Yes.So what if all the booing stopped of Goodes. and say 3 games later and there was still no booing, and in a game he does some act that maybe injures an opposition player or he takes one of his usual dives.
Can we boo him for that 1 act,
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Yes.So what if all the booing stopped of Goodes. and say 3 games later and there was still no booing, and in a game he does some act that maybe injures an opposition player or he takes one of his usual dives.
Can we boo him for that 1 act,
Know him personally do you?You know Cyril thinks you're a flog for doing it right?
I posted in the Jetta thread that Goodes decision to effectively claim that all booing was racially motivated (comment to media pre indigenous round) was a poor decision by him and I still hold that view.
Notwithstanding that view, now that Goodes is so clearly affected by this issue then the booing should stop. His right to be free of being racially abused (even if only a perception) outweighs anyone's claimed right to be able to boo him.
Holding back from booing one player will not affect you in any way. The same cannot be said for Goodes if people continue to boo him.
Regards
S. Pete
Get your hand off it i was highlighting the absurdity of his implication.
Getting offended is not a direct consequence of a statement. It hinges on the offendees perception. Being offended isn't something out of our control. I can choose not to be offended by something. The opposite is also true.
A good step in that direction is helping indigenous Australians move from tiny, remote communities to areas with better support and prospects.
But then a bunch of white people who have never been to an Aboriginal community in their lives flood cities to protest about it.
Yes.
I'm still struggling to reconcile people looking at a debate with Miranda Devine, Barry Hall and Eddie McGuire on one side and every respected player, coach, official and media figure on the other - including their own club's - and thinking; "yeah, I want to die defending that hill with the guy who called him king kong, that's the right choice"
The mind boggles.
If you want to go that far, I burn your house, build my own on the ruins and lock you and successive generations in the cellar. Then blame you for it. Then decide to let you out of the cellar and apologise, but only after a generation or two of legal action. And you still have to find somewhere else to live.But the analogy is your great grand children say sorry, and their great grand children can accept the apology and move on.
You missed my point totally, humans have been invading one another for a lot longer than 40,000 years but really the only way to stop this continuing is to let go of our grievances and try and work together to make everyone's lives better no matter where they come from or what they look like.
This is going to go out of control especially around finals time. Crazy for AFL, Swans President, Goodes, Jetta to blow this out of proportion. Lunacy.
What was your point, that sport and politics shouldn't mix?
So I take it you weren't a fan of Peter Norman's support of the civil rights movement in the '68 Olympics?
First of all, his implication wasn't absurd at all. Being offended isn't really a choice. If you're genuinely offended by something, it is based on what happened in your life up to then. You don't just decide to be offended. You are offended and then decide what to do about it.Get your hand off it i was highlighting the absurdity of his implication.
yesSo what if all the booing stopped of Goodes. and say 3 games later and there was still no booing, and in a game he does some act that maybe injures an opposition player or he takes one of his usual dives.
Can we boo him for that 1 act, or would we be racists for booing him that 1 time for that 1 act.
I actual think as a player he has probably played a couple of years to long, hence the way he plays these days.
I also find it offensive that people are automatically calling people who boo him as racist. All the PC bullshit is ruining this great country.
And even Obama gets attacked for his comments like, "If I had a son, he would look like Treyvon"....So there is a confirmed racial element to the booing. We have a boo-er not understanding why 'go back to the zoo' is not racist and accusing it of political correctness going mad. Are there people still saying there isn't a racist component of the booing?
I tend to agree with those who suggest that because Goodes isn't a compliant black who dares advocate for indigenous rights, that he is treated like a 'flog' and therefore booed. There is nothing on-field that sets him apart from others - he doesn't dive more often, he hasn't sort-of-admitted to taking a banned supplement, he doesn't punch play players, he doesn't knee them either - so why is this booing so persistent and loud? I read the Opinion section of the West today and I tend to agree with the author's theory - like in America, you'd better not be an uppity black like Jesse Jackson or Spike Lee, but a quiet black like Barack Obama or Oprah Winfrey. You stay out of confronting others about racist treatment, and you won't get vilified by the majority. You'd better not win Australian of the Year by campaigning against indigenous inequality, otherwise you will never be treated fairly again on the footy field.
Hmm.
All the comments in the media saying that all booers are racists really irk me.
Why do people have to lie about it?
Why not tell the truth? Acknowledge that not all boos will be racist, but that some are and it's not on to allow that to continue?
It's just such a short-sighted strategy.
So there is a confirmed racial element to the booing. We have a boo-er not understanding why 'go back to the zoo' is not racist and accusing it of political correctness going mad. Are there people still saying there isn't a racist component of the booing?
I tend to agree with those who suggest that because Goodes isn't a compliant black who dares advocate for indigenous rights, that he is treated like a 'flog' and therefore booed. There is nothing on-field that sets him apart from others - he doesn't dive more often, he hasn't sort-of-admitted to taking a banned supplement, he doesn't punch play players, he doesn't knee them either - so why is this booing so persistent and loud? I read the Opinion section of the West today and I tend to agree with the author's theory - like in America, you'd better not be an uppity black like Jesse Jackson or Spike Lee, but a quiet black like Barack Obama or Oprah Winfrey. You stay out of confronting others about racist treatment, and you won't get vilified by the majority. You'd better not win Australian of the Year by campaigning against indigenous inequality, otherwise you will never be treated fairly again on the footy field.
Hmm.
A "war dance" is not a celebration.A dance is a celebration. Giving the finger is not.
The second part contradicts the first. If he is really strong willed of character to "get on with the game" as you suggested then would he really end up having his mental health affected by it a matter of a month or two later? Nor is that a fact that is it affecting him has been confirmed either.
Whats been confirmed by the Swans boss is he and Adam thinks the booing is confirmed to be racial now, and that all the booing is racism. And that is irrational.
So there is a confirmed racial element to the booing. We have a boo-er not understanding why 'go back to the zoo' is not racist and accusing it of political correctness going mad. Are there people still saying there isn't a racist component of the booing?