AFL floats possibility of small penalty if Dons guilty, but ASADA stays silent

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Did anyone actually think this was going to be a totally independent process?

Did anyone actually think the AFL wants players banned? The AFL love us. They NEEEEED us.

Also did anyone realise KFC sell 24 nuggets for 10 bucks? Ripper deal.
 
mxett said:
The point is people are paying out on the AFL for recommending 6 month ban yet ASADA recommended the same earlier this year. Irrespective of deals, is 6 months a reasonable penalty or not? If not, blame ASADA too
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Too black and white, friend.

With genuine contrition, timely cooperation etc. maybe it could be contemplated.

6 months ago is 6 months ago, and that time is gone. aSADA reached out a friendly paw and said, know what - if we sort this and move forward, ideally to a WADA compliant future, there might not be a need for such a heavy penalty.

Essendon players lost that chance. You can't suggest it is reasonable to expect it back.
 
jerry springer said:
Asada wont appeal, they will come up with some piss-ant excuse as they just want all of this to go away

its truly a line in the sand moment for Australian sport coming up
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If its a weak penalty for substantial assistance that ASADA disagrees with can see ASADA deciding not to appeal allowing a WADA appeal directly to CAS.
 
AFL imposed Players suspension finishes before an appeal against the laxity of the sentence is finished WTF happens then?
 
Proper Gander said:
Too black and white, friend.

With genuine contrition, timely cooperation etc. maybe it could be contemplated.

6 months ago is 6 months ago, and that time is gone. aSADA reached out a friendly paw and said, know what - if we sort this and move forward, ideally to a WADA compliant future, there might not be a need for such a heavy penalty.

Essendon players lost that chance. You can't suggest it is reasonable to expect it back.
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ASADA expected players to agree they took banned substances when they had already said the most they knew was they received a thymosin, thats it. Did ASADA want them to lie and say "ahh yes, thats right, it was TB4 after all"
 

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jerry springer said:
Asada wont appeal, they will come up with some piss-ant excuse as they just want all of this to go away

its truly a line in the sand moment for Australian sport coming up
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ASADA want this to go away?

Wha...?
 
10571z said:
Of course thats what the AFL wants..

SHOCK NEWS ESSENDON FANS?!?!?

The AFL doesn't want 1 of its big 4 clubs having players sitting out for 2 years. So many Dons fans think the AFL is out to get them when its actually the complete opposite.
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They just can't make it look like that.
 
Muggs said:
If its a weak penalty for substantial assistance that ASADA disagrees with can see ASADA deciding not to appeal allowing a WADA appeal directly to CAS.
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From the little I know (invitation to bullshit replies) I get the feeling WADA won't give a crap.
 
mxett said:
ASADA expected players to agree they took banned substances when they had already said the most they knew was they received a thymosin, thats it. Did ASADA want them to lie and say "ahh yes, thats right, it was TB4 after all"
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Only if you're absolutely sure they all told investigators the truth, and I can't see how you would be.
 
archibald23 said:
According to McDevitt any appeal by ASADA would be to the AFL Appeals Panel, where WADA's appeal would go direct to CAS. WADA may decide it to take this action.
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That is correct but only part of the story. ASADA can appeal to the AFL Appeal Panel and then if still dissatisfied, it can appeal to CAS. It doesn't require WADA to get there.

Still, its all academic at this point. Nobody has been found guilty of doping and no sanctions have been proposed by the tribunal
 
DapperJong said:
From the little I know (invitation to bullshit replies) I get the feeling WADA won't give a crap.
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Disagree, WADA looks at ensuring uniformity of penalties across the world. If a sport provides a substantial assistance reduction that a national anti doping agency disagrees with I think WADA would step in and back them up. Last thing WADA wants is each sport around the world going off doing their own thing.

Personally I do have faith in the tribunal applying the code correctly, so cant see the tribunal handing down a penalty down these lines, but on the off chance that ASADA voice gets drained out, WADA is there to back them up.
 
mxett said:
ASADA expected players to agree they took banned substances when they had already said the most they knew was they received a thymosin, thats it. Did ASADA want them to lie and say "ahh yes, thats right, it was TB4 after all"
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Only if you're absolutely sure they all told investigators the truth, and I can't see how you would be.
mxett said:
of the players are eligible for discounts such as substantial assistance and no significant fault it should apply irrespective of action by Hurd and the club, who arent facing INs
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so it should, but in the real world Essendon threw everything it could at ASADA - and they are obviously impartial public servants etc. but they are made up of people
 
ASADA/WADA wont do anything no support from the sport not the governing body not even other clubs or competitors politicians against them press reporting all one way traffic need a clean exit here or they risk their funding and reputations
 
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