Mega Thread All things Tony Abbott

Who will be the next Prime Minister of Australia

  • Malcolm Turnbull

  • Julie Bishop

  • Scott Morrison

  • Andrew Robb

  • Someone from the LIberal Party other than those above

  • Bill Shorten

  • Someone from the Labor Party other than Shorten


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Just mentioned in another thread - funding for security $35 Billion
Withdrew funding for Alcohol and other Drugs Advisory board - $35 million per year
Withdrew funding for 70 agencies involved in Mental Health - $300 million per year

But that's the point
He loves the idea of war, just not enough to actually put himself in danger. Putting others in danger though, ordering them to fight for him is something I think Abbott loves the idea of.

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Run a few front page stories on what civil liberties have been lost under the government and the last and people will be screaming for ministerial heads to roll and for a general eleciton

Noone/ very few gave a stuff about 18c though did they?

Internet filter is about the only one that people tend to give a stuff about (and ID card back in the day). People think they care about freedoms but in reality for the vast majority its BS. That's why governments can get away with it. Always been the way.

Journalism in Australia died a decade ago and it has taken a decade for many to start realising it, only problem now is the media no longer have the appetite for it as it costs too much money and it's cheaper to run some reality program than invest in investigative journalism.

Reckon you are absolutely spot on. Print across the globe is bleeding. Its alleged two thirds of news now is off the wire / PR.
 
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Noone/ very few gave a stuff about 18c though did they?

Internet filter is about the only one that people tend to give a stuff about (and ID card back in the day). People think they care about freedoms but in reality for the vast majority its BS. That's why governments can get away with it. Always been the way.



Reckon you are absolutely spot on. Print across the globe is bleeding. Its alleged two thirds of news now is off the wire / PR.
What about 18c?
 

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What about 18c?

Post was in relation to lost civil liberties. 18c is particularly grubby attack on free speech. Yet who spoke out? Very sad.

One day soon I'll have to sit and read about how it was a travesty that the fiscally irresponsible ALP managed to depose the outstanding Abbott Govt through trickery and lies and I'll fair dinkum spew up.

"Off goes the head of the king, and tyranny gives way to freedom. The change seems abysmal. Then, bit by bit, the face of freedom hardens, and by and by it is the old face of tyranny. Then another cycle, and another. But under the play of all these opposites there is something fundamental and permanent — the basic delusion that men may be governed and yet be free."
 
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Post was in relation to lost civil liberties. 18c is particularly grubby attack on free speech. Yet who spoke out? Very sad.
18c is not a grubby little attack on free speech.

Some people spoke out, but those people seem to be supporting tighter restrictions on freedoms.
In fact, they seem to be attacking the ABC for letting someone speak.

Not to mention what this entire thread is about...
 

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18c is not a grubby little attack on free speech....

Yep, its a vile stain. Its almost beyond belief that anyone can support blasphemy laws.

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In fact, they seem to be attacking the ABC for letting someone speak.

Not to mention what this entire thread is about...

Yes! Exactly. Hypocrites. Just as attacking them and defending 18c is. Same/same.

Tim Wilson has made an A grade campaigner of himself. Human Rights commissioner. Wank non job to reward mates. He joins Tim Flannery in the no hoping, lecturing, snout in trough brigade.

Holy fruitcake!

http://www.news.com.au/finance/mone...on-top-of-salary/story-e6frfmci-1226891151479

TONY Abbott’s hand-picked human rights adviser has been given a $56,000 expenses package to top up his six-figure salary.

Human Rights Commissioner Tim Wilson now has a total salary of $389,000 plus vehicle and telephone expenses following a recent decision by the Remuneration Tribunal.
 
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Yep, its a vile stain. Its almost beyond belief that anyone can support blasphemy laws.

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Yes! Exactly. Hypocrites. Just as attacking them and defending 18c is. Same/same.

Tim Wilson has made an A grade campaigner of himself. Human Rights commissioner. Wank non job to reward mates. He joins Tim Flannery in the no hoping, lecturing, snout in trough brigade.

Holy fruitcake!

http://www.news.com.au/finance/mone...on-top-of-salary/story-e6frfmci-1226891151479

TONY Abbott’s hand-picked human rights adviser has been given a $56,000 expenses package to top up his six-figure salary.

Human Rights Commissioner Tim Wilson now has a total salary of $389,000 plus vehicle and telephone expenses following a recent decision by the Remuneration Tribunal.
18c doesn't do a thing...
It's not comparable to jailing a doctor for ten years, for speaking out about inhumanities...

You are just doing your usual diversion bullshit. You are so disingenuous about so many things.
It's really rather annoying, because you're not a stupid person.
 
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Clinton would be just as bad as well. Both sides of politics in the US is broken.

you don't know that..but we do know that Bush I & II used fear, Bush III may be a bit more moderate than father and brother.

Howard used boats & 9/11, along with the fictitious WMD, Abbott is using ISIS, which his party helped create, to bend us over and $%#* in the ass. I reckon Abbott pushed the fear button too early, and he'll have little to use come election time, short of a homegrown terror attack..which he would love.
 

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True, but to be fair, Obama got in on "Yes we can", essentially a platform of hope over fear.
Similarly Whiltlam had "it's time". None of this should be surprising though, as fear of change fits naturally with conservatism.
What change did Obama follow through on? Both parties are ****ed in the US and they are not that far behind here!
 

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you don't know that..but we do know that Bush I & II used fear, Bush III may be a bit more moderate than father and brother.

Howard used boats & 9/11, along with the fictitious WMD, Abbott is using ISIS, which his party helped create, to bend us over and $%#* in the ass. I reckon Abbott pushed the fear button too early, and he'll have little to use come election time, short of a homegrown terror attack..which he would love.
The CIA, Mossad and MI6 created ISIS. Howard had nothing to do with it.
 
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What change did Obama follow through on? Both parties are stuffed in the US and they are not that far behind here!
We were talking about using fear to get votes I was just highlighting that the two sides of politics are not equal in that respect.
Do you 1 agree. 2 disagree 3 prefer to change the subject.
 

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The CIA, Mossad and MI6 created ISIS. Howard had nothing to do with it.

Howard had nothing to do with it? The Iraqi army was disbanded in 2003, which created the insurgency, which helped create the current problems in Iraq/Syria. The current & former leaders of ISIS are all ex Iraqi army officials from the Hussein era, and you think Howard & Co didn't help create this mess? We were part of the "Mission Accomplished" team.

disbandment/400,000 armed soldiers without jobs or money
insurgency/Al Zarqawi, need I say more?
marginalising of Sunni's/Shiite dominated government
ISIS/current day, most of its leaders are former Baathist officials/Army.

but, we had nothing to do with it?!

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Howard had nothing to do with it? The Iraqi army was disbanded in 2003, which created the insurgency, which helped create the current problems in Iraq/Syria. The current & former leaders of ISIS are all ex Iraqi army officials from the Hussein era, and you think Howard & Co didn't help create this mess? We were part of the "Mission Accomplished" team.

disbandment/400,000 armed soldiers without jobs or money
insurgency/Al Zarqawi, need I say more?
marginalising of Sunni's/Shiite dominated government
ISIS/current day, most of its leaders are former Baathist officials/Army.

but, we had nothing to do with it?!

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Trained, financed and armed by the CIA to fight the Assad government in Syria. But hey, you stick with that nice propaganda piece!
 
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