iluvparis
Import Whisperer
- Apr 1, 2005
- 50,055
- 40,651
- AFL Club
- Carlton
- Other Teams
- Calgary Flames, Man Utd
Ludicrous. Obviously someone knows something I don't. Surely Oliver factor is not THAT big.
2014 Emirates Melbourne Cup Day discussion.
- Thread starter sethlad
- Start date
- Tagged users None
Ludicrous. Obviously someone knows something I don't. Surely Oliver factor is not THAT big.
- Banned
- #327
Re melb cup, I'm told the Jap stayers go all right...
Really!im not that stupid, that was a gag.
Hopefully a Melb cup spot wont be wasted on Sea Moon. Camel
Wow. seth I think come cup day you'll get around $20 on the tote, foolish to take those odds, but as I mentioned earlier regret not taking the 34/1 avaliable a couple of weeks ago. Didn't see the plunge coming that's for sure
I just think come cup day admire ratki will firm more as will protectionist, also Fawkner if lloyd presses onto the cup, and then there is the lexus winner. A few variables I know but am basing on Verema from last year horse that's never ran here firms into low teens but come cup day out to $20 mark
iluvparis
Import Whisperer
- Apr 1, 2005
- 50,055
- 40,651
- AFL Club
- Carlton
- Other Teams
- Calgary Flames, Man Utd
Looking a the current prices of Protectionist/Mutual Regard on Betfair - we could have one of the falsest top of the market for quite some time. Should be plenty of decent prices around if you think they can't win.
iluvparis
Import Whisperer
- Apr 1, 2005
- 50,055
- 40,651
- AFL Club
- Carlton
- Other Teams
- Calgary Flames, Man Utd
Does anyone think Fawkner's run today sheds any light, one way or the other, on his ability to get the 3200?
- Mar 17, 2014
- 10,871
- 12,766
- AFL Club
- Collingwood
He ran a good race last year . i think can run a place this year, cannot see anything beating Rakti though, unless he gets ridden like he did in the CC
Can see it hitting the wall 400 from home hopefully it gets backed big and pushes out others in the market
Rooster Cogburn
Premiership Player
- Dec 16, 2010
- 3,193
- 837
- AFL Club
- Sydney
- Other Teams
- Arsenal
I can't see him running after that, IMO that was a hard, hard run. Despite the almost fall, he had a pretty charmed run, didn't look like much in the tank. IMO 2400 sees him out.
Cue egg on face Fawkner MC win...
iluvparis
Import Whisperer
- Apr 1, 2005
- 50,055
- 40,651
- AFL Club
- Carlton
- Other Teams
- Calgary Flames, Man Utd
Similar thoughts Roostie - although given how I have been absolutely decimated by that Campaigner Lloyd in recent editions I would probably have to a saver on him if he went around.
The query is that the CP was his ultimate grand final/peak. Whatever happens from here is an afterthought. I'm not sure they are that keen on running, they might just ease off him and try again in the CP next year. If they go to the MC I can't see him winning.
Have to respect Williams though
S Achiever - if you take run on face value - is right in the mix and certainly fair way ahead of the offer, and Protectionist
- Mar 17, 2014
- 10,871
- 12,766
- AFL Club
- Collingwood
I just had a close look at the field... there is absolutely no depth in the race at all. Even the overseas runners are not as good as usual. If Fawkner doesn't run then Admire Rakti and Lucia are head and shoulders above everything else.
I have Rakti going for a fortune, going to save on Lucia .. in my eyes the odds should be Admire 2.20 LV 4.00 write your own ticket the rest... unless it rains.
Edit.. unless Hampton Court wins the derby then i give it a big chance as well.
I have Rakti going for a fortune, going to save on Lucia .. in my eyes the odds should be Admire 2.20 LV 4.00 write your own ticket the rest... unless it rains.
Edit.. unless Hampton Court wins the derby then i give it a big chance as well.
A11dAtP0w3R
Dumpster Fire Diver
- Oct 18, 2013
- 89,103
- 125,365
- AFL Club
- Melbourne
- Other Teams
- Carolina Panthers
Is Criterion going on to the MC?
Best stayers run from the Cox Plate for mine.
Not that i think he wins, best chance of the locals though.
Best stayers run from the Cox Plate for mine.
Not that i think he wins, best chance of the locals though.
I would doubt it, trainer didn't think he stayed the mile and a half as a 3yo and only got there on class so couldn't see him risk ruining him over the 2 miles
Criterion to go for a spell
iluvparis
Import Whisperer
- Apr 1, 2005
- 50,055
- 40,651
- AFL Club
- Carlton
- Other Teams
- Calgary Flames, Man Utd
Nah has blown out to 30s - i.e. where he should have been all along.
rideclutch
Norm Smith Medallist
No.
The fact the horse essentially ran up to expectation though may answer one of the other Lloyd bingo queries, in that he was most likely set for today. I didn't see him in the yard, but he had visible improvement to come after the Caulfield Stakes.
That said, he seemed to peak on his run 3rd up last time after having every chance before smashing the line 4th up in the CC. Provided he hasn't pulled up sore, he'll be 4th up into the Cup.
Lloyd strikes again?
Island Bomber
Club Legend
I agree, I will be taking those two for first and second in the first 4 and stacking up 3rd and 4th. Then reversing it for about a third of the first outlay just incase something stupid happens, those two 1st and 3rd and stack up 2nd and 4th.
