List Mgmt. OFFICIAL: Dangerfield + Pick 50 for Picks 9, 28 and Dean Gore

[Turbocat]

no, as danger will say that he wants to go home etc,
it will be totally unsportmanlike and vindictive, and not great for the afl
the afl will intervene

there will not be a trade

and they will do what? They will say , there are the rules... trade to get him... We will make sure they accept a reasonable deal.
"whats reasonable" we will say?
R1 this year and R1 next year does it for to us.

To me if they match..it gets ugly... but if Geelong has committed that we will get it done , no matter what... it could get ugly and expensive....especially now there is Future picks
Its all down to ... do we make an offer they cant match...

 

[Mahlepi]

and they will do what? They will say , there are the rules... trade to get him... We will make sure they accept a reasonable deal.
"whats reasonable" we will say?
R1 this year and R1 next year does it for to us.

To me if they match..it gets ugly... but if Geelong has committed that we will get it done , no matter what... it could get ugly and expensive....especially now there is Future picks
Its all down to ... do we make an offer they cant match...

That's why we will front load a two year deal
Keep our pay system

 

[Art Vandelay_]

and they will do what? They will say , there are the rules... trade to get him... We will make sure they accept a reasonable deal.
"whats reasonable" we will say?
R1 this year and R1 next year does it for to us.

To me if they match..it gets ugly... but if Geelong has committed that we will get it done , no matter what... it could get ugly and expensive....especially now there is Future picks
Its all down to ... do we make an offer they cant match...

Sorry about not replying earlier but this my fear about future picks, as you said it becomes inflationary. All of a sudden a lower team who wants to add some cream to help push them up the ladder has to sell a little more of the farm than before. Like I said this makes me uneasy.

 

[thegerman]

Sorry about not replying earlier but this my fear about future picks, as you said it becomes inflationary. All of a sudden a lower team who wants to add some cream to help push them up the ladder has to sell a little more of the farm than before. Like I said this makes me uneasy.

That's if they didn't add the protection.

In the pro U.S. leagues they generally have protected future picks, I.e. not in the top 5. Especially the NBA where a lottery determines the first round.

Protecting the pick mitigates the issue you're raising. Though would this be part of the AFL system, who knows

 

[catempire]

Trading future picks is like credit cards in concept. Used responsibly, they will help bring forward large purchases. In the wrong hands, things can quickly get out of hand and end up with the user paying back the debt for a long time.

I think we will see some carnage along the way but it will be an overall positive development.

 

[manboob]

Trading future picks is like credit cards in concept. Used responsibly, they will help bring forward large purchases. In the wrong hands, things can quickly get out of hand and end up with the user paying back the debt for a long time.

I think we will see some carnage along the way but it will be an overall positive development.

It's only a year as well. So some clubs will do something stupid but it won't be irreparable.

 

[Turbocat]

That's if they didn't add the protection.

In the pro U.S. leagues they generally have protected future picks, I.e. not in the top 5. Especially the NBA where a lottery determines the first round.

Protecting the pick mitigates the issue you're raising. Though would this be part of the AFL system, who knows

They has been talk of protection but I have no idea of the details. Not sure I follow how you can protect its...for eg.

Geelong offer their R1 2016 for Troy Menzel but its protected at P6. Geelong say we haven't been down that low for decades. Done done and guess what Geelong finish last. So what happens to the pick? Geelong get it back and keep Menzel?

 

[Turbocat]

Trading future picks is like credit cards in concept. Used responsibly, they will help bring forward large purchases. In the wrong hands, things can quickly get out of hand and end up with the user paying back the debt for a long time.

I think we will see some carnage along the way but it will be an overall positive development.

So in other words , just like credit cards/banks etc... the person/team that really doesn't need credit will have no trouble getting it, pays it off in a controlled manor ... and the person/team living on the edge will end up selling their Stratocaster for 50 bucks at Cash Convertors.

 

[catempire]

So in other words , just like credit cards/banks etc... the person/team that really doesn't need credit will have no trouble getting it, pays it off in a controlled manor ... and the person/team living on the edge will end up selling their Stratocaster for $50 bucks at Cash Convertors.

