 points! Clearly a windy day that day.
Well, so we have 2014....where Red and Black i think highlighted that Geelong uniquely have been the only side to straight set from 17-5.
And we have the first double 'straight-sets' exit since 1983 with Freo and Geelong going 0/4 from their two finals each.
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What I said was:
"The last 17-5 side to go out in straight sets was Geelong in 1980. Now it's Geelong 2014."
I think the simplistic answer is, the player is marking from a kick. Hence it is a mark.
The fact that the initial kick isn't counted as a stat is irrelevant, as that stat hasn't been in existence since the introduction of the marking rule.
A rule and a stat are two different aspects.
Last time 12 goals (or more) kicked in any quarter in the finals:-
2008 2nd Elimination Final (3rd qtr.) Sydney 8.1 vs. North Melbourne 4.1 (12 goals).
Last time 12 goals (or more) kicked in the 1st quarter in the finals:-
2005 1st Elimination Final North Melbourne 6.6 vs. Port Adelaide 6.1 (12 goals).
All time records:-
Any quarter - 15 goals
1946 GF Essendon 7.2 vs. Melbourne 8.3 (1st qtr.)
1972 GF Carlton 10.2 vs. Richmond 5.5 (2nd qtr.)
1973 1EF St Kilda 10.1 vs. Essendon 5.5 (4th qtr.)
3rd quarter - 14 goals
1982 2QF Carlton 11.4 vs. Hawthorn 3.3
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Tough one.. Average age of each list excluding players who played 5 games or less this year?
Club - Average Age - No. of Players
Adel 24.23 31
Bris 23.27 30
Carl 25.43 30
Coll 24.32 28
Ess 25.26 27
Frem 25.83 29
Geel 25.31 29
GC 22.52 29
GWS 22.09 33
Haw 25.57 30
Melb 24.39 28
NM 25.39 28
PA 24.07 27
Rich 24.42 31
StK 24.50 32
Syd 25.74 27
WC 25.00 29
WB 24.57 28
AFL 24.52 526
6 games or more played in 2014 - games played include finals week 2. Rookie List players are included. Average age at 14 September.
The kick-in is recorded as a kick, of a type that is not counted in the 'kicks' total. There are other kicks that it is arguable should also be discounted, such as from boundary kick-ins, free kicks due to third parties (e.g. officials in the wrong place), kicks from someone who has just kicked-in to himself, and even some advantage free kicks where the ball fell to the player (that last one is a slippery slope!)
It's really an historical reason why it doesn't count: it used to be that the full back took virtually all the kick-ins, but when the stats collectors tallied the kicks it looked like he was doing a lot more work than his team-mates and that distortive effect was rejected by footy people very early on. Other 'unearned' kicks are more random so we haven't cared so much.
If North win the Premiership and Boomer Harvey plays he will have won two premierships across three decades. How many others have done this?
I know Tuck won premierships in the 70s, 80s and 90s.
Also, would it be the longest gap between premierships?
I know Tuck won premierships in the 70s, 80s and 90s.
Also, would it be the longest gap between premierships?
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Tuck was 1976 and 1991 so Boomer would equal that, except that North won't be winning the premiership.
Even if they did, maybe Boomer gets 2 weeks LOL.
And Bartlett won in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Not sure if there are others.
Even if they did, maybe Boomer gets 2 weeks LOL.
And Bartlett won in the 60s, 70s and 80s. Not sure if there are others.
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I can find only Francis Bourke (who would be in the same bracket as Bartlett) as the other player who has played in premierships across three separate decades.
Another Richmond legend, Jack Titus, played in losing grand finals across three decades (two each in the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s).
Another Richmond legend, Jack Titus, played in losing grand finals across three decades (two each in the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s).
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Apologies if this has been done before...
Hawthorn's highest average score over a season (including finals) is 126.5 in 1982. They very nearly topped it in 1988 and 1991.
What are the top 20-odd average scores in a season (incl finals) across all sides, and what are the best for each club?
ie. Team / Year / Ave
Hawthorn's highest average score over a season (including finals) is 126.5 in 1982. They very nearly topped it in 1988 and 1991.
What are the top 20-odd average scores in a season (incl finals) across all sides, and what are the best for each club?
ie. Team / Year / Ave
Top 20
Geelong 1992 136.8
Geelong 1989 132.8
Essendon 2000 131.0
North Melbourne 1993 127.0
Hawthorn 1982 126.5
Essendon 1985 126.1
Hawthorn 1991 126.0
Hawthorn 1988 125.4
Richmond 1980 125.0
Sydney (South Melb.) 1987 124.0
Carlton 1979 123.5
North Melbourne 1982 122.3
Hawthorn 1989 122.3
Hawthorn 1984 121.6
Fitzroy 1979 121.5
North Melbourne 1983 121.5
Hawthorn 1987 121.3
Hawthorn 1983 121.2
Hawthorn 1986 120.1
Richmond 1982 120.0
Club Records
Adelaide 1993 106.3
Brisbane 2000 115.9
Carlton 1979 123.5
Collingwood 1977 114.9
Essendon 2000 131.0
Fitzroy 1979 121.5
Fremantle 2007 102.5
Geelong 1992 136.8
Gold Coast 2013 87.2
Greater Western Sydney 2014 80.9
Hawthorn 1982 126.5
Melbourne 2000 115.4
North Melbourne 1993 127.0
Port Adelaide 2004 109.5
Richmond 1980 125.0
St Kilda 1991 113.4
Sydney (South Melb.) 1987 124.0
University 1908 57.3
West Coast 1991 110.3
Western Bulldogs (Foots.) 2008 109.7
Apologies for the usual lousy formatting! I've been promising myself for a while I'll learn how to put these things in boxes so they are a bit easier to read.
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Lyon H&A & finals for and against, and average scores for non-Lyon games
\2007|85.18|88.23|-|-|96.50|91.28
\2008|96.64|87.41|77.00|103.00|98.24|93.19
\2009|99.86|64.14|69.33|61.67|92.37|90.24
\2010|87.95|72.32|72.75|79.75|91.54|88.46
\2011|85.95|76.23|57.00|82.00|94.11|91.26
\2012|88.91|76.86|83.50|80.50|92.93|87.67
\2013|92.50|69.00|82.67|74.33|93.87|85.83
\2014|92.23|70.73|76.00|99.00|86.88|92.28
\All|91.15|75.61|75.22|82.06|93.21|90.03
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Cheers Ron.
What I love about it is Ross Lyon can't bring himself to coach a premiership winning side.
2009 was his best chance.
Didn't factor in the Scarlett toepoke which was good.
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Lol. Can't coach a premiership winning side but was a toepoke or a bounce of a ball away from it.
The reality is that he gets average teams to grand finals. It's then up to the players to play out of their skins to win it. You rarely get an easy grand final opponent (2007 the only recent exception) and there is no doubt in my mind that he has consistenly had the less skilled team there.
I guess you think he doesn't develop youth either.
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Today my mate made what I thought was a ridiculous and amusing comment while I was at the VFL Grand Final.
"We are kicking to the scoring end"
As I looked to him, then up to the closed roof, I couldn't help but laugh.
But he is adamant that the Lockett end of Etihad Stadium is the scoring end.
Is there any way to prove this? I'm guessing this place would know, if anyone.
"We are kicking to the scoring end"
As I looked to him, then up to the closed roof, I couldn't help but laugh.
But he is adamant that the Lockett end of Etihad Stadium is the scoring end.
Is there any way to prove this? I'm guessing this place would know, if anyone.
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Need to have a record of direction of play with match scores. Not sure if that is kept anywhere.
