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Clubs who have had two players with 500 career goals in the same team


Club | Player 1 | Player 2 | Season/s | Games played together with 500 + goals
\Hawthorn|Leigh Matthews|Michael Moncrieff|1980-1983|32
\Hawthorn|Jason Dunstall|Paul Salmon|1996-1998|38
\North Melbourne|Wayne Carey|John Longmire|1999|7
\North Melbourne|Wayne Carey|Sav Rocca|2001|13
\Essendon|Matthew Lloyd|Paul Salmon|2002|3
\Sydney|Michael O'Loughlin|Barry Hall|2009|7
\Western Bulldogs|Brad Johnson|Barry Hall|2010|14
\St Kilda|Stephen Milne|Nick Riewoldt|2012-2013|26
 
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Not sure if this has been brought up before, but in the 1989 Grand Final against Hawthorn, Geelong won three of the four quarters against the Hawks (2, 3 & 4), but the Cats still lost the game.

Twenty years later, playing St Kilda in the 2009 Grand Final, the Cats lost the first three quarters, but won the last and it was enough for Geelong to take the premiership.
 

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Hawthorn has been the only team to score 100 this round.

How many times in a round has only one team scored 100 (or no teams)? When was the last time it occurred?

With both Adelaide and Port reaching 100, there were three teams for the round.

Last time there was one - Round 11 2015 (Collingwood). Previously - Round 11 1989 (also Collingwood)

Last time there were none - Round 17 1984
 
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Clubs who have had two players with 500 career goals in the same team


Club | Player 1 | Player 2 | Season/s | Games played together with 500 + goals
\Hawthorn|Leigh Matthews|Michael Moncrieff|1980-1983|32
\Hawthorn|Jason Dunstall|Paul Salmon|1996-1998|38
\North Melbourne|Wayne Carey|John Longmire|1999|8
\North Melbourne|Wayne Carey|Sav Rocca|2001|13
\Essendon|Matthew Lloyd|Paul Salmon|2002|3
\Western Bulldogs|Brad Johnson|Barry Hall|2010|14
\St Kilda|Stephen Milne|Nick Riewoldt|2012-2013|26

I've got Carey/Longmire 7 games

also Hall/O'Loughlin 7
 
I've got Carey/Longmire 7 games

also Hall/O'Loughlin 7

Don't know how I missed Hall and O'Loughlin. It says I posted the table at 1:13AM, so I will claim I was posting and trying to watch the Ashes at the same time, as well as being doleful over my team losing a close one to Geelong.
I think I have included Round 8, 1999 for Carey/Longmire. This is the game where Carey crossed the 500 goal mark, but I must have forgotten to check if Longmire played in the same game.
I have now amended the table.
 
So this week we've got Boomer reaching his 400th game, the 4th player to do so in VFL/AFL history.

Currently, the collective tally is 1628 games at an average of 407 games each.

Guernsey number wise:

Tuck: 17.
Bartlett: 29.
Fletcher: 31.
Harvey: 29.

As you can see, there are 2 No. 29's there and only one 31 and one 17.

31 + 17 = 48 - 29 = 19 (Brent Harvey made his VFL/AFL debut 19 years ago.)
 
Trying to keep tabs on the history of the game and evolution of rules is not helped when admin bodies apply those rules inconsistently. A few days ago I noted that Paul had updated the AFL Tables site to include some newly found information about caretaker coaches in decades past - those changes particularly influenced by discoveries of "playing coaches" being suspended and therefore replaced by caretaker coaches for a number of weeks.

However, the VFL administration did not always apply the rule consistently !!

Graham Arthur was allowed to keep coaching Hawthorn,
but John Nicholls was replaced at Carlton for a week by Keith McKenzie.

1965 Arthur suspended allowed to coach
https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=pYYQAAAAIBAJ&sjid=9JQDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4472,651477

1973 Nicholls suspended not allowed to coach
https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=15wQAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1JADAAAAIBAJ&pg=5283,2195859
 
Brent "Boomer" Harvey has won each of his milestone games: 1st, 50th, 100th, 150th, 200th, 250th, 300th, 350th, 400th

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He also won his 312th game which broke Archer's club record for games.

However, he lost his 186th game when he broke Peter German's club record for guernsey #29.

Next milestone is his 404th game to break Bartlett's league record for guernsey #29.
 
