Time Capsule 2014

[BIG_BONTS]

Western Bulldogs
Games won: 10
Final ladder position: 12th
Charles Sutton Medal (B&F) top three, in order: Libba, Griffen, Minson
Most Brownlow Votes/How Many: Libba (19)
Leading Goalkicker / Goals scored: Crameri (32)
Most Improved: Jackson Macrae
Most Courageous: Mitch Wallis
Best First Year Player: Marcus Bontempelli
Rising Star Nominations (how many and who): Three - Hunter, Stringer, Hrovat
Most Kicks: Griffen
Most Handballs: Libba
Most Marks: Higgins
Most Tackles: Libba
Most Goal Assists: Hunter
How many AFL games will Prudden play? 4
Final membership tally: 32,294
Will Footscray make the VFL finals? Yes
Footscray (VFL) B&F: Prismall
Footscray Leading Goalkicker: Liam Jones

AFL:
Premiers: Sydney
Runners Up: Geelong
Wooden Spoon: St Kilda
Brownlow: Ablett
Coleman Medal / how many: Franklin 60
RS Winner: Nathan Hrovat
Top 8 side (2013) to record biggest drop: Port Adelaide
Bottom 8 side to record biggest rise: West Coast Eagles
Biggest shitstorm for 2014: Nothing Happens

A few things right, a few things wrong.

 

[BRG93]

Western Bulldogs
Games won: 8 7
Final ladder position: 14th
Charles Sutton Medal (B&F) top three, in order: Libba, Griffen, Stevens. Liberatore, Macrae and Griffen
Most Brownlow Votes/How Many: Libba (20) Jackson Macrae (10)
Leading Goalkicker / Goals scored: Crameri (32) (37)
Most Improved: Jackson Macrae
Most Courageous: Mitch Wallis Tom Liberatore
Best First Year Player: Marcus Bontempelli
Rising Star Nominations (how many and who): Three - Hunter, Stringer, Hrovat
Most Kicks: Griffen Jackson Macrae
Most Handballs: Libba
Most Marks: Roughead Jackson Macrae
Most Tackles: Libba
Most Goal Assists: Hunter
How many AFL games will Prudden play? 10+ 0
Final membership tally: 31,254 31,725
Will Footscray make the VFL finals? Yes
Footscray (VFL) B&F: Jordan Russell Brett Goodes
Footscray Leading Goalkicker: Liam Jones Jack Redpath

AFL:
Premiers: Fremantle Hawthorn
Runners Up: Geelong Sydney
Wooden Spoon: St Kilda
Brownlow: Libba Matthew Priddis
Coleman Medal / how many: Mark LeCras 60 Lance Franklin (79)
RS Winner: Nathan Hrovat Lewy Taylor (BRIS)
Top 8 side (2013) to record biggest drop: Port Adelaide Collingwood
Bottom 8 side to record biggest rise: West Coast Eagles North Melbourne
Biggest shitstorm for 2014: Nothing Happens ??

 

[Bont2Bruce]

Western Bulldogs:
Games won: 11
Final ladder position: 9th
Charles Sutton Medal (B&F) top three, in order: Libba, Cooney, Griffen
Most Brownlow Votes/How Many: Libba (21)
Leading Goalkicker / Goals scored: Crameri (30)
Most Improved: Talia
Most Courageous: Smith
Best First Year Player: Fuller
Rising Star Nominations (how many and who): One - Hunter
Most Kicks: Stevens
Most Handballs: Libba
Most Marks: Campbell
Most Tackles: Libba
Most Goal Assists: Dahlhaus
How many AFL games will Prudden play? Zero
Final membership tally: 31,111
Will Footscray make the VFL finals? Yes
Footscray (VFL) B&F: N. Lower
Footscray Leading Goalkicker: Jones

AFL:
Premiers: Fremantle
Runners Up: Hawthorn
Wooden Spoon: St Kilda
Brownlow: Libba
Coleman Medal / how many: Gunston 51
RS Winner: Josh Kelly
Top 8 side (2013) to record biggest drop: Geelong
Bottom 8 side to record biggest rise: Western Bulldogs
Biggest shitstorm for 2014: Ch7 continues to refuse to either put in goal-line technology or broadcast in HD.

I picked some doozies in there, ouch. Fuller the standout wrong call for best 1st year player but Talia for most improved also not a good call.

