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With all of the VICBias, it'd be nice if St Kilda, North or the Dogs could ever play a final at their home ground.

I don't get Cody and why he's so popular, I find him boring. Having said that, I found both nights to be really entertaining, Cena and Undertaker appearing was great.

Anyone who doesn't think that was holding the ball is clueless.

Typical of Draper, averages two marks a game for his career. Can't mark or kick.

First time an Essendon player has been within 30 metres of Rozee.

I know he dropped a sitter, but Georgiades out bodied Cox so easily.

71-31 inside fifties is insane. Brisbane came in struggling and down on confidence and had the game won in 20 minutes.

Draper is a terrible mark for a ruckman.

Martin won't want to see that marking effort again - lowered his eyes.

How bad would the tackling be without the Essendon edge?

If that's a free kick every ruck contest is a free kick.

I hope Pink can get his break even of -32, looking dicey

And always goes when it's his turn.

To slow to get any separation or time to use it properly now Sidebottom.

Great commentary from Selwood congratulating Schultz on his first Collingwood goal, after kicking two last week.

One of these guys who is "fearless" took short steps multiple times in a prelim final.

Is the source who is the person who would be working on Marra's deal the same one who had Lobb leaving this offseason?

English wasn't great after a heavily interrupted pre-season, but talking of dropping him after 2 practice games is absolutely ridiculous.

At the moment you'd have to take Cripps with Oliver off the rails. But hard to get out of my mind Cripps taking short steps a couple of times in a prelim final.

Team name - Kingsley Hunter FC

With the talent we have at our disposal we won't win any major tournaments regardless of who the manager is. Arnold to me seems like a flog, but making the last 16 of the World Cup with the talent we had at our disposal was arguably the greatest achievement in Australian football history...

It's a pity the ball will never reach our forward line.

We've had one - Bernie Collins, though he didn't play a senior game.

Great post and not harsh at all, to go from 7-3 and a kick away from winning a final to not winning a game is terrible. Though if you dare say that things aren't 100% fantastic in any of the Dogs AFLW groups on Facebook it's like you killed Santa.

Can we safely assume the source on Lobb wanting to be traded that generated pages and pages of criticising the club was wrong?

Is this the same Kane Cornes that said we should trade Jamarra for Denver Grainger-Barras? That guys criticising list management decisions?

What's the source of the Lobb apparently moving on info? Haven't seen it reported anywhere.

Remember when North fans on here used to brag about how they never bottom out?