The VFL team does not include AFL listed or rookie-listed players. You were beaten fair and square.

Based on those mentioned and % of population it looks like the NT is miles in front given we have less than 2% of the population of Australia.........:D

I admit I went off the handle on that post but when someone calls me or anyone who lives in my city a moron will cop it from me here.

I take back my bagging of the newer state competition but I reacted to your hateful crap because you always give all the other states a bad name and never give credit where it is due.

As for the SANFL creating a country wide competition, as much as a lot of people in WA, NSW or QLD would have liked that, it would not have happened... in fact you should be thanking West Coast and Brisbane. They saved the VFL from probable financial ruin did they not? The inclusion of SA teams was inevitable. Live with it.

I don't think the VFA/VFL or football in Victoria has lost it's identity... I think that the VFA just took a gigantic step by renaming itself after its predecessor... an evolution if you will.

People just seemed to ignore that evolution and keep to the AFL but maybe if some people went down to a local game, they could appreciate this evolution. Even if they adopted their AFL clubs' VFL aligned club as their second team when their main team was out of the state, people may just flock to VFL games. The inclusion of Tasmania as well, not only saved Tasmanian footy but further evolved the comp.

If the AFL clubs publicised their VFL club more.... a VFL v. SANFL game at Optus Oval or even TEAC Oval would be more possible.

That's my rant... for now.

As for you footyman, and anyone else who thinks like him, get some appreciation for the rest of Australia and their role in sport instead of glorifying yourselves all the time.

Did I say we weren't beaten fair and square?

But last I heard from the VFL they were going to select whoever they wanted regardless.

Incorrect. Last Year and 2001 VFL side aganist the SANFL did include rookie listed players. I know this becuase last year Rod Trengenza who was on North Melbourne Rookie list in 2002 and played for North Melbourne VFL side Murray Kangaroos played for the VFL side and funny now this year is playing for South Adelaide in in the SANFL. In 2001 David Teague was on North Melbourne rookie list in 2001 and also playing for the Murray Kangaroos played for the VFL against SANFL and after that game was promoted to the AFL to North Melbourne has teaguey was of the VFL best player in the 2001 game. I am not sure if the SANFL picks rookie listed players of Adelaide and Port Adeliade. I am also not sure if rookie players will be contiuning to pick in the VFL State team for next year, the VFL might have made a rule change. rookie list players in there side. this has been changed

Geez, they (SAlians and WAlians) lose the argument and not a peep...

BTW How many Olympics or Commonwealth Games have Adelaide or Perth hosted recently??? ***** sorry, getting sucked into the argument, listen to Jars everyone, WAFL, SANFL and VFL all have their own qualities and that's that.

Time to bump this thread methinks.

Inferiority complex coming to the fore again, tige19? :o

2003 Results:

NSL (final position): WA: 1st, Vic: 5th

NBL (final position): WA: 2nd, Vic: 10th

Cricket Pura Cup (2003 head to head record): WA: 3, Vic: 0 (WA made the final, Vic didn't)

AFL (highest positioned side): WA: 2nd, Vic: 6th


The stats speak for themselves, tige19. A complete dominance from the WA teams despite Victoria having more clubs in the NSL and AFL and having a much greater population.

Perhaps you'd like to get back to me when you can think of a sport that Victoria has outperformed Western Australia in this year. :D

Cheers.

Chris Oliver was the ruckman too

FYI, Perth has hosted a Commonwealth Games.

Im not saying the WA has not had some great sporting teams because everyone knows you guys dominated the soccer (half the team was not actually born or raised in WA though) we also know use had the Basketball team (again most of the team is either American or from the Eastern states) plus you always provide a very competitive and strong cricket team, which you can actually claim to be self produced.
All this has happend in the past 3 or 4 months im talking about the history of a state as a whole now if you can show me the many ways which WA out perform Victoria over many years sporting wise ill look at things in a different way, but you will not be able to do this as WA have never been such a dominate Sporting state as what Victoria is and has been.

cheers

So what? Rookie listed players are, by definition not AFL listed players (not deemed to be good enough this year). They have to play somewhere and deserve to represent the VFL if selected

Couldnt be bothered checking the scores - you were pumped.

Nobody on AFL senior list plays VFL rep footy either. That was my point. Why don't YOU check YOUR facts?

rookie listed players seem to be good enough during the year when they are promoted off the rookie list to the seniors list. There have been a numbers of rookie players promoted to the senior list over the years.