 

[timtamWB]

Western Bulldogs
Games won: 10
Final ladder position: 10th
Charles Sutton Medal (B&F) top three, in order: Libba, Griffen, Cooney
Most Brownlow Votes/How Many: Libba (37 but really 20)
Leading Goalkicker / Goals scored: Crameri 35 (He kicked 37)
Most Improved: Stevens
Most Courageous: Lin Jong
Best First Year Player: Honeychurch
Rising Star Nominations (how many and who): Two - Hunter, Hrovat
Most Kicks: Cooney
Most Handballs: Libba
Most Marks: Macrae
Most Tackles: Libba
Most Goal Assists: Dahlhaus
How many AFL games will Prudden play? 4
Final membership tally: 32,545 (I got within 100 come on!)
Will Footscray make the VFL finals? No (Idiot)
Footscray (VFL) B&F: Lower
Footscray Leading Goalkicker: Cordy

AFL:
Premiers: Sydney
Runners Up: Hawthorn
Wooden Spoon: St Kilda
Brownlow: Ablett
Coleman Medal / how many: Jarryd Roughead (73)
RS Winner: James Aish
Top 8 side (2103) to record biggest drop: Carlton. If they don't count, then Collingwood
Bottom 8 side to record biggest rise: Adelaide
Biggest shitstorm for 2014: Watson forced to hand back his Brownlow.

So, like the Bulldogs, a lot of bad, but a bit of good

 

[TheHoneyBadger]

Western Bulldogs
Games won: 12 7
Final ladder position: 8th 14th
Charles Sutton Medal (B&F) top three, in order: Libba, Griffen, Stevens Macrae, Griffen
Most Brownlow Votes/How Many: Liberatore 21 Macrae 10
Leading Goalkicker / Goals scored: Crameri 36 Close enough! 37
Most Improved: Stevens Macrae
Most Courageous: Lin Jong Liberatore
Best First Year Player: Bontempelli
Rising Star Nominations (how many and who): Three - Hunter, Stringer, Hrovat Bontempelli
Most Kicks: Griffen Macrae
Most Handballs: Liberatore
Most Marks: Roughead Macrae
Most Tackles: Liberatore
Most Goal Assists: Campbell Liberatore
How many AFL games will Prudden play? 5 0
Final membership tally: 35254 31,725
Will Footscray make the VFL finals? No Premiers
Footscray (VFL) B&F: Prismall Goodes
Footscray Leading Goalkicker: Jones (will play a few AFL games but will go nuts in VFL) Redpath

AFL:
Premiers: Fremantle Hawthorn
Runners Up: Sydney
Wooden Spoon: St Kilda
Brownlow: Cotchin Priddis
Coleman Medal / how many: Jack Riewoldt, 70 Franklin, 67
RS Winner: Jack Martin Lewis Taylor
Top 8 side (2013) to record biggest drop: Geelong (not necessarily out of the 8) Carlton
Bottom 8 side to record biggest rise: Western Bulldogs Norf
Biggest shitstorm for 2014: Eddie makes a racially charged remark because Demetriou finalises his equalisation plan at Collingwood's massive expense Essendon, but happy to get this one wrong.

Hahahahaha.

 

[Easty]

Western Bulldogs
Games won: 10 7
Final ladder position: 10th 14th
Charles Sutton Medal (B&F) top three, in order: Liberatore, Dahlhaus, Griffen Swap Dalh for Macrae, close enough!
Most Brownlow Votes/How Many: Liberatore (19) Macrae (10)
Leading Goalkicker / Goals scored: Dahlhaus (36) Crameri (37)
Most Improved: Stevens Macrae
Most Courageous: Smith Liberatore
Best First Year Player: Bontempelli
Rising Star Nominations (how many and who): Three - Hunter, Stringer, Bontempelli Swap Hunter for Hrovat
Most Kicks: Griffen Macrae
Most Handballs: Liberatore
Most Marks: Roughead Macrae
Most Tackles: Liberatore
Most Goal Assists: Hunter Liberatore
How many AFL games will Prudden play? 3 0
Final membership tally: 34,054 31,725
Will Footscray make the VFL finals? Yes
Footscray (VFL) B&F: Lower Goodes
Footscray Leading Goalkicker: Jones Redpath (feel like giving myself half a mark for predicting that Jones would spend some time in the VFL)

AFL:
Premiers: Fremantle Hawthorn
Runners Up: Hawthorn Sydney
Wooden Spoon: St Kilda
Brownlow: Nathan Fyfe Priddis (half marks for 2nd)
Coleman Medal / how many: Jack Gunston (61) Buddy (67)
RS Winner: Jack Martin Taylor (badly wrong!)
Top 8 side (2103) to record biggest drop: Carlton (if they don't count, Geelong)
Bottom 8 side to record biggest rise: West Coast North
Biggest shitstorm for 2014: The AFL enter serious discussion with St Kilda about relocating them to Tasmania. Don't write this one off just yet...