Haha. It could well be like that!

 

[manboob]

oh dear

 

[Art Vandelay_]

oh dear

Wonder which crows poster paid for that

 

[Turbocat]

oh dear

Have they done the front page of THEIR addy yet.?

 

[Boxhead_31]

oh dear

Is that worse than the Addy begging Gary not to go?

 

[manboob]

It's pretty close!

 

[thegerman]

They has been talk of protection but I have no idea of the details. Not sure I follow how you can protect its...for eg.

Geelong offer their R1 2016 for Troy Menzel but its protected at P6. Geelong say we haven't been down that low for decades. Done done and guess what Geelong finish last. So what happens to the pick? Geelong get it back and keep Menzel?

I think they must provide one somehow, whether that be through trade, or another future pick.

I'll research a bit.

 

[FredLeDeux]

I think they must provide one somehow, whether that be through trade, or another future pick.

I'll research a bit.

It hasn't been announced yet, all the detail is still to be explained the clubs.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-commission-trading-future-draft-picks-20150728-gimgzk.htmlhttp://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-commission-trading-future-draft-picks-20150728-gimgzk.html

 

[thegerman]

It hasn't been announced yet, all the detail is still to be explained the clubs.
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-commission-trading-future-draft-picks-20150728-gimgzk.htmlhttp://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-commission-trading-future-draft-picks-20150728-gimgzk.html

Oh I mean in the U.S. I think the rules will be based around what they have, as it seems the AFL just love to follow the NFL & NBA

 

[thegerman]

They has been talk of protection but I have no idea of the details. Not sure I follow how you can protect its...for eg.

Geelong offer their R1 2016 for Troy Menzel but its protected at P6. Geelong say we haven't been down that low for decades. Done done and guess what Geelong finish last. So what happens to the pick? Geelong get it back and keep Menzel?

Ok, protection lasts the first year in general, but unprotected the following year. So you may have a protected pick next year, and if it falls within this protected area, the future first round pick is activated.

Some teams have double future lottery protection rights, but that's rare

 

[FredLeDeux]

Oh I mean in the U.S. I think the rules will be based around what they have, as it seems the AFL just love to follow the NFL & NBA

Sorry.

 

[thegerman]

Sorry.

No probs, I wasn't very clear.

It will be interesting to see what the rules will be. It can get a little messy in the nba.

 

[FredLeDeux]

No probs, I wasn't very clear.

It will be interesting to see what the rules will be. It can get a little messy in the nba.

I've no doubt that the list managers will be all over them pretty quickly.
But I do look forward to the journos' "explanations".

 

[FullBack30]

This was on the AFL site

Patrick Dangerfield, Adelaide, restricted free agent
Despite the best efforts of most Victorian clubs, this year's biggest free agency fish will either stay at Adelaide or move to Geelong to be closer to his family home at nearby Moggs Creek. We expect the two-time All Australian to accept an offer from the Cats of about $800,000 a season over five years. We don't think the Crows will stand in his way by matching the offer.

 

[FredLeDeux]

This was on the AFL site

Patrick Dangerfield, Adelaide, restricted free agent
Despite the best efforts of most Victorian clubs, this year's biggest free agency fish will either stay at Adelaide or move to Geelong to be closer to his family home at nearby Moggs Creek. We expect the two-time All Australian to accept an offer from the Cats of about $800,000 a season over five years. We don't think the Crows will stand in his way by matching the offer.

I like His Royal Highness King Nick Bowen using the royal "We".

 

[thegerman]

This was on the AFL site

Patrick Dangerfield, Adelaide, restricted free agent
Despite the best efforts of most Victorian clubs, this year's biggest free agency fish will either stay at Adelaide or move to Geelong to be closer to his family home at nearby Moggs Creek. We expect the two-time All Australian to accept an offer from the Cats of about $800,000 a season over five years. We don't think the Crows will stand in his way by matching the offer.

Now should 'we' post this on the crows board like they do ours?

 

[Strangled Cat]

If we end up trading our 'future' first round draft pick as well as our 2015 first round draft pick to Adelaide in order to secure Danger after they match, you'll know that the timing of this introduction of trading future picks is no coincidence.