EFC players: Comfortable satisfaction not reached.

[KennyHunter9]

The players got away because the club did not produce the paper work that would have specified who took what, and ASADA had to rely on circumstantial evidence.

That's not a victory for four reasons:

1. The possibility that Charters and Alavi may still appear before CAS if there is an appeal

2. New testing methods that nab cheating athletes years later mean that these players will always be subject to potential findings of guilt.

3. The thousands of injections of non-medical, the drugs on premises, the use of the drugs by coaches, the muscular dystrophy experiments and the knowledge of the coach will forever taint this club as the biggest drug cheats in Australian sports history.

4. The players live with the uncertainty about what was injected into them. That will play out over many years.

 

[carlton2dabone]

I think you have over interpreted.

The statement is about a group of people. Any player means any individual.

But if it was about a group of people, they would have worded it differently, after all they had 3 weeks to choose the exact wording of their judgement.

When someone says that there is insufficient evidence that any players was administered banned substances, they are are saying exactly that they dont believe that any player was administered banned substances.

In his press conference, Gil said that what he has read (which we haven't been privvy to yet) is that the tribunal believes that there is insufficient evidence to believe that the substance administered to EFC players was in fact TB4.

 

[Spook]

didnt hear that part. I did hear him say ASADA tried to manipulate his evidence. He also said Hird didnt control the program and if staff followed jis instructions there wouldnt have been any issue

Yea I heard that.. Quite funny.... we can all stand on a chair and say something out a loud, then do something under the table... bit like Black Ops I guess

 

[Randomizor]

Hey guys been off

What I miss?

Remember on Next Top Model when the presenter announced the wrong name as the winner? Turns out the tribunal meant to say "Very Guilty" instead.

 

[funk44]

Please let this s**t be over now

 

[Lester Burnham]

Not surprising in the slightest. Even if WADA or whatever appeal it doesn't matter. If the AFL can buy six-twelve months more time, which means retirements, trades out of Essendon and dilute the pain across the comp, then that's a win for them.

They won't ever throw the Essendon Football Club under the bus, and anyone who thought they would is a moron.

I was expecting guilty verdicts with retrospective bans or possibly bans that extend a couple of weeks into the 2105 season. That way Essendon are not thrown under the bus and ASADA/WADA are appeased and the whole affair has closure. This way there is still the possibility of appeals and the bans will be out of the AFL's hands.

 

[Spook]

Some Essendon Supporter Alan the peanut on SEN saying its like winning a Grand Final.... what a clown

 

[mxett]

As long as you keep promoting cheating and corruption - then I will keep waiting for Essendon to be punished

whos promoting cheating?

 

[Cransberg23]

Can ASADA simply now just issue SC notices for AOD-9604, which Watson has already admitted to taking?

No, they won't.

 

[Armchair Critic]

Hey guys been off

What I miss?

Robbo ejaculating about 7 times

 

[boncer34]

This is never going to go away. The stain is there for good.

.

Honestly?

I think you're vastly overestimating how much this website reflects the general footballing public.

 

[Malifice]

Remember on Next Top Model when the presenter announced the wrong name as the winner?

Im ashamed to answer this in the affirmative.

I need to go away and rethink my life.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

But if it was about a group of people, they would have worded it differently, after all they had 3 weeks to choose the exact wording of their judgement.

When someone says that there is insufficient evidence that any players was administered banned substances, they are are saying exactly that they dont believe that any player was administered banned substances.

In his press conference, Gil said that what he has read (which we haven't been privvy to yet) is that the tribunal believes that there is insufficient evidence to believe that the substance administered to EFC players was in fact TB4.

So what was the substance then? so theyre saying if they cant prove exactly what was taken then injdct what ever you want and keep no records? Disgusting

 

[boncer34]

Never seen so many Essendon supporters on HTB

So brave

Conversely I haven't seen so many opposition fans staying away from it.

Weird.

 

[Spook]

what a joke that Essendon Staff see this as a Victory...... FFS Jobe Watson still said its that then players still don't know what they were injected with..... so sad

 

[Sloth]

If ASADA appeals are the players still provisionally suspended?

 

[Hoops]

It's alright guys. It's okay to cheat in the AFL, as long as there is no paperwork. Inject whatever you want!!!!!

Great message to send out.

Did you miss what happened in 2013 with Essendon?

 

[Purple Suit]

 

[Grockadoc]

I had a debate about the findings with my cousin on Facebook about this result today. He kept using the word innocent. That is completely wrong. There was insufficient evidence to prosecute the players. However, due to the lack of documentation, there is also nothing to definitely prove innocence in this case.

 

[Gavstar]

If ASADA appeals are the players still provisionally suspended?

No the players are now free to play.

 

[Chief]

Honestly?

I think you're vastly overestimating how much this website reflects the general footballing public.

I think you're underestimating it.

 

[GarnerSmash]

didnt hear that part. I did hear him say ASADA tried to manipulate his evidence. He also said Hird didnt control the program and if staff followed jis instructions there wouldnt have been any issue

Christ. Why was a convicted drug dealer giving advice to those running the program and aware of who was responsible for what? Why hasn't this been addressed before?

 

[Astro Bomber]

Hey guys been off

What I miss?

Apparently "Essendon players: Reached comfortable satisfaction." Now they are having a smoke.

 

[mxett]

what a joke that Essendon Staff see this as a Victory...... FFS Jobe Watson still said its that then players still don't know what they were injected with..... so sad

again, these are seperate issues. The club acknowledges the mistakes it made around that program. The joy is that players who never chose to dope were found not to have

 

[mxett]

Christ. Why was a convicted drug dealer giving advice to those running the program and aware of who was responsible for what? Why hasn't this been addressed before?

it has, he was involved at one minor stage and only through Dank