All in all, I was pretty bad at this

 

[dogwatch]

OK the results have been tabulated, analysed, synthesised, inspected, investigated, turned upside down and regression tested. Scoring: 1 point for every correct answer except the names of the RS nominees (only half a point each) and you also get only half a point for correctly guessing the number of goals/votes but that's ONLY if you guessed the right player to get them. Here's some highlights and lowlights (actual winner details to follow later):


SECTION A - WESTERN BULLDOGS/FOOTSCRAY
Most Wins - Only Walsh Bay got it right. He was also the outlier - nobody picked any fewer wins than he did. At the other end of the scale a few Kool-Aid-sipping, rose-coloured spectacle wearers had us winning 12 games.
Ladder Position - Only BRG93 and Trent85 got this right. The outliers were Walsh Bay (15th) and dogwatch (7th).
WB B&F - Libba was the popular go with 23 out of 32 getting this one right. However only grassman75 got the trifecta. Fossie 32 got the trio (the right 3 but wrong order) - alas no points are awarded for picking a placegetter in the wrong place. Interesting that Stevens was a very popular pick for a B&F place, probably based on his good PS form. He was one of the more notable disappointments judging by these pre-season expectations.
Brownlow Best - most went for Libba (22 of us) and nobody picked Macrae.
Leading Goalscorer - Half of you got this right, but only Buckingham and Trent85 got Crameri AND 37 goals.
Most Improved - Based on his PS form Stevens (13) was the favourite but a lot got Macrae right (9).
Most Courageous - Jong (9) was the clear favourite but only Buckingham got Libba right.
Best First Year Player - in hindsight we look pretty dumb. Sixteen went for our #4 pick Bonty, but there was a fair bit of support for Honeychurch and even Prudden and Fuller!
Rising Star nominees - fourteen correctly said 3, which is well above quota for any team, but VitalDread had as many as five (leaving only 17 nominations to be shared among the other 17 teams!) I was surprised that the the player most expected to get a RS nomination was Hunter, so I'd have to rate him as one of the year's biggest disappointments too. Only 8 went for Bonty as a nominee (and only Mike__ picked Bonty to win it ... you were robbed Mike).
Most Kicks - Griff the overwhelming favourite (24) - only grassman75 got Macrae right.
Most Handballs - Libba (28) was long odds-on and didn't disappoint.
Most Marks - Roughead (12) the favourite but three picked Macrae.
Most Tackles - Libba a justifiable favourite (22) and he won it by a street. I think he just about doubled his nearest teammate.
Most Goal Assists - While we were all thinking Dahlhaus (12) or Crameri (9) VitalDread was the only one to pick Libba. Really, Libba and Macrae just about swept all the WB season awards.
How many games for Prudden? - Five got this right (zero games). Most thought he'd play a handful but there were a few optimistic ones in double figures. The outlier was Sharkey66 who thought he was glory-bound with 14 games, best first year player and a RS nomination. Who knows, without injury maybe he would have starred (and we might still have McCartney as coa... no, we won't go there).
Membership Tally - Nobody got this dead right of course, or even within 100, but nearest-the-pin gets a point. Congrats to Dav1d who picked 31,907 - just 182 over the final tally. The outliers were bones54 (36,549) and at the opposite end stmookeyj (29,539). Amazingly four people guessed that membership would be exactly 31,954 ... spooky!
Footscray - 17 of the 32 correctly picked us making the finals. Nobody picked Goodes for B&F or Redpath for Most Goals. Surprising.

