I'm finding it harder and harder to hate Seb as he gets older. Funny bastard.
Come join us on the dark side buddy, its much more fun watching VET race without the hate
2015 Monaco Grand Prix - FIA Formula One World Championship: Round Six
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Come join us on the dark side buddy, its much more fun watching VET race without the hate
Gak Attack
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The meltdown from the sky boys is great tv.
Hawks1523
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I saw it as they couldn't afford to waste time for DR to get past DK if they wanted to try and snaffle 3rd. As such, they let him by ASAP to hunt 3rd and if unsuccessful, he'd give it back.
And while I'm at it, it's good to see RBR finally on the same page. No delay in Kvyat helping Ricciardo, and Dan giving back that place when he couldn't get much further. When was the last time there was anything resembling team work at Red Bull?
Bacon Warrior
D10
Holy s**t, I love Monaco!!
Hawks1523
Brownlow Medallist
Worst decision ever
The Sky post race tonight is a sight to behold. Herbert and Hill seem to think it's a huge joke, the rest seem genuinely distressed.
Gak Attack
Brownlow Medallist
It would be the greatest thing ever if some injustice ever cost Lewis the championship in the final race. The Sky boys would probably burn down the media center.
I want to see Ted or Natalie try and interview Lewis.
Yeah I get the theory, but since when has racing ever worked like that?
My girlfriend who is starting to really get into F1 (she actually said today "I'm really excited for the race, didn't think I'd ever say that") put it best when with regard to Brundle's questions to Hamilton she said:
"Jeez he didn't just lose a family member, he just lost a race"
The Sky meltdown is outstanding viewing.
She's certainly trying.
So is Lewis saying the team told him to stay out but he decided to come in because he thought Nico had?
That's what I got from the interview.
In spite of all the fun over Hamilton, I was disappointed at Red Bull's strategy regards Ricciardo. After Kyvat pitted Kyvat was 0.3-0.5 a lap faster but they just let Ricciardo drift for lap after lap on his old tyres. At Monaco there's so few chances for overtaking there's no point in being on fresher tyres late in the race because you can't overtake without causing some incident (and I though RIC was lucky not to get a penalty passing Raikonnen). Releasing him for a last gasp effort to overtake either Hamilton or Vettel was a bit fanciful to be honest.
Agreed. He did give it a fair crack though.
Toto Wolff confirms Mercedes geniuses can't count
Ted Kravitz sounds like he wants a CCC investigation into this race 
Toto Wolff confirms Mercedes geniuses can't count
It's called human error.
hopefully the team can rule a line under it and move on to the next race as a united team and .....
nah who am I kidding, it will be ego fights and dicks out at forty paces! Great stuff!
There's nothing quite like an F1 s**t fight.
If I were Lewis I'd be fuming. Pitstops seem to the bane of his career.
It's going to take a while for the dust to settle from this one. Victory was snatched from Lewis Hamilton's grasp today, after a blunder by Mercedes put him from first to third.
The drama took place toward the end of the race, as Max Verstappen crashed into the back of Romain Grosjean's Lotus as they approached turn 1, putting his Toro Rosso into the barriers as a result. Verstappen was unhurt, despite the high speed of the accident, and Grosjean's car was undamaged, able to continue.
What the accident did do was to bring out a safety car, and Mercedes inexplicably pitted Hamilton from the lead, gambling that he would get out still in front. It was a mistake, that saw Hamilton not only come out behind teammate Nico Rosberg (who was gifted his third successive Monaco victory), but also behind Sebastian Vettel's Ferrari as well. It took several laps for the safety car to turn in, and by the time it did, Hamilton had eight laps to try and pass Vettel, but the narrow streets of Monaco are not friendly to overtaking, and Hamilton could not find a way past.
It was otherwise a perfect race from Hamilton. He had qualified on pole, started well, pulled away comfortably and was some 20 seconds clear of Rosberg when he pitted.
