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RonSon
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We can all hate on each other's clubs, but taking a pot shot at a young player for receiving a RS nom from the AFL seems a bit harsh. 4 goal assists, 7 I50s and a goal from a small forward is a good game, and it's great the AFL recognise these types of performances from different positions over an ok midfielders game (unless it's a Cripps type performance of course). If Jakey Neade could just get it all together I have no doubt he could be something special at AFL level, just love watching these blokes play our game.
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He is s**t and so is the rising star award
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Mental on Grand Final day.
We'll always have 2004...
R.I.P. The Alex.
Such a great footy pub.
Mental on Grand Final day.
We'll always have 2004...
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AFL just stirring the pot.
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I don't see why people rate Cameron, good luck to him but he's an average footballer. I hope he plays 200 games alongside Jenkins.
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Agreed Charlie is a more than handy player, he's not a champion, but he's not a spud either.
A lot of us ( me included ) have been harsh for the sake of being harsh when rating tingle's players, which in my opinion only drops us to the level of too many of their supporters.
Eg, Richard Douglas was one tingle player who used to cop heaps on the old site, but in the cold, hard light of day, he would have walked into the Power lineup of the time.
Young player drafted in the rookie draft, in what is generally known as the hardest position on the ground, and is doing alright for himself in the AFL. I rate him.
Small forward the hardest position on the ground? Can't say I agree
Didn't know where to post this, but was musing over the inequity of the draw and possible alternatives.
If we accept that 22 games is the right length of the season (which seems to be the consensus of players and the administration) then each team is going to be stuck with playing only 5 teams twice. The current system attempts to level out the competition by deliberately manipulating this so that weaker teams have a theoretically greater chance the following year. Whichever way you select the double ups there's going to be some who come out of it well and some who don't.
So, why not run the "double up" games in the first ten rounds of the season for all clubs, and do them on a "home and away" basis, with the 4 points being awarded based on the aggregate of the two games. That way, there are still 22 games, but there is no artificial boost from playing weaker teams twice (or penalty for playing stronger teams). There's also no imbalance during the season (for example where we play Sydney twice before others play them once). Downside would be there are then only 17 lots of 4 points which may make the ladder more congested but that would be balanced out by potentially making the last few weeks of the season closer and more exciting.
If we accept that 22 games is the right length of the season (which seems to be the consensus of players and the administration) then each team is going to be stuck with playing only 5 teams twice. The current system attempts to level out the competition by deliberately manipulating this so that weaker teams have a theoretically greater chance the following year. Whichever way you select the double ups there's going to be some who come out of it well and some who don't.
So, why not run the "double up" games in the first ten rounds of the season for all clubs, and do them on a "home and away" basis, with the 4 points being awarded based on the aggregate of the two games. That way, there are still 22 games, but there is no artificial boost from playing weaker teams twice (or penalty for playing stronger teams). There's also no imbalance during the season (for example where we play Sydney twice before others play them once). Downside would be there are then only 17 lots of 4 points which may make the ladder more congested but that would be balanced out by potentially making the last few weeks of the season closer and more exciting.
Modra on open mike gave me a smile when he said taking Hodges off in the '93 prelim was a dud call, said they were working well together & he got double teamed for the rest of the game once Hodges was benched.
Onya Wrinkles
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As a 9 year old, who really didn't know much about tactics or anything of the sort, I remember yelling at the TV asking why Hodges wasn't on the ground during the 3rd or 4th quarter as Essendon made their charge....
That was after I had sang a song that went something like "we're going to play the Grand Final" over and over during the halftime break... I learnt a few life lessons that day....
That was after I had sang a song that went something like "we're going to play the Grand Final" over and over during the halftime break... I learnt a few life lessons that day....
Yeah the crux is there are only 4 points on offer against each team, whether you play once or twice. So, you can either make each double up game worth only 2 points, or allocate all 4 based on an aggregate of the two games. I prefer the second, for the very reason you state - if you knock off Freo in Perth then there is some advantage going into the home leg. And I would play the two games in successive weeks. If you wanted to you could even add some artificial incentive like "away points count double" but i think that gets confusing for all.
Yea I knew that was the greater perception but Modra saying it would've put a turd in Graham's cereal bowl this morning.
*I was only a whippet back then so my memories of Hodges at his best are limited but man he must regret not going to a Victorian club, should of been a 200 gamer at AFL level
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Yep that was as obvious as the nose on your face, Modra and Hodges were working well in tandem, but as soon as old crater face dragged Hodges the tingle's forward line fell apart.
Corne's hate for anyone connected to Port Adelaide cost him the chance of an AFL flag, and aint that a shame.
Hardest position on the ground?
Forward pocket? You've got to be kidding
Try CHF or CHB
That brought a smile to the dile for sure.
Now waiting for Wrinkles explanation in a full page story in Saturday's paper.
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Another method of equalisation would be to award a bonus premiership point for each quarter won, then have each team's 5 duplicate games against the four nearest teams on the final ladder from the previous year plus one annual marquee double-up game.
So from last year, Port would play Hawthorn, Sydney, North and Fremantle twice, as well as Adelaide. All games versus these opponents are worth a total of 16 points and we could be reasonably expected to split them at 8 points each. Then we play the lower teams once each, and if we're good enough we could take all 8 points from these games.
Or the AFL could just play ostrich and pretend there isn't a problem. ..
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There's not really too much wrong with how the draw's been done this year, this is really the best that they can get it with the number of teams, blockbusters, showdowns, games in Tassie, NT and NZ and the agenda that prevents most Vic teams travelling much. We have got the same kind of draw as the top 6 teams from last year and were in a good place considering after 5 rounds, it's just that everything has gone belly-up since then. Sure, our second game against Sydney has come before the cows first but last year Hawthorn had played Sydney twice by round 18 and Sydney did not play St Kilda till round 21 and the Western Bulldogs till round 22. These things will happen.
Without a total disaster in the second half of the year we should finish in the second six meaning a softer draw and a likely easy path to the finals. That should be helped by our players having a full preseason. That kind of entry to the finals isn't really satisfactory, it would be better to be prepared against the best, but once we are in finals then anything can happen.
Without a total disaster in the second half of the year we should finish in the second six meaning a softer draw and a likely easy path to the finals. That should be helped by our players having a full preseason. That kind of entry to the finals isn't really satisfactory, it would be better to be prepared against the best, but once we are in finals then anything can happen.
Small forward is exceptionally hard - they have to rely on the rest of the team to have a good performance. How many superstar small forwards in the comp are there? Our best two are so good because they can go through the midfield and win their own ball. But a specialist small forward? There hasn't been an out and out jet since Milne.
Edit: Except for Rioli and he's never kicked 40 goals in a season.
I think that is because small forwards who cant play in the middle are the most expendable players on the ground. Hence why all the superstar small forwards usually go into the midfield. Milne is the exception. But even then I feel a player like Robbie Gray adds much more value to a team
Then that further proves my point of how hard it is as a position - if you can't also be a midfielder, you have to be a DAMN good small forward.
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