SECTION B - AFL
Premiers - The predictions were shared almost exclusively between Freo (11), Hawthorn (10) and Sydney (9), with the one exception being VitalDread who picked Collingwood (guffaw).
Runners-Up - Most picked Hawthorn (10) but five picked Sydney. Only bones54 , who_let_the_dogs_out and Walsh Bay picked the Premier and Runner-Up correctly.
Spoon - StKilda was overwhelming favourite for the Wooden Spoon (22) and didn't let us down.
Brownlow Medal - there was an even spread with Libba just the most popular (6). None of us picked Priddis at the start of the year, but then nobody picked Priddis even on the day of the count. No shame there!
Coleman Medal - Only three picked Franklin. Roughead was the most popular pick (11).
Rising Star - Like the Brownlow, this was not an expected result before the season started: nobody picked Taylor. Jack Martin (10) was the favourite. A couple picked Hrovat, Fossie 32 picked Macrae (even though he was ineligible) and of course Mike__ picked Bonty.
Biggest drop from the top 8 in 2013 - I awarded this Collingwood (-5 spots) ahead of Carlton who only got there because Essendon were DQ'd. No correspondence will be entered into. It was a pretty popular result: 11 thought Geelong but next was Collingwood (7).
Biggest rise from bottom 8 in 2013 - WCE (11) was the most popular choice and was the correct one. Seven picked the WB.
Biggest shitstorm - A few amusing ones but mostly pretty meh. Several mentioned ASADA and the Dons but I have awarded a point to _M_16_ for "AFL Supplement scandal just drags on, and a few suspensions leave Essendon with list management headaches for 2015" Perhaps hasn't quite come to pass yet but looking more and more likely. Again, no correspondence please.

Final scores to follow! (drum roll ...)

 

[farstrider]

OK the results have been tabulated, analysed, synthesised, inspected, investigated, turned upside down and regression tested. Scoring: 1 point for every correct answer except the names of the RS nominees (only half a point each) and you also get only half a point for correctly guessing the number of goals/votes but that's ONLY if you guessed the right player to get them. Here's some highlights and lowlights (actual winner details to follow later):
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SECTION A - WESTERN BULLDOGS/FOOTSCRAY
Most Wins - Only Walsh Bay got it right. He was also the outlier - nobody picked any fewer wins than he did. At the other end of the scale a few Kool-Aid-sipping, rose-coloured spectacle wearers had us winning 12 games.
Ladder Position - Only BRG93 and Trent85 got this right. The outliers were Walsh Bay (15th) and dogwatch (7th).
WB B&F - Libba was the popular go with 23 out of 32 getting this one right. However only grassman75 got the trifecta. Fossie 32 got the trio (the right 3 but wrong order) - alas no points are awarded for picking a placegetter in the wrong place. Interesting that Stevens was a very popular pick for a B&F place, probably based on his good PS form. He was one of the more notable disappointments judging by these pre-season expectations.
Brownlow Best - most went for Libba (22 of us) and nobody picked Macrae.
Leading Goalscorer - Half of you got this right, but only Buckingham and Trent85 got Crameri AND 37 goals.
Most Improved - Based on his PS form Stevens (13) was the favourite but a lot got Macrae right (9).
Most Courageous - Jong (9) was the clear favourite but only Buckingham got Libba right.
Best First Year Player - in hindsight we look pretty dumb. Sixteen went for our #4 pick Bonty, but there was a fair bit of support for Honeychurch and even Prudden and Fuller!
Rising Star nominees - fourteen correctly said 3, which is well above quota for any team, but VitalDread had as many as five (leaving only 17 nominations to be shared among the other 17 teams!) I was surprised that the the player most expected to get a RS nomination was Hunter, so I'd have to rate him as one of the year's biggest disappointments too. Only 8 went for Bonty as a nominee (and only Mike__ picked Bonty to win it ... you were robbed Mike).
Most Kicks - Griff the overwhelming favourite (24) - only grassman75 got Macrae right.
Most Handballs - Libba (28) was long odds-on and didn't disappoint.
Most Marks - Roughead (12) the favourite but three picked Macrae.
Most Tackles - Libba a justifiable favourite (22) and he won it by a street. I think he just about doubled his nearest teammate.
Most Goal Assists - While we were all thinking Dahlhaus (12) or Crameri (9) VitalDread was the only one to pick Libba. Really, Libba and Macrae just about swept all the WB season awards.
How many games for Prudden? - Five got this right (zero games). Most thought he'd play a handful but there were a few optimistic ones in double figures. The outlier was Sharkey66 who thought he was glory-bound with 14 games, best first year player and a RS nomination. Who knows, without injury maybe he would have starred (and we might still have McCartney as coa... no, we won't go there).
Membership Tally - Nobody got this dead right of course, or even within 100, but nearest-the-pin gets a point. Congrats to Dav1d who picked 31,907 - just 182 over the final tally. The outliers were bones54 (36,549) and at the opposite end stmookeyj (29,539). Amazingly four people guessed that membership would be exactly 31,954 ... spooky!
Footscray - 17 of the 32 correctly picked us making the finals. Nobody picked Goodes for B&F or Redpath for Most Goals. Surprising.

