Collingwood’s Josh Thomas, Lachie Keeffe accept two-year bans for taking banned drug clenbuterol

[tige19]

An increase in aerobic capacity isn't performance enhancing ??

Unless they are stupid enough to take during the season then no it won't increase their performance. It has a short life cycle, it's used to reduce fat and improve aesthetics. It's likely the boys were using it as a summer drug to have the rigs in order for the beach, absolute nuffies.

 

[thegerman]

I suspect the players have eaten something to cause the positive tests.

Their actions thus far (allowing names to be put out etc) are hardly actions of guilty drug takers.

I could be wrong, just a hunch.

Essendon on the other hand....

I wonder how much tainted meat you'd need for a result, to whether it's a kilo of meat per day for a month, or just one sample.

Would be interesting if these guys travelled in the off season to some third world country, where tainted meat is more prevalent.

 

[blured]

HAHAHA

unless they have eaten a freshly cooked Racing Horse I very much doubt it was something they have eaten.

but what about natural justice

 

[Defacto]

maybe they can get to the bottom of their 2010 irregular HGH tests

 

[Schraderbrau]

no-one seems to be focusing on the fact that it's thirty-four players. Thirty-three you can understand, it's a rogue player juicing on his own time. But thirty-four? Is it then naive to think there aren't others who are at least aware and probably involved? And they were on a trip offsite, where do thirty-four people independently source this stuff?

Fixed your post

 

[Brighton_Diggins]

Cycling: Lance Armstrong failed four drugs tests in 1999, UCI admits

The International Cycling Union has defended its actions after it was confirmed that Lance Armstrong returned test samples with traces of corticosteroids four times during the 1999 Tour de France.
It had previously been known that the former US Postal rider, who in January confessed to drug use, tested positive for the substance once, but the UCI has confirmed a leaked internal memo stating that there were actually four positive tests.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...r-drugs-tests-in-1999-uci-admits-8577491.html

still not how he was brought down. same with michael rass. guy was the biggest doper going around but it was his no show for a dope test that got him.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

now he says

no positive test: crucify them!

positive test: don't jump to conclusions.

Just another poster in Bizzaro Land

 

[HBFlanker]

how is that ironic?

systematic drug system and then a couple of blokes taking clen to lose a kilo or two. they seem to be on different levels

 

[Engimal]

"Haha! Two Collingwood players have been caught! That is exactly the same as the systematic doping that occured at our club and not at all any different!"

- Essendon board, 2015

 

[HirdsTheWord]

but what about natural justice

Essendon didn't get any and that was without positive tests.

Why the * should we start now when these 2 have returned a positive test.

You are astounding

 

[Cronos]

apparently we are still on the old code according to Ings; 2015 not ratified yet

Interesting... The one I put in my quote is the Anti Doping Code from the AFL site, and it says amended 01 January 2015. I admit once I saw the date I moved on, assuming it said effective 01 January 2015...

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Fixed your post

 

[Jobe Watson]

Both from QLD and live together according to Pies board.

Tom Bell lives with them too.

This could get better.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

"Haha! Two Collingwood players have been caught! That is exactly the same as the systematic doping that occured at our club and not at all any different!"

- Essendon board, 2015

No one has been found guilty of doping at Essendon. Nice try

 

[DapperJong]

systematic drug system and then a couple of blokes taking clen to lose a kilo or two. they seem to be on different levels

Yeah, clen is way worse.

 

[NathanMX]

Damn the court system is gonna be clogged for years if the EFC are found guilty tomorrow. Maybe James and Bucks can car pool to High Court

 

[carlton2dabone]

If tomorrow the tribunal finds that TB4 was used at EFC but still let the players off for insufficient evidence regarding which exact players were injected with it, then IMO they should let off these 2 Collingwood players and everyone else that uses PEDs.

How unjust would it be that individual players who test positive for banned substances get banned, YET players involved in systemic PED program at their club get off because their club destroyed all records and it resulted in insufficient evidence as to which exact player recieved the banned stuff.

If EFC players get off for insufficient evidence whilst Dank is still found to have administered banned substances at EFC the it would be a farce.

 

[Truetiger]

2 clubs down. We might just make the finals yet lol.

 

[Schraderbrau]

So Essendon accused of taking a substance that allegedly aids recovery and with no positive tests.

Collingwood players return a positive test to a substance with anabolic properties that would no doubt enhance performance.

Pretty sure you won't find a "pharmacologically experimental environment" down at Pieland fwiw.

 

[andrewb]

Gift horses.....the gift horses have come home to roost.....but the barn door is closed.......and the baby and the bathwater are on the floor.....in one basket.

Keefe and Thomas ate the gift horse.

 

[tige19]

You've done well to write a post that is completely wrong in every sentence.

Stripping fat and being leaner isn't a performance enhancing effect? righto mate.

You can accidentally take it also, in small doses.

How does it directly improve their performance? If they are taking in season then yes, however due to the short life span of the drug it's generally used to improve aesthetics by creating a leaner, harder and dryer look. It's a drug to improve the way your body looks, the actual performance enhancing aspect is minimal if at all.

 

[Rack Watts]

So are a Collingwood going to try and sue everyone in sight or man up and take responsibility?

How can you sue when there's a positive test? Gee, the calibre of some 'fans' on here.

 

[HBFlanker]

Yeah, clen is way worse.

lel

 

[Art Corvelay]

No one has been found guilty of doping at Essendon. Nice try

Yet.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

systematic drug system and then a couple of blokes taking clen to lose a kilo or two. they seem to be on different levels

yeah... that's not irony