Which recreational drugs do you believe are performance enhancing and have you done those?
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This! If you have taken recreational drugs you would understand they are far more likely to decrease athlete performance than increase it. Most people don't have a very good understanding of recreational drugs which is fine but to mistake them for performance enhancing drugs is just ignorant. I've said it before but the fact that eagles managed to win a flag with key players battling drug problems is actually a testament to how good they were that they won despite these issues. I know ice users and their performance in any given field is usually deplorable and their mental and physical state deteriorates with time.
The suggestion that Cousins could run harder on ice is ridiculous, it would have made him sketchy and his heart rate would have increased to the point of him collapsing on field due to extreme physical activity. Watch him on ice in his documentary, leaning against a bathroom wall and face twitching. A person in that state isn't coming out in the second half of a final and winning the game. He outran opponents because his personality was such that he constantly pushed his body to the limits- both on field and off. His greatest strength on the field was his greatest weakness off it.
I usually don't mind Mike but unless he has confirmed information about performance enhancing drugs being used, he is way off the mark.
Performance enhancing? I struggle to get through Tuesday night training after 2 beans on a Saturday night.
WCE boys of '06 are weapons to win one while being on the gear so much.
WCE boys of '06 are weapons to win one while being on the gear so much.
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LOL when will people learn that recreational drugs impair your ability to play footy.
Lets get out there and win a footy game!
Xsess
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What's with all the anti WCE Vic media all of a sudden, are we playing good again?
Yeh how could one of the games greatest runners possibly make a second year player in Van Berlo look like a .... hmmm second year player? Adelaide lost that prelim because wce worked harder. To say they worked harder because of recreational drugs that they were high on during the game is absurd, cant you see that? To say that Adelaide lost because one player of the opposing team went and smoked crystal meth during half time is even more laughable.
Sttew
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Except you're male! People, don't be deceived by Birdbrain's avatar!!
Seriously, Mike has to explain himself. He is not the first person to raise this topic.
Speed, without drinking whilst you're on it. I know that's a broad coverall for a drug that could be a mixture of anything but you could say the same about any unregulated recreational drugs. I'm at pains to make the point that the performance enhancement would not be for everyone, you've only got to go to a music festival to see that individuals respond to substances in individual ways.
*I'm not saying West Coast or any other team for that matter actually did it, but I think it's plausible. I don't subscribe to the theory that recreational drugs cannot be performance enhancing.
Ummmm didn't he recently interview Dale Lewis about this exact thing a few weeks ago, about how it was right across the league but all head honchos just wanted to bury there heads in the sand.
What a damn hypocrite.
What a damn hypocrite.
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Who cares three cups in our cupboard and Mike is just sitting at home playing with his flaccid, irrelevant dick.
He's a joke and anyone with an ounce of footy IQ would recognize that.
Piss off to the retirement village Mike, you are a clueless has been.
He's a joke and anyone with an ounce of footy IQ would recognize that.
Piss off to the retirement village Mike, you are a clueless has been.
Pfft, I'm racktastic!
Judd was a meth head?
*Barry Hall cough*
When even Freo fans are putting the boot into Sheahan you know you are onto something.
Like many people in Perth, I hung out with Cuz a bit in the wee hours of the morning. If you think the drugs he took made him a better footballer, you're nuts. I once saw him stay up from the Eagles Xmas dinner till the 28th of Dec, that was about 6 days. How do you think that would make you perform better? It ate away at his muscles. You think that helps with his game? I could barely recognise him the first time I met him he was so gaunt compared to normal. He certainly wasn't playing while high and the 30+ drug tests he took proved that. He was target tested for a while and nothing came up.
However, we're doing well, so it is time for another Sheehan bash. Maybe Walls can come out and call us the dark empire again and say the Swans winning over us would be a triumph of good over evil?
I note that Sheehan didn't once mention <injunction> in this article. They won premierships when their players had tested positive for recreational drugs. Our players didn't test positive, however we cop flack and <injunction> doesn't? It makes no sense.
However, we're doing well, so it is time for another Sheehan bash. Maybe Walls can come out and call us the dark empire again and say the Swans winning over us would be a triumph of good over evil?
I note that Sheehan didn't once mention <injunction> in this article. They won premierships when their players had tested positive for recreational drugs. Our players didn't test positive, however we cop flack and <injunction> doesn't? It makes no sense.
Bah, that was a total capitulation by Geelong. They were pathetic that day. Nothing to do with what was in our players and everything to do with what was in between the ears of yours.
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What a joke this is. I cant begin to tell you how many AFL players take and use recreational drugs. To think that West Coast were the only team doing that in 2006 is a laughable. To this day, players are doing it from premiership teams. Think of the snow that gets blown after premiership victories and during the off season trips to places like Vegas. If members of society that are not AFL players are taking drugs, then the small sample of young men within the AFL system with copious amounts disposable income are doing it in abundance. The difference between the rest of the AFL population and West Coast Eagles players is that the Eagles players got nicely hooked and let it become a little bit to frequent, hence the side effects of this drug taking reared its ugly head. Performance enhancing? What was Cousins taking? Ice? Cocaine? Speed? I think from a performance enhancing perspective these issues aren't really that relevant. Wasn't Ben Cousins always a good player? And West Coast only won their Grand Final by 1 point? Hmmmm, not sure if those recreational drugs had much impact.
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Go and do some homework mate and read the post from Demonator. Sounds like you're a bit jaded not going back to back.
Don't worry - we're doing well now on and off the field, which is probably why the whole issue from the past is being dredged up again.
This is a good thing, West Coast supporters! They hate us and want to tar the current success we're having with the s**t-dipped brush from the past.
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