I just want to see Goldstein dominate against Freo before he is appointed the undisputed best ruckman in the AFL. Until then, there is room for debate.
He has been sensational though, especially the past 4 or 6 weeks.
Goldstein v Nic Nat
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I just want to see Goldstein dominate against Freo before he is appointed the undisputed best ruckman in the AFL. Until then, there is room for debate.
He has been sensational though, especially the past 4 or 6 weeks.
I dont see any of the top Ruckman dominating each other.... one might edge the other out but that's as far as its gona go....
Voted Goldy marginally, hopefully I will be wrong come the end of the season.
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Goldstein for mine, has been good the whole year while NicNat was quiet over the first 6 weeks or so. Both have easily been better than Sandilands though.
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If Goldy continues to have an impact around the ground he'll get 1st Ruck. But Nic Nat is in super form atm.
IIRC Sandilands, when matched up on Lycett earlier this year, completely monstered him.
I would be interested to see how the HOs break down when Naitanui was actually opposed to Sandilands.
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I rate a full fit Nic Nat higher and believe he has a greater impact on games. However, Goldstein is locked in for All Australian ahead of NN due to his dominance in the first 6 rounds as opposed to NN.
Don't think many Eagles fans would disagree that Goldy has been better over the course of the season due to Nic Nats slow start.
Both would have a legitimate case for being the most influential player in the league over the last two months, and both north and west coast would see their aspirations to do anything in the finals completely crushed if they went down.
Both would have a legitimate case for being the most influential player in the league over the last two months, and both north and west coast would see their aspirations to do anything in the finals completely crushed if they went down.
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I don't know, your forward line and backline have been a lot better than ours and could survive a down game from Nic Nat in a final.
Nic Nat if you just want to win the hitouts and get the best hitouts to your midfielders with some freakish ground level agility. Goldstein if you want the around the ground work and the tireless engine meaning you barely need to give him any support in the ruck plus being pretty good in the hitouts in his own right.
Generally i'd take Goldstein. A more complete package. I do think there are certain matchups where you would prefer to have Nic Nat and partly it depends on the team you have but you really can't go wrong with Goldstein - he's like the ruckman for every occasion. If you just wanted a ruckman who could beat the other top ruckman in hitouts Nic Nat is better though.
Generally i'd take Goldstein. A more complete package. I do think there are certain matchups where you would prefer to have Nic Nat and partly it depends on the team you have but you really can't go wrong with Goldstein - he's like the ruckman for every occasion. If you just wanted a ruckman who could beat the other top ruckman in hitouts Nic Nat is better though.
So you rate Goldstein now do you? Was your number 1 most overrated player in the Comp 3 months ago. Now you think he is deserving of an AA selection. Make up your mind
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I can think someone is deserving of an All Australian and at the same time think they are over rated. These are two different arguments. Also, how would my opinion on how some one is rated before the season starts have any bearing on my position of how well they play in relation to other ruck man during the season.
I am sorry you got upset but get over it.
lol you still actually think he is overrated. God that is funny.
Considering there are some north fans who think he's putting together the greatest ruck season ever I think it's fair for some to say he's overrated
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Think they should both be AA this year. Unlikely because the bench is just used for 'next best 4 midfielders' but one of them should take up a bench spot.
Cyril is the most overrated player in the comp and will never get close to the Brownlow
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It would be good to have a version of this divided into:
Goldstein (NM fan)
Goldstein (Neutral)
Naitanui (WC fan)
Naitnaui (Neutral)
I'm willing to predict that the neutral vote would be heavily in Goldstein's favour.
Goldstein (NM fan)
Goldstein (Neutral)
Naitanui (WC fan)
Naitnaui (Neutral)
I'm willing to predict that the neutral vote would be heavily in Goldstein's favour.
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Sandilands is the bigger man, but Goldstein has the bigger ticker.
And most of the west coast fans would vote for Goldy. Nic Nat started slowly and is now going to have at least 2 weeks away with his family situation.
A more interesting question is who you'd prefer going forward.