The race was not a memorable one for McLaren's Fernando Alonso - first he got a five-second stop-go penalty for a first-lap incident where he bumped Nico Hulkenberg's Force India into the barriers, then he was forced to retire due to mechanical failure (a fate that yet again befell Pastor Maldonaldo's Lotus as well).
Daniil Kvyat was fourth, his best result of the year so far, ahead of Red Bull teammate Daniel Ricciardo (whom Kvyat let by in the closing stages of the race to challenge Hamilton, but Red Bull then ordered Ricciardo to give the place back to Kvyat when it became clear he wasn't getting by). The second Ferrari of Kimi Raikkonen didn't fare too well, ending up behind both Red Bulls (including being the victim of an unceremonious bump by Ricciardo late on).
It was a terrible weekend for Williams. Valtteri Bottas was knocked out of qualifying in Q1, and Felipe Massa didn't fare much better. The previously pacey cars ended up 14th and 15th, a bad day at the office for them.
Force India did get a car into the points - Sergio Perez was 7th, but McLaren perhaps had the best cause to celebrate - Jensen Button scored their first points of the season with 8th. Felipe Nasr took points for Sauber too, in 9th, and Carlos Sainz completed the points. All in all, seven different teams scored points.
The biggest talking point from today will inevitably be Mercedes' decision to pit Hamilton during the safety car. He was set to extend his championship lead to 27 points - instead it has been cut to 10. He will no doubt want to put the race behind him - but a near-certain victory was lost today, in cruel circumstances.
The drama took place toward the end of the race, as Max Verstappen crashed into the back of Romain Grosjean's Lotus as they approached turn 1, putting his Toro Rosso into the barriers as a result. Verstappen was unhurt, despite the high speed of the accident, and Grosjean's car was undamaged, able to continue.
What the accident did do was to bring out a safety car, and Mercedes inexplicably pitted Hamilton from the lead, gambling that he would get out still in front. It was a mistake, that saw Hamilton not only come out behind teammate Nico Rosberg (who was gifted his third successive Monaco victory), but also behind Sebastian Vettel's Ferrari as well. It took several laps for the safety car to turn in, and by the time it did, Hamilton had eight laps to try and pass Vettel, but the narrow streets of Monaco are not friendly to overtaking, and Hamilton could not find a way past.
It was otherwise a perfect race from Hamilton. He had qualified on pole, started well, pulled away comfortably and was some 20 seconds clear of Rosberg when he pitted.
The race was not a memorable one for McLaren's Fernando Alonso - first he got a five-second stop-go penalty for a first-lap incident where he bumped Nico Hulkenberg's Force India into the barriers, then he was forced to retire due to mechanical failure (a fate that yet again befell Pastor Maldonaldo's Lotus as well).
Daniil Kvyat was fourth, his best result of the year so far, ahead of Red Bull teammate Daniel Ricciardo (whom Kvyat let by in the closing stages of the race to challenge Hamilton, but Red Bull then ordered Ricciardo to give the place back to Kvyat when it became clear he wasn't getting by). The second Ferrari of Kimi Raikkonen didn't fare too well, ending up behind both Red Bulls (including being the victim of an unceremonious bump by Ricciardo late on).
It was a terrible weekend for Williams. Valtteri Bottas was knocked out of qualifying in Q1, and Felipe Massa didn't fare much better. The previously pacey cars ended up 14th and 15th, a bad day at the office for them.
Force India did get a car into the points - Sergio Perez was 7th, but McLaren perhaps had the best cause to celebrate - Jensen Button scored their first points of the season with 8th. Felipe Nasr took points for Sauber too, in 9th, and Carlos Sainz completed the points. All in all, seven different teams scored points.
The biggest talking point from today will inevitably be Mercedes' decision to pit Hamilton during the safety car. He was set to extend his championship lead to 27 points - instead it has been cut to 10. He will no doubt want to put the race behind him - but a near-certain victory was lost today, in cruel circumstances.
ManWithNoName
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Vettel: "Why didn't we have any grid girls today? What was that? You get there and park behind George or Dave. What's the point?".