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Melbourne scored exactly 50 3 times in a row earlier in the year v Fremantle, Sydney, Hawthorn (all MCG).

Last 3 weeks they have scored exactly 60 v West Coast, Essendon, Brisbane (Traeger, MCG, MCG).

Don't know if it's a 'record' but it's interesting to get the same score 3 weeks consecutively twice in a season.
 

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To anyone interested in such things, there have been some changes made to the official lineups for some of Fitzroy's 1907 games. I've posted the contents of the email I received from the AFL Statistics people in the Footy History / Inaccuracy in official records thread:-

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/list-thread-inaccuracy-in-official-records.1089761/page-5#post-39842873

Good thread. I encourage you guys in the loop to continue adding to it. Meanwhile I've got some work to do.
 
There was a good stat shown on Talking Footy last night.

Teams with a percentage over 170% after round 17:
West Coast 1991 - 181.4% - lost grand final
St Kilda 2009 - 170.0%% - lost grand final
Collingwood 2011 - 175.7% - lost grand final
Hawthorn 2015 - 170.1% - ???

...the Hawks have history against them.
 
Not sure if this has been brought up before, but in the 1989 Grand Final against Hawthorn, Geelong won three of the four quarters against the Hawks (2, 3 & 4), but the Cats still lost the game.

Twenty years later, playing St Kilda in the 2009 Grand Final, the Cats lost the first three quarters, but won the last and it was enough for Geelong to take the premiership.

Furthermore, in both those grand finals, the margin was 6 points when the final siren sounded.
 
There was a good stat shown on Talking Footy last night.

Teams with a percentage over 170% after round 17:
West Coast 1991 - 181.4% - lost grand final
St Kilda 2009 - 170.0%% - lost grand final
Collingwood 2011 - 175.7% - lost grand final
Hawthorn 2015 - 170.1% - ???

...the Hawks have history against them.

In addition, the only other time Hawthorn were going for three premierships in a row was in 1990. In both 1990 and 2015 Hawthorn began by thumping Geelong in round 1 and then losing to Essendon at the MCG in round 2.
 
There was a good stat shown on Talking Footy last night.

Teams with a percentage over 170% after round 17:
West Coast 1991 - 181.4% - lost grand final
St Kilda 2009 - 170.0%% - lost grand final
Collingwood 2011 - 175.7% - lost grand final
Hawthorn 2015 - 170.1% - ???

...the Hawks have history against them.

Did they qualify it with "in the modern era"?

Essendon 1911, 184.8% and won the flag. And a couple of teams on 169.2% won the flag.

It's interesting, but I'm not sure it's significant from such a small sample size.
 
Melbourne scored exactly 50 3 times in a row earlier in the year v Fremantle, Sydney, Hawthorn (all MCG).

Last 3 weeks they have scored exactly 60 v West Coast, Essendon, Brisbane (Traeger, MCG, MCG).

Don't know if it's a 'record' but it's interesting to get the same score 3 weeks consecutively twice in a season.

Only one club (Ri 1999 R18-20, 79 points) has previously scored the same total in three consecutive games, so it is indeed remarkable.
 
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Melbourne scored exactly 50 3 times in a row earlier in the year v Fremantle, Sydney, Hawthorn (all MCG).

Last 3 weeks they have scored exactly 60 v West Coast, Essendon, Brisbane (Traeger, MCG, MCG).

Don't know if it's a 'record' but it's interesting to get the same score 3 weeks consecutively twice in a season.


Another coincidence with Melbourne's scoring took place late in the 1984 season, when the Demons lost 3 successive games by a margin of 32 points. In Round 18, Fitzroy defeated Melbourne 22.20-152 to 17.18-120; in Round 19 Footscray triumphed over Melbourne 20.15-135 to 15.13-103 and in Round 20 Collingwood beat Melbourne 15.13-103 to 9.17-71.
 
A little surprised given the powerhouse status of the Tigers and Hawks in several seasons in the 70's and early 80's that the crowd of 66,305 was a record between the clubs. May have thought an MCG clash in that era could have supplied a bigger crowd.

Wonder also if that remarkable record of avoiding a Final between the clubs will continue. It'll need a Hawk 1st round loss and a Tiger 1st round win for a chance of this. I hope though that this match might see the AFL start to schedule a few more clashes between these clubs, it was a great high pressure game.
 

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