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So looks like one of the guys that Port supporters said would be fair to chuck in with pick 17 as adequate compensation for Ryder, Ben Newton, was delisted/walked out of the club today...
Geelong will pick him up for nothing.
Geelong will pick him up for nothing.
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Former first round draft pick who has been ruined by injuries until 2014 was able to get any continuity in his game.
Had something like a 3 week stint of 30+ disposals, 7 clearances and 2+ goals at one stage.
That boat has sailed with us I would imagine, and as you say will more than likely end up at Geelong.
Does him not accepting a contract offer make him a 'delisted' free agent or would he go into the draft pool?
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But,but,but Newton+17 is more than fair Ryder 
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How's the process work to send a contracted player to the rookie list?
Delist player > Pay contract out > redraft player in rookie draft > sign new contract ?
Don't need to pay them out unless they aren't redrafted, I believe, but once re-rookied they're naturally still entitled to the existing deal.
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This is what was annoying me they were offering up guys that they were going to delist anyway in combination with #17, which in my mind devalues the pick quite a bit!
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He left them, not the other way around.
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I know, but it seems as though the others they tried putting up were delisted.
Amazing just how bad Melbourne have been at the ND.
MELBOURNE'S ALTERNATIVE DRAFT PICKS
2006
12.James Frawley (Jack Riewoldt at No.13)
30.Ricky Petterd (Kurt Tippett, 32)
46. Colin Garland (Robbie Gray, 55)
62.Isaac Weetra (Tyson Goldsack, 63)
2007
4.Cale Morton (Patrick Dangerfield, 10)
14. Jack Grimes (Callan Ward, 19)
21.Addam Maric (Scott Selwood, 22)
53.Kyle Cheney (Cale Hooker, 54)
66.Tom McNamara
2008
1. Jack Watts (Nic Naitanui, 2)
17.Sam Blease (Luke Shuey, 18)
19.James Strauss (Hayden Ballantyne, 21)
35.Jamie Bennell (Steven Motlop, 39)
51. Neville Jetta (Michael Walters, 53)
64. Rohan Bail
2009
1.Tom Scully (Dustin Martin, 3)
2. Jack Trengove (Ben Cunnington, 5)
11.Jordan Gysberts (Daniel Talia, 13)
18. Luke Tapscott (Nat Fyfe, 20)
34. Max Gawn (Allen Christensen, 40)
50. Jack Fitzpatrick (Taylor Duryea, 69)
2010
12.Lucas Cook (Brodie Smith, 14)
33. Jeremy Howe (Luke Parker, 40)
50.Troy Davis (Paul Puopolo, 66)
53. Tom McDonald
2011
36.Rory Taggert (Jack Newnes, 37)
53.Josh Tynan (Lachie Neale, 58)
54.James Sellar (Cameron Sutcliffe, 71)
2012
4. Jimmy Toumpas (Ollie Wines, 7)
26. Jack Viney
48. Dean Kent
52. Matt Jones
68. Dean Terlich
2013
9. Christian Salem
40. Jay Kennedy-Harris
57. Jayden Hunt (Tom Langdon, 65)
MELBOURNE'S ALTERNATIVE DRAFT PICKS
2006
12.
30.
46. Colin Garland (Robbie Gray, 55)
62.
2007
4.
14. Jack Grimes (Callan Ward, 19)
21.
53.
66.
2008
1. Jack Watts (Nic Naitanui, 2)
17.
19.
35.
51. Neville Jetta (Michael Walters, 53)
64. Rohan Bail
2009
1.
2. Jack Trengove (Ben Cunnington, 5)
11.
18. Luke Tapscott (Nat Fyfe, 20)
34. Max Gawn (Allen Christensen, 40)
50. Jack Fitzpatrick (Taylor Duryea, 69)
2010
12.
33. Jeremy Howe (Luke Parker, 40)
50.
53. Tom McDonald
2011
36.
53.
54.
2012
4. Jimmy Toumpas (Ollie Wines, 7)
26. Jack Viney
48. Dean Kent
52. Matt Jones
68. Dean Terlich
2013
9. Christian Salem
40. Jay Kennedy-Harris
57. Jayden Hunt (Tom Langdon, 65)
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Bolded are hardly terrible. It's development, not talent
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How does that stack up against our drafting over the same period?
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I would guess you could do that with any clubs drafting and highlight all their misses. Every club has them. I would suggest Melbourne creates their own misses, with poor development.
This is why Petrecca would be gunning for #1 so that he has a chance of being an ok player.
