No Oppo Supporters CAS hands down guilty verdict - Players appealing - Dank shot - no opposition - (cont in pt.2)

[cymarak]

There is merit to use these drugs to help athletes get back to what they are capable of. Performance enabling if you will.

It becomes a hard concept to precisely define, and can spur a load of questions / issues / arguments that have to be contended with:

• Is an athlete really 'capable' of a certain performance level if they need drugs to get there ? If it's just a matter of getting there quicker with the drugs than they would without the drugs, how is that better than, say, putting on muscle quicker with drugs than they would without drugs ?
• Is a drug that enables a 35 year old to perform at the same level they did when they were 30 years old 'performance-enabling' or 'doping' ?
• etc.

The bottom line is that whether it's painkilling injections, roids, HGH, cocaine or whatever, you're using something artificially constructed to raise your performance level higher than it would be without it. Sports ban certain substances and permit others, and the exact reasoning behind the distinctions isn't that clear.

 

[cymarak]

Whilst I agree with that, the counter argument is that the athlete with the best medical/chemical team wins.

Would you rather see a team with the best altitude training location win ? Or the team with the best nutritionists win ? Or the team with the best sports psychologists win ? Or he team with the best doctors win ? The best gym ? etc.

 

[baz_machine]

Well i wouldn't want to be exposed for making behind the scene deals either

 

[baz_machine]

Would you rather see a team with the best altitude training location win ? Or the team with the best nutritionists win ? Or the team with the best sports psychologists win ? Or he team with the best doctors win ? The best gym ? etc.

are you suggesting that already doesn't happen?

 

[TheFrenchCut]

Well i wouldn't want to be exposed for making behind the scene deals either

He isn't exposed already?

 

[cymarak]

are you suggesting that already doesn't happen?

It's a combination of factors - clubs wouldn't spend money on that stuff unless they believed it gave them an advantage (or in many cases, prevented another club from having an advantage by being the only club using that 'technique').

It's partially due to there being a salary cap for players - clubs have switched to trying to get an edge by spending money in other areas.

 

[Doss]

Some of the s**t that is used can kill you. Flo-Jo etc etc.

The stories of cyclists on EPO having to get up in the middle of the night to do a bike session to prevent their hearts from stopping are genuinely chilling. No question.

 

[rumply]

Really is hard to imagine what is in these peoples heads at times

 

[Alfred E Neuman]

The stories of cyclists on EPO having to get up in the middle of the night to do a bike session to prevent their hearts from stopping are genuinely chilling. No question.

 

[rumply]

1 hour to go, yippy ki-yay mother*ers!

 

[Alfred E Neuman]

C'mon J Mizzy, end this farce.

 

[table tennis]

What end of the court room are the cheersquad sitting?

#*asada

 

[yodellinhank]

Some of the s**t that is used can kill you. Flo-Jo etc etc.

There is no question, that stuff should be banned.

Banned on match day only energy drinks on the other hand...

 

[DonsRule]

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-09-19/watch-it-live-federal-court-decision


EFC Streaming it live.

 

[BomberFan355]

Can't wait for Cerberus to start tweeting.

 

[rumply]

Danny WeidlerVerified account‏@Danny_Weidler
Hearing that Stephen Dank will turn up at Essendon v ASADA court verdict.

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@Danny_Weidler @TheSameOlds. Do you think Sarah will be there too ?


errrr...

 

[EnolaGay]

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-09-19/watch-it-live-federal-court-decision


EFC Streaming it live.

*, I hope that's a positive sign that EFC are streaming it.

 

[GandalfTheDon]

*, I hope that's a positive sign that EFC are streaming it.

Well they can't already know the verdict either way

 

[Walesy]

Whilst I agree with that, the counter argument is that the athlete with the best medical/chemical team wins. Not sure I want to see sport go down that road.

As opposed to the athlete with the best facilities / support team which it currently is?

 

[Mercurial89]

http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/2014-09-19/watch-it-live-federal-court-decision


EFC Streaming it live.

I find this odd.......

 

[Alfred E Neuman]

I find this odd.......

very!

 

[HurlsMeister18]

is it on TV and if so what channel.

 

[rumply]

I find this odd.......

Almost as if....nah, wont go there...

 

[EnolaGay]

Well they can't already know the verdict either way

Not explicitly at least, but they may be aware of the gist....

Regardless, ballsy (or naive) to be streaming it if it goes totally against you?

 

[rumply]

is it on TV and if so what channel.

havent seen which channels advertised anywhere but last time was abcnews24 & fox648