Essendon drugs saga: Clearing players and clearing club not the same thing

[Old Shinboner]

Good article from Michael Gleeson.

Many Bombers seem to believe that a not-guilty verdict essentially means the club has done no wrong.

The stain will take a long time to wash off.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-club-not-the-same-thing-20150330-1mbao8.html

 

[spenze]

I think this is how most reasonable minded people feel about the situation and exactly how the head coach still has employment at that business is just mindblowing

 

[TedDougChris]

Agreed. One if the central questions not asked or answered often enough is: "What was the reason behind the pharmalogically experimental regime ?".

What benefits was it supposed to bring ? Quicker recovery and the ability to push the players harder and longer than their opposition counterparts ? That doesnt sound performance enhancing or unfair in any way, does it.....

 

[onemancyclone]

Essendon needs a clean break, and a sharp clean ban for a year would do that.

The closest real world example of this is when you do a dump, and instead of getting a nice clean snap you get a half snapper and it's straight in to the shower.

 

[rdhopkins2]

Whatever happens this will be remembered for a very long time.

Both sides will appeal no doubt...

 

[Lance Uppercut]

I guess it's possible that one day I'll look back fondly at the time when every single article on a topic got it's own dedicated thread, but it's probably unlikely

 

[rdhopkins2]

Agreed. One if the central questions not asked or answered often enough is: "What was the reason behind the pharmalogically experimental regime ?".

What benefits was it supposed to bring ? Quicker recovery and the ability to push the players harder and longer than their opposition counterparts ? That doesnt sound performance enhancing or unfair in any way, does it.....

If they can get back onfield quicker than opponents I'd deem it performance enhancing and unfair advantage over teams not using this method.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

If they are found guilty however, will the club act or James act first and remove him from the club?

 

[TerryWallet]

I guess it's possible that one day I'll look back fondly at the time when every single article on a topic got it's own dedicated thread, but it's probably unlikely

The most humorous part about every new thread, is seeing whether your condemnation retort comes in at post #3, 4 or 5. Like clockwork for 2 1/2 years haha.

You're getting tired as the end of the beginning nears. Post #6....tut tut

 

[TedDougChris]

The most humorous part about every new thread, is seeing whether your condemnation retort comes in at post #3, 4 or 5. Like clockwork for 2 1/2 years haha.

You're getting tired as the end of the beginning nears. Post #6....tut tut

I like the way the issues and questions raised get addressed in such an honest and detailed manner....

 

[Lance Uppercut]

The most humorous part about every new thread, is seeing whether your condemnation retort comes in at post #3, 4 or 5. Like clockwork for 2 1/2 years haha.

You're getting tired as the end of the beginning nears. Post #6....tut tut

all I really care about is that you care about how I'm posting. It means a lot to me Tel, you have no idea how much I cherish our relationship

 

[Ancient Tiger]

If they can get back onfield quicker than opponents I'd deem it performance enhancing and unfair advantage over teams not using this method.

The argument always is that if you use permitted ways, then it doesn't matter. For example, altitude training stimulates endogenous EPO secretion and is thus legal. It still is performance enhancing though.....

 

[Proper Gander]

If they can get back onfield quicker than opponents I'd deem it performance enhancing and unfair advantage over teams not using this method.

yeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssss ... only physio can get you back onfield quicker, as can standing around arms folded in the Bay.

Know what you mean though. I'm a bit bored so being difficult for the sake of it at the moment. I'll see myself out.

 

[TerryWallet]

all I really care about is that you care about how I'm posting. It means a lot to me Tel, you have no idea how much I cherish our relationship

I thought Post#6 was as enlightening as all your other Post #3,4 or 5 posts.

There was a risk people would take the OP information seriously until you stepped in....as always.

You have "saved" EFC again from evil outside opinion.

 

[Satan]

I guess it's possible that one day I'll look back fondly at the time when every single article on a topic got it's own dedicated thread, but it's probably unlikely

The chief will be on the island drinking his beer without internet

 

[Lance Uppercut]

I thought Post#6 was as enlightening as all your other Post #3,4 or 5 posts.

There was a risk people would take the OP information seriously until you stepped in....as always.

You have "saved" EFC again from evil outside opinion.

hehe, it is nice that you think I have so much power, but in the end I am nothing more than an opinionated nobody. But I hold dear the esteem in which you hold me.

Even if it is just a tiny bit hypocritical and ironic when you constantly berate me for posting about berating others for posting, but let's not worry about that too much, it is merely a symptom of your feelings towards me

 

[onemancyclone]

hehe, it is nice that you think I have so much power, but in the end I am nothing more than an opinionated nobody. But I hold dear the esteem in which you hold me.

Even if it is just a tiny bit hypocritical and ironic when you constantly berate me for posting about berating others for posting, but let's not worry about that too much, it is merely a symptom of your feelings towards me

I love you.

 

[TerryWallet]

hehe, it is nice that you think I have so much power, but in the end I am nothing more than an opinionated nobody. But I hold dear the esteem in which you hold me.

Even if it is just a tiny bit hypocritical and ironic when you constantly berate me for posting about berating others for posting, but let's not worry about that too much, it is merely a symptom of your feelings towards me

hahahaha....i will put your 1st paragraph down to a bit of "intentional absurd reading" of my niggle.

I love watching "self appointed gatekeepers" in action.

Plugger is still my favorite though during the schoolgirl saga.

 

[wowlace]

The argument always is that if you use permitted ways, then it doesn't matter. For example, altitude training stimulates endogenous EPO secretion and is thus legal. It still is performance enhancing though.....

The major difference is one requires actual training. The other only requires an injection.

 

[Jobe Watson]

Good, good.

Media getting these articles out the way before the decision.

 

[Albert Ross]

I guess it's possible that one day I'll look back fondly at the time when every single article on a topic got it's own dedicated thread, but it's probably unlikely

Feel free not to start any new threads when the players get cleared

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Feel free not to start any new threads when the players get cleared

hey, my rules don't apply to me

 

[Lance Uppercut]

hahahaha....i will put your 1st paragraph down to a bit of "intentional absurd reading" of my niggle.

I love watching "self appointed gatekeepers" in action.

Plugger is still my favorite though during the schoolgirl saga.

Tel, I know you wouldn't care if you didn't care

 

[TerryWallet]

Tel, I know you wouldn't care if you didn't care

The most busy posters always care the least

I love the new moniker BigFooty have delivered LanceUppercut.

 

[KM00]

good article. very good