Yes every club stuffs up picks. But only Melbourne routinely stuff up first round picks.
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A fair number of those first rounders for Melbourne were highly rated. Cale Morton, believe it or not, was seen as a good number 4 pick. Development is just as important as recruiting I guess.
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So Twomey has an article with whos in the mix for each clubs first picks and has us with Lamb. Like this! best case he becomes a fyfe for us
wonder if de goey would still be there in 3 picks time? or take both the other way around?
wonder if de goey would still be there in 3 picks time? or take both the other way around?
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Would be thrilled with Lamb if that were to eventuate. I think we're a very good chance at securing two quality kids next month.
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I'd be disappointed if we took Lamb with our first pick. Would much rather any of the good ball users in De Goey, Cockatoo, Ellis, Menadue, Duggan, etc.
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You might want to include Connor Blakely in that list too. Played in the WAFL most of the year despite only being in his draft year, averaged 21 touches for WA in the u/18s carnival, 7 clearances and at 78% efficiency. Wins his own ball, has a pretty reliable kick and moves at a reasonable pace. Could do far worse.
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From what I saw his kicking didn't look very damaging, but yeah pretty reliable. He seems like he could have an immediate impact like Dunstan. I'm pretty happy with the ball winners we've got though and would like to bring in more classy users like Z. Merrett.
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Going on that, you could almost say we have picks 15 and 18 as Melbourne are likely to pick 2 spuds with picks 2 and 3.
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Comparison with EFC:
MELBOURNE'S ALTERNATIVE DRAFT PICKS
2006
12.James Frawley (Jack Riewoldt at No.13),
30.Ricky Petterd (Kurt Tippett, 32),
46. Colin Garland (Robbie Gray, 55)
62.Isaac Weetra (Tyson Goldsack, 63)
2. Gumby
18. Jetta
36. Davey
42. Houli
47. Reimers
No one left on EFC list.. we also missed every player that Melbourne did. Melbourne score 2, EFC score 3
2007
4.Cale Morton (Patrick Dangerfield, 10)
14. Jack Grimes (Callan Ward, 19)
21.Addam Maric (Scott Selwood, 22)
53.Kyle Cheney (Cale Hooker, 54)
66.Tom McNamara
6. Myers (missed Dangerfield too)
23. Pears (missed Scott Selwood too)
39. D. Daniher
54. Hooker
3/4 still on list, Hooker the pick of the bunch for 'steals', Myers is not Dangerfield.. but a very solid pick up who is blooming now. Melbourne score 2, EFC score 6
2008
1. Jack Watts (Nic Naitanui, 2)
17.Sam Blease (Luke Shuey, 18)
19.James Strauss (Hayden Ballantyne, 21)
35.Jamie Bennell (Steven Motlop, 39)
51. Neville Jetta (Michael Walters, 53)
64. Rohan Bail
5. Hurley
23. Zaka
55. Still
67. H Slattery
EFC nailed the first two rounds of this draft and there was basically only junk after pick 40 anyway. Melbourne score 1pt, EFC score 6pts.
2009
1.Tom Scully (Dustin Martin, 3)
2. Jack Trengove (Ben Cunnington, 5)
11.Jordan Gysberts (Daniel Talia, 13)
18. Luke Tapscott (Nat Fyfe, 20)
34. Max Gawn (Allen Christensen, 40)
50. Jack Fitzpatrick (Taylor Duryea, 69)
10. melksham
24. Carlisle
26. Colyer
33. A Long
Another solid draft by EFC with 3/4 again turning into solid players. Melksham hasn't excelled but is a solid footballer, Carlisle great and Colyer really stood out in 2014. Melboure 2pts, EFC 5pts
2010
12.Lucas Cook (Brodie Smith, 14)
33. Jeremy Howe (Luke Parker, 40)
50.Troy Davis (Paul Puopolo, 66)
53. Tom McDonald
8. Heppell
31. Steinberg
48. Browne
64. Davis
80. Ross
106. Howlett
Weird draft for EFC with the book ends great but the middle still yet to show a lot. Melbourne blew this one badly too so 1 pt for them and 5pts for us.. purely for picking the next Superstar of the comp!
2011
36.Rory Taggert (Jack Newnes, 37)
53.Josh Tynan (Lachie Neale, 58)
54.James Sellar (Cameron Sutcliffe, 71)
19. Ekav
31. J Merrett
59. NOB
75. Crameri
Mixed bag for EFC and still early days. Melbourne had a royal shocker along with penalties. Ouch. Melbourne - 0pts, EFC -3pts
2012
4. Jimmy Toumpas (Ollie Wines, 7)
26. Jack Viney
48. Dean Kent
52. Matt Jones
68. Dean Terlich
10. J Daniher (FS)
34. Ashby
51. DVU
53. Gleeson
73. Kommer
86. Gregory
106. Baguley
Boosted by a great F/S opportunity, EFC nailed most picks in this draft. 5 quality players gained. melbourne also got a F/S boost but the rest was mainly junk. Melb score 5 pts.. EFC score 6pts
2013
9. Christian Salem
40. Jay Kennedy-Harris
57. Jayden Hunt (Tom Langdon, 65)
26. Z Merrett
55. Fantasia
64. Dalgleish
Too early to tell but EFC nailed the first two picks for sure.. Melbourne still jury out. Melbourne - 4 pts, EFC - 6 pts.
Total over the 8 year period: Melboure 17 points, EFC 40 points.
Yeah.. Melbourne suck.
MELBOURNE'S ALTERNATIVE DRAFT PICKS
2006
12.
30.
46. Colin Garland (Robbie Gray, 55)
62.
2. Gumby
18. Jetta
36. Davey
42. Houli
47. Reimers
No one left on EFC list.. we also missed every player that Melbourne did. Melbourne score 2, EFC score 3
2007
4.
14. Jack Grimes (Callan Ward, 19)
21.
53.
66.
6. Myers (missed Dangerfield too)
23. Pears (missed Scott Selwood too)
39. D. Daniher
54. Hooker
3/4 still on list, Hooker the pick of the bunch for 'steals', Myers is not Dangerfield.. but a very solid pick up who is blooming now. Melbourne score 2, EFC score 6
2008
1. Jack Watts (Nic Naitanui, 2)
17.
19.
35.
51. Neville Jetta (Michael Walters, 53)
64. Rohan Bail
5. Hurley
23. Zaka
55. Still
67. H Slattery
EFC nailed the first two rounds of this draft and there was basically only junk after pick 40 anyway. Melbourne score 1pt, EFC score 6pts.
2009
1.
2. Jack Trengove (Ben Cunnington, 5)
11.
18. Luke Tapscott (Nat Fyfe, 20)
34. Max Gawn (Allen Christensen, 40)
50. Jack Fitzpatrick (Taylor Duryea, 69)
10. melksham
24. Carlisle
26. Colyer
33. A Long
Another solid draft by EFC with 3/4 again turning into solid players. Melksham hasn't excelled but is a solid footballer, Carlisle great and Colyer really stood out in 2014. Melboure 2pts, EFC 5pts
2010
12.
33. Jeremy Howe (Luke Parker, 40)
50.
53. Tom McDonald
8. Heppell
31. Steinberg
48. Browne
64. Davis
80. Ross
106. Howlett
Weird draft for EFC with the book ends great but the middle still yet to show a lot. Melbourne blew this one badly too so 1 pt for them and 5pts for us.. purely for picking the next Superstar of the comp!
2011
36.
53.
54.
19. Ekav
31. J Merrett
59. NOB
75. Crameri
Mixed bag for EFC and still early days. Melbourne had a royal shocker along with penalties. Ouch. Melbourne - 0pts, EFC -3pts
2012
4. Jimmy Toumpas (Ollie Wines, 7)
26. Jack Viney
48. Dean Kent
52. Matt Jones
68. Dean Terlich
10. J Daniher (FS)
34. Ashby
51. DVU
53. Gleeson
73. Kommer
86. Gregory
106. Baguley
Boosted by a great F/S opportunity, EFC nailed most picks in this draft. 5 quality players gained. melbourne also got a F/S boost but the rest was mainly junk. Melb score 5 pts.. EFC score 6pts
2013
9. Christian Salem
40. Jay Kennedy-Harris
57. Jayden Hunt (Tom Langdon, 65)
26. Z Merrett
55. Fantasia
64. Dalgleish
Too early to tell but EFC nailed the first two picks for sure.. Melbourne still jury out. Melbourne - 4 pts, EFC - 6 pts.
Total over the 8 year period: Melboure 17 points, EFC 40 points.
Yeah.. Melbourne suck.
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How are you basing the point scoring? I don't get how we got 3 points for 2006 while Melb only got 2, despite one of those players still being on the list...
Also think you're being pretty biased towards Essendon, which I guess is to be suspected. But there's nothing to say that Fantasia was a "nailed pick" more than Salem or Kennedy-Harris.
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