SECTION B - AFL
Premiers - The predictions were shared almost exclusively between Freo (11), Hawthorn (10) and Sydney (9), with the one exception being VitalDread who picked Collingwood (guffaw).
Runners-Up - Most picked Hawthorn (10) but five picked Sydney. Only bones54 , who_let_the_dogs_out and Walsh Bay picked the Premier and Runner-Up correctly.
Spoon - StKilda was overwhelming favourite for the Wooden Spoon (22) and didn't let us down.
Brownlow Medal - there was an even spread with Libba just the most popular (6). None of us picked Priddis at the start of the year, but then nobody picked Priddis even on the day of the count. No shame there!
Coleman Medal - Only three picked Franklin. Roughead was the most popular pick (11).
Rising Star - Like the Brownlow, this was not an expected result before the season started: nobody picked Taylor. Jack Martin (10) was the favourite. A couple picked Hrovat, Fossie 32 picked Macrae (even though he was ineligible) and of course Mike__ picked Bonty.
Biggest drop from the top 8 in 2013 - I awarded this Collingwood (-5 spots) ahead of Carlton who only got there because Essendon were DQ'd. No correspondence will be entered into. It was a pretty popular result: 11 thought Geelong but next was Collingwood (7).
Biggest rise from bottom 8 in 2013 - WCE (11) was the most popular choice and was the correct one. Seven picked the WB.
Biggest shitstorm - A few amusing ones but mostly pretty meh. Several mentioned ASADA and the Dons but I have awarded a point to _M_16_ for "AFL Supplement scandal just drags on, and a few suspensions leave Essendon with list management headaches for 2015" Perhaps hasn't quite come to pass yet but looking more and more likely. Again, no correspondence please.

Final scores to follow! (drum roll ...)

31, 954 is because of 1954, I assume.

 

[dogwatch]

And the winners are:

SECTION A - WB and Footscray
First - BRG93 (10 pts)
Second - jumpingjones (9)
Third - Walsh Bay and Buckingham (8 each)

SECTION B - AFL
First - Dav1d and Trent85 (4 pts each)
There were four who had 3 pts: jumpingjones , Leon , Dannnnnnnnnn and bones54

OVERALL WINNERS
EQUAL FIRST on 12 Points: BRG93 and jumpingjones
THIRD: Trent85 (11.5 points)

Full table of results to follow.

 

[dogwatch]

31, 954 is because of 1954, I assume.

Well, it's true Fossie 32 was one of the four!

 

[timtamWB]

I never win anything

 

[dogwatch]

I never win anything

You win our undying appreciation for being a good loser.

 

[timtamWB]

You win our undying appreciation for being a good loser.

Thank you for insulting me in a polite way so I still feel good

 

[Trent85]

And the winners are:

SECTION A - WB and Footscray
First - BRG93 (10 pts)
Second - jumpingjones (9)
Third - Walsh Bay and Buckingham (8 each)

SECTION B - AFL
First - Dav1d and Trent85 (4 pts each)
There were four who had 3 pts: jumpingjones , Leon , Dannnnnnnnnn and bones54

OVERALL WINNERS
EQUAL FIRST on 12 Points: BRG93 and jumpingjones
THIRD: Trent85 (11.5 points)

Full table of results to follow.

I demand a recount






Thanks dogwatch for the tally

 

[dogwatch]

Here's the details...
I'm happy to entertain protests and requests for recounts. Just submit each request in triplicate with a $50 attached.

 

[Fossie 32]

Thank you Dogwatch. Stupid AwFL should have let Macrae win the RS

 

[Walsh Bay]

Thanks for doing that Dogwatch, bit of work there.

Nice to have an off-season diversion that isn't internecine squabbling.

 

[littlenails]

Congratulations to the winners.

Also, congratulations and good on you to everybody who had a go.

I couldn't do this myself. I'd pick us as winning all games. winning the premiership, winning the Brownlow, Stringer kicking 100 goals etc.

 

[dogwatch]

Thanks for doing that Dogwatch, bit of work there.

Nice to have an off-season diversion that isn't internecine squabbling.

Yes, I thought it might be timely.

 

[Easty]

I want recognition for being equard 3rd in the Bulldogs section!! haha

 

[dogwatch]

I want recognition for being equard 3rd in the Bulldogs section!! haha

...and Easty was a creditable equal third in the Bulldogs section.