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As demonstrated many times previously, and I'm sure the major reason why Vlad quit when he did coincidentally just before everything started to escalate.
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As demonstrated many times previously, and I'm sure the major reason why Vlad quit when he did coincidentally just before everything started to escalate.
Steady on now....ASIC has a better record in investigations than ASADA
The AFL would do almost anything to stay out of the courts on this.
And to think that they took away our finals spot last year and gave it to another club with significant governance issues.
The AFL are a corrupt organisation, overseeing a compromised competition, run by shady characters with conflicts of interest and with the temerity to employ somebody as an 'integrity' officer who has seemingly operated throughout the saga with absolutely no integrity whatsoever... * Carlton, * the AFL, and * Clothier.
Hence 'conflict of interest'.Mike Fitzpatrick - Carlton....
This Carlton stuff sounds like a coach not players.
ASADA making lots of noise, but still not showing anything about whether or not Dank had TB4 at Essendon and if that was given to any players.
This Carlton stuff sounds like a coach not players.
ASADA making lots of noise, but still not showing anything about whether or not Dank had TB4 at Essendon and if that was given to any players.
Peter Jess formally director of IM Medical. Peter Del Vecchio formally managing director of IM Medical. Peter Del Vecchio called as a witness to the Tribunal in his role as Dank's ex-business partner. Yesterday Del Vecchio (according to Martin Hardie) was 'lost' to ASADA as a witness. Today Jess makes a statement than Lovett-Murray is considering suing the AFL. None of these facts are related.
Nothing to see here, move along, move alongfrom a post elsewhere
ASADA alleges that Alavi told one of its investigators he believed the first batch of peptides was Thymosin Beta-4. This is at odds with what Alavi told The Australianearlier this year, when he said that because the peptide wasn’t tested, he didn’t know what form of Thymosin it was.
Pity they didn't get a sworn statement to that effect when he said that, isnt it...
According to Holmes’ outline, Alavi compounded the first batch of Thymosin into clear vials and the second batch into amber vials. A sample of the first batch was sent to a US lab for testing but no result was returned. The remainder of the first batch was provided to Dank.
The ASADA case outline does not make clear what happened to the second batch of Thymosin.
What does that actually mean 'no result was returned'? - the lab received & tested the sample but didn't receive payment for their services so never tested it or never forwarded the results? Surely the lab would still have a record of this exchange if it did indeed happen?
Anyone know how these type of lab's work with regard to payment?
Is it normal practice to "compound" substances when the chemist does not know what the substances are?
All the players have suffered mental anguish so I'd be staggered if they all didn't sue the AFL. I actually warned the AFL and the media some time ago that this would happen. I am surprised that Peter Jess didn't indicate he may sue Evans and Robson. They knew about the supplement program whereas the other directors didn't. I have very reliable information that the invoices for the supplements were not included in the monthly financial reports to the board
that's a unique combination of supplements to be provided over a period that parallels the afl season just for a coach.This Carlton stuff sounds like a coach not players.
ASADA making lots of noise, but still not showing anything about whether or not Dank had TB4 at Essendon and if that was given to any players.
that part obviously related to the charge against Dank which is happening at the same time.
We only have to defend TB4.
Why the f#@k is the charge against Dank being heard at the same time as the charges against the players?
That would only make sense if all the evidence relating to all the charges arose from the same events, and so the evidence only needed to be presented once.
Not the case.
If Dank is charged with trafficking and supplying to coaches, and also charged with providing Hexarelin to Essendon, that is completely separate to the charges against the players, and it is only muddying the waters and delaying the proceedings to hear them in the same proceedings.
If it is ASADA's decision to do it together, then you have to suspect the motives. Trying to tar the players with the same brush. Trying to hint to the tribunal that if Dank was doing bad things, then it is easier for them to believe the players are guilty too.
Why the f#@k is the charge against Dank being heard at the same time as the charges against the players?
That would only make sense if all the evidence relating to all the charges arose from the same events, and so the evidence only needed to be presented once.
Not the case.
If Dank is charged with trafficking and supplying to coaches, and also charged with providing Hexarelin to Essendon, that is completely separate to the charges against the players, and it is only muddying the waters and delaying the proceedings to hear them in the same proceedings.
If it is ASADA's decision to do it together, then you have to suspect the motives. Trying to tar the players with the same brush. Trying to hint to the tribunal that if Dank was doing bad things, then it is easier for them to believe the players are guilty too.
that's a unique combination of supplements to be provided over a period that parallels the afl season just for a coach.
shouldn't be a problem for carlton to provide proof that no players received any of the supplements.
Why the f#@k is the charge against Dank being heard at the same time as the charges against the players?
That would only make sense if all the evidence relating to all the charges arose from the same events, and so the evidence only needed to be presented once.
Not the case.
If Dank is charged with trafficking and supplying to coaches, and also charged with providing Hexarelin to Essendon, that is completely separate to the charges against the players, and it is only muddying the waters and delaying the proceedings to hear them in the same proceedings.
If it is ASADA's decision to do it together, then you have to suspect the motives. Trying to tar the players with the same brush. Trying to hint to the tribunal that if Dank was doing bad things, then it is easier for them to believe the players are